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I think every SG game is going to be followed by a constant patter of Gang War style books. Hopefully they'll release them with the warhounds and reavers this year.
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moths posted:I dug out the resin FW Warhounds that I boxed a decade ago for being "too big for Epic." These should be perfect for AT, since they originally came on 60mm bases. I think. Has anyone seen the new Warhound in person? I'm pretty sure the FW Warhounds are still going to be too small, considering the Warlord is the size of the old Imperator. As for Legio specific rules, I think they are just straight up generic Titan rules, not differing in terms of Legions, especially since this is during the HH, and there wasn't much variation between equipment. I think, at best, we'll see equipment variants and named Titans like Dies Irae and the Banelord.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I'm pretty sure the FW Warhounds are still going to be too small, considering the Warlord is the size of the old Imperator. The video I linked goes over the legio rules, they most definitely do have specific changes. Tempestus get to do an orbital insertion of one titan, etc.
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Oh ok, so like specific tactics then. I thought Moths was talking about something like every legion has specific rules regarding their Titans.
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That video TTerrible linked is definitely worthwhile. I usually hate YouTube reviews, but this one is good.berzerkmonkey posted:I'm pretty sure the FW Warhounds are still going to be too small, considering the Warlord is the size of the old Imperator. I'm painting mine up now and this is looking more like the situation. I've since found this size comparison, and they should be slightly taller than an old Reavers:  The FW Warhound is slightly smaller than the old Reaver, so it'll be off but not as off as the old metal hounds.  E: they actually posed the new one with its legs extended, so this is all speculation.
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moths posted:I'm painting mine up now and this is looking more like the situation. I've since found this size comparison, and they should be slightly taller than an old Reavers:
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Aug 12, 2018 15:51
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Schadenboner posted:Two questions about chaos cults in Necromunda: Be aware that Chaos Cults for Necro aren't really any good outside of a campaign. Their special rules regarding rituals only really matter in campaign mode.
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Genghis Cohen posted:It's a great game! Wish I had more opportunities to play it. Haven't bought any of the new models yet but definitely will at some point. Looking forward to reading Gang War 4 later this week. They just keep adding more and more cool stuff to the game. Yeah, I never played the original back in the day, so I really wanted to get in on the new version. I'm glad to see they are really expanding upon it too, with more gangs and additional rules and scenarios.
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dishwasherlove posted:AT is AU$490, which is amazing. 
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Aug 13, 2018 05:37
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Apropos of nothing - and for no good reason - I built a Krieg Venator team on YakTribe. May it one day give me the inspiration to buy some resin.
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JcDent posted:Apropos of nothing - and for no good reason - I built a Krieg Venator team on YakTribe. May it one day give me the inspiration to buy some resin. If you’re going to name someone Jurgen you need to be able to afford the meltagun for him. 
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berzerkmonkey posted:March 2018 WD for GSC; April 2018 for cultists. AFAIK, those rules are it, at least until GW decides to collate everything into a single volume and maybe mod them a bit. Unless they come out with better chaos cultists though, I don't see that happening. I think it was more of a "hey - we can shoehorn these guys into the game!" type of thing. Neither gang was ever "official" for the original NM, and these being WD exclusives means they aren't entirely official either. I know this is from a few days ago but the community site has added the GSC Necromunda rules as a free download. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/13/13th-aug-genestealer-cults-in-necromunda-freefw-homepage-post-3/
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The Necromunda Generals which get stared at The Other Place keep dropping off page 10 with like 30 posts. It's really amazing how much oxygen KT seems to have taken out of the Necromunda fire and how quickly.
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Schadenboner posted:The Necromunda Generals which get stared at The Other Place keep dropping off page 10 with like 30 posts. KT is self contained. NM has been out for a year and still doesn't have all of the factions or rules out. The slow dribble has pissed a lot of people off, and interest in the game is floundering. GW really dropped the ball on both NM and BB, and pretty much ensured people lost interest really quickly.
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Aug 16, 2018 16:56
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Necromunda coming out piecemeal is basically why Kickstarter is the new default for releasing a miniatures game. A company doesn't want to assume the risk of committing all their resources, so they either crowdfund it or crawl out the releases.
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berzerkmonkey posted:KT is self contained. NM has been out for a year and still doesn't have all of the factions or rules out. The slow dribble has pissed a lot of people off, and interest in the game is floundering. GW really dropped the ball on both NM and BB, and pretty much ensured people lost interest really quickly. I've just started running the BB league at my club, and releasing rules through Spike! has been really loving annoying - to the extent that I've not included them because it means some teams have even more of an advantage than others.
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Aug 16, 2018 17:26
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berzerkmonkey posted:KT is self contained. NM has been out for a year and still doesn't have all of the factions or rules out. The slow dribble has pissed a lot of people off, and interest in the game is floundering. GW really dropped the ball on both NM and BB, and pretty much ensured people lost interest really quickly. Hmm, I'm the opposite, the slow burn of releases has kept me consistently enthused. OTOH, I don't have anyone to play Necromunda with on a regular basis, so this enthusiasm is most theoretical . . . But hey, I've got Gang War 4 and it's awesome! I really would like to convert up some House Brutes (a weapon servitor for Orlocks would be easy enough from AdMech 40k Breachers and a spare heavy bolter model; or an AoS Slaughterpriest for a Goliath Berserker)
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Rolling out all of the gangs at the start would have been a winning move for GW, but GW. KT doesn't have the same hilarious campaign draw to me.
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There should have been two more gangs/teams available day 1 for both Necromunda & Blood Bowl. I understand why that didn't happen, especially in the case of Blood Bowl where they were testing the waters, but good god it would have made things better. At the absolute very least the team expansions/weapon kits should have been ready. That we have only just a few days ago got the Human team expansion is completely unacceptable. Absolutely ludicrous mismanagement by FW.
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whats blood bowls release schedule like? the limited poses piss me off but the minis, dice, and boards are cool, they just dont have any of the teams i want to play out yet. e: goddamn only 9 teams in 2 years? arent there like over 20? BIG MEATY SHITS fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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moths posted:Necromunda coming out piecemeal is basically why Kickstarter is the new default for releasing a miniatures game. Eh, KS has its own serious downsides for the market. Chief among them is, if most people that are interested back the project, what point is there for a LGS to stock the stuff on their shelves? And if they don’t stock the stuff what chance is there for new blood to enter the game? Mantis has been getting really hurt by store owner apathy to their products. I think the best tactic is the middle ground approach that Shadespire and Killteam are currently doing. A piecemeal release schedule but launching with a main box and a few additional factions either at release or shortly thereafter.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:whats blood bowls release schedule like? the limited poses piss me off but the minis, dice, and boards are cool, they just dont have any of the teams i want to play out yet. They do quarterly releases for both Blood Bowl and Necromunda.
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Staggered releases are absolutely an ok thing to do, but in the case of NM and BB, people know what the future releases are because of the previous version of the game and want access to their faction. That being said, the too-slow release model is insane - Dark Elf players should never have been forced to wait TWO YEARS to be able to get into the game. At least NM is going a little quicker, but Delaque will still be out a year after the core release (and never mind the fact that you need to buy the core box in order to play the game and STILL can't purchase the rulebook separately, or have to (as of this date) purchase $120 in additional rules to stay current. I have no problem with a company charging for supplemental materials in an effort to keep a game alive, but at this point, if you want to play NM with a gang other than Escher or Goliath, it will cost you upwards of $290, not counting terrain and gang cards, and that's just insane. And people were complaining about the cost of AT... berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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To be fair to GW, the Specialist Games team don't have a lot of budget or staff for what they're doing and are likely cranking out stuff as fast as they can. Plastic moulds take a while to tool and the success of BB (and to a lesser extent NM) took them by surprise so they're still trying to gear up to that level. NM really needs a consolidated rules release though, the single gang per supplement thing is ridiculous.
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They also put the old metal blood bowl teams out for sale every now and then and the team rules have been out for a while so it's not like people literally can't play. I do wish teams would come out more quickly, but the only huge ones left IMO are Lizardmen, Wood Elves and one of the death teams. Everything else is pretty niche.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:They also put the old metal blood bowl teams out for sale every now and then and the team rules have been out for a while so it's not like people literally can't play. I do wish teams would come out more quickly, but the only huge ones left IMO are Lizardmen, Wood Elves and one of the death teams. Everything else is pretty niche. The bigger issue here is that people already have a favorite team/gang based on past experience, and don't have access. Because of that, they become disillusioned and walk away - there are too many other games and hobbies competing for attention nowadays.
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yeah i actually want to give gw my money for bb but wont until they have available the poo poo i want to play with prob is in the past theyve interpreted this as people not wanting to buy specialist games and shutting the doors on them early
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What "should" a marine scout look like, Necromunda-wise?
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Luckily there are tons of alternate Blood Bowl teams available to anyone who has even a cursory ability to use the internet search provider of choice. Perhaps not the best thing for GW, but 
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Schadenboner posted:What "should" a marine scout look like, Necromunda-wise? Invisible and overpowering. Like the Predator.
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goatface posted:Invisible and ovipositing. Like the Alien.
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You have genestealers for that. Or a lictor if you're really trying to kill everybody.
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"Dome-Runner" from GW3 is the (hopefully) less-racist re-cast of Ratskins? Also, the hired cook is a S2 which means Ratling?
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Now to just find some people to actually play with.
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Yeast posted:Now to just find some people to actually play with. The eternal struggle.
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Yeast posted:Now to just find some people to actually play with. Where do you live? Not a serial killer, just asking.
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GW surprised by BB’s success? What, the game that was entirely supported by the community when GW abandoned it, still has packed out events JUST FOR THAT GAME, sustained webstores and entire mini companies, and always has a new team available on Kickstarter? And it was a surprise that game was a success?
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glitchkrieg posted:GW surprised by BB’s success? "We were surprised" is a lot easier to say than "We are poorly managed and couldn't find our asses if they were handed to us."
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