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keylez
Dec 15, 2012

So, my claim went from prepare for decisioning, to review of evidence...because my military medical records were scanned sideways and no one knows how to rotate a document. Anyway...

I got the results of my C&P exam, and my intution was correct--this examiner was not paying attention to me and did not accurately note the things I've discussed. In fact, theres a traumatic event I mentioned that was not included in the notes, and the other situation I mentioned is missing major details.

For godsakes, she even wrote down my place of employment completely wrong. What the hell is "ben mole"?

Judging by these results, its not looking too good, she checked a box in regards to my diagnosis:

"mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication."

Toward the end, they also noted the following that I have other symptoms attributable to mental disorders that aren't listed above. (for the record, i filed for depression and anxiety)

Judging by the total inaccuracy of this appointment, and in an effort to get in front of anything regarding this claim, can I proactively do another C&P exam? Am I jumping the gun here.

keylez fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 12, 2018

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Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Am I correct that 100% GI Bill will cover 100% of tuition of an MBA program as long as it's at a public University? I ask because they're expensive though I believe the tuition cap is only for private and foreign schools.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

keylez posted:

So, my claim went from prepare for decisioning, to review of evidence...because my military medical records were scanned sideways and no one knows how to rotate a document. Anyway...

I got the results of my C&P exam, and my intution was correct--this examiner was not paying attention to me and did not accurately note the things I've discussed. In fact, theres a traumatic event I mentioned that was not included in the notes, and the other situation I mentioned is missing major details.

For godsakes, she even wrote down my place of employment completely wrong. What the hell is "ben mole"?

Judging by these results, its not looking too good, she checked a box in regards to my diagnosis:

"mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication."

Toward the end, they also noted the following that I have other symptoms attributable to mental disorders that aren't listed above. (for the record, i filed for depression and anxiety)

Judging by the total inaccuracy of this appointment, and in an effort to get in front of anything regarding this claim, can I proactively do another C&P exam? Am I jumping the gun here.

Welcome to appeals hell.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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keylez posted:

So, my claim went from prepare for decisioning, to review of evidence...because my military medical records were scanned sideways and no one knows how to rotate a document. Anyway...

I got the results of my C&P exam, and my intution was correct--this examiner was not paying attention to me and did not accurately note the things I've discussed. In fact, theres a traumatic event I mentioned that was not included in the notes, and the other situation I mentioned is missing major details.

For godsakes, she even wrote down my place of employment completely wrong. What the hell is "ben mole"?

Judging by these results, its not looking too good, she checked a box in regards to my diagnosis:

"mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication."

Toward the end, they also noted the following that I have other symptoms attributable to mental disorders that aren't listed above. (for the record, i filed for depression and anxiety)

Judging by the total inaccuracy of this appointment, and in an effort to get in front of anything regarding this claim, can I proactively do another C&P exam? Am I jumping the gun here.

Nothing that you need to do proactively. Wait until you get your decision. You'll be rated at something, and that's when you prepare your Notice of Disagreement. This is another part where a VSO comes in handy. Like I said before, the decision paperwork will explain why you are rated at whatever % and what would qualify you for the higher one. If they're wrong, include documentation that says so. Are you seeing the VA for mental health? If not, be ready to submit additional paperwork from your doctor. If so, just ask your mental health people to include in their notes that you suffer from x, y, and z that causes issue a, b, and c with similar wording to what the VA said would cause an increase.

Either way, you include your medical records (or see VA MH appt from date-date I usually include hard copies anyways) and a detailed reason of why they were wrong in the NoD. It'll go to someone who has immediate authority to correct. They'll likely give you a phone call. They may schedule a new C&P and they may just say "you're right here's the correct %."

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Mustang posted:

Am I correct that 100% GI Bill will cover 100% of tuition of an MBA program as long as it's at a public University? I ask because they're expensive though I believe the tuition cap is only for private and foreign schools.

Yes. You can get good coverage at private schools, too, with yellow ribbon and other grants.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I'm sure it's been posted somewhere in the thread but here's federal regulations on what's supposed to happen and percentages and poo poo

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=3dddce84474966674a408fb61db5af5e&node=38:1.0.1.1.5&rgn=div5

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Or hire a lawyer. Thats what Im doing and its great so far. I had my NoD sitting at the VA for months waiting to be filed until I hired him.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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You don't have to hire a lawyer yet. Don't jump the gun. Let's get the decision in first. You don't need a lawyer until you get to court.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



So glad my rating took like 2 months and way higher than I ever expected. Dealing with the appeals process sounds awful.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Figured I'd share this since I didn't know about it until a few months ago: https://www.vettix.org

I've gotten a few events from them so far, and today I just got 4 $100+ tickets to Foo Fighters at Wrigley Field for $20 in processing fees + a donation to the organization.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
I've used them a fair bit. Good organization.

all apologies
May 13, 2008

woah
Does anyone know if I get remarried after being put on PDRL (retired medically for good) does my new wife have access to tricare?

Wasnt sure, got divorced, removed her from DEERS. Hoping my new one is covered due to high risk pregnancy. Scary some and hoping for a yes on this.




Edit - Ex has been removed for years, got re-married....wondering if she gets Tricare upon marriage since im already out and retired?

all apologies fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 28, 2018

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

all apologies posted:

Does anyone know if I get remarried after being put on PDRL (retired medically for good) does my new wife have access to tricare?

Wasnt sure, got divorced, removed her from DEERS. Hoping my new one is covered due to high risk pregnancy. Scary some and hoping for a yes on this.




Edit - Ex has been removed for years, got re-married....wondering if she gets Tricare upon marriage since im already out and retired?

Yes she’s eligible for TRICARE.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Smoke Crack posted:

Good to see some of you fuckers are still around :911:

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
So I'm officially out as of today. I'm waiting on stuff from the VA for my school, but what else should I do now? I'm guessing some medical stuff, but I have no idea how that works.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Are younsatisfied with your disability rating? If not, its significantly harder to get a claim after one year for anything service connected.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Soulex posted:

Are younsatisfied with your disability rating? If not, its significantly harder to get a claim after one year for anything service connected.

I don't have one from the army as far as I can tell. When I did my exit physical the dude was kind of in a hurry and I don't have whatever paperwork they did because they wouldn't make copies of it for me there. But there's definitely things wrong with my body that weren't before, and I've got documentation on that, not the least of which is nerve damage from a surgery last month that may or may not fix itself.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Disability rating has nothing to do with your exit physical. It's an entirely separate process and you need to get it done ASAP. Find a local VSO (I used DAV) and they will hook you up with a rep that specializes in the process.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
Also any claims made after 1 year don't get Backpaid to your date of separation so get all that poo poo down asap

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.

A Bad Poster posted:

So I'm officially out as of today. I'm waiting on stuff from the VA for my school, but what else should I do now? I'm guessing some medical stuff, but I have no idea how that works.

Did you make copies of your medical and dental record?

I can't speak much for medical, but if you had any dental work that still needs completed, you have 180 days to check into the VA and get it at no cost. If you didn't make copies of your dental record, still go and bring your DD-214. Even if the box is checked that dental is complete, you can still be seen. It's really important to make sure your dental is all done and not on your dime because dental is expensive, and you may go for some time without dental insurance. Hell, even with dental insurance, it's still expensive. After 180 days you are not going to get any dental benefits at the VA unless you are 100% disabled or you have a dental disability. And go now, because at my VA, dental is extremely busy open to close every day. This VA sees more patients than any other department, and unlike some VAs, we have every specialty in house.

As far as medical goes, you will have some benefits but you'll need to go figure out what that is. I don't have a disability rating but I get healthcare at the VA because I applied for benefits after husband and I were unemployed for 1 year and was considered low income (unemployment and GI Bill income didn't count). It's a program that once you're in, you're in for life. We have insurance now but the mental health insurance part of it isn't fantastic, so I continue to go to the VA for mental health because it only costs about $15 a visit plus I think last I checked it was $15 for a 30 day prescription.

Sarah fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Aug 4, 2018

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Any pitfalls you've found in using VA and private insurance concurrently?

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

vulturesrow posted:

Any pitfalls you've found in using VA and private insurance concurrently?

The VA can and will bill your private insurance.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.
They definitely do bill private insurance for what they can. I have moved away from using them for anything but mental health because I get better care through my insurance and picking my own doctor. Since I became a VA employee, I am no longer treated as a veteran at my own appointments. They treat you like some rear end in a top hat off the street wasting their time. Except mental health of course, my psychiatrist is the most amazing caring person I've ever seen at the VA.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Anyone have any two cents?

I got some botched dental work while AD, and went under periodontal care as a result my last few years in.

VA disability claims that it wasn't service related.

Is medical malpractice not covered under VA disability? I'll require care and/or surgery for the rest of my life now, and am paying out of pocket for extra dental costs now.

I'm planning on appealing the decision, just trying to get more informed on the process. Or if dental negligence isn't covered, I should find that out too....

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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You cannot sue the military for malpractice, but if they hosed up your teeth just appeal and include your dental records and a statement explaining it. Your VSO can give you more info. If you don’t have one yet, get one.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.

xaarman posted:

Anyone have any two cents?

I got some botched dental work while AD, and went under periodontal care as a result my last few years in.

VA disability claims that it wasn't service related.

Is medical malpractice not covered under VA disability? I'll require care and/or surgery for the rest of my life now, and am paying out of pocket for extra dental costs now.

I'm planning on appealing the decision, just trying to get more informed on the process. Or if dental negligence isn't covered, I should find that out too....

Dental is really tricky to get a service connection for. Did you make copies of your dental records? Do you have your x-rays? If you did, then like Mr Nice said, you need to speak to someone at your local VSO to start an appeal. If you didn't, you need to request your records. I am not sure if you can request them to make copies of your x-rays or if they will send you the original x-rays. Depending on what happened to you, the x-rays will go a long way in telling the story for you (as opposed to maybe a dentist writing up some BS to cover his/her rear end). If you already have copies of your x-rays from your AD record, get copies of them made (do not give the VA the original x-rays!!). Especially if your periodontal care includes bone loss... those previous x-rays where you had healthy normal bone prior to the bad treatment will be great for an appeal.

VA Dental care is extremely difficult to obtain. It's by far the busiest department at my VA. Despite the insane eligibility requirements, they see the highest volume of patients and work the longest hours. The knee jerk reaction for anyone not rated 100% is probably no, in hopes they accept it and go away.

Good luck.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
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Lipstick Apathy
They ripped out all my wisdom teeth in basic and I've had TMJ ever since, I've had to pay for a lot of bite corrections to try to alleviate it. My dentist agrees it is probably from the wisdom extractions if it started then, but he's not willing to put that in writing so I can try to get on VA Dental. Not sure why he's hesitant when I pressed him several times, the last time he referred me to a TMJ specialist to get it in writing from them instead, but they're in the middle of nowhere so I haven't gotten a chance.

Edit: If you got your wisdoms out in basic you could try the same angle for dental though.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
All,

Thanks for the replies... I don't want to sue anybody, and my VA disability rating came back largely in my favor, except for this dental issue which they denied because they claim it wasn't service related.

So I'm wondering if I should proceed with the appeal, but only if I have the (legal) justification to do so. I guess what I'm asking, and if anyone has any references, is substandard medical work grounds for a VA disability rating?

I never got a good feeling from the Contract dentist, so I'm trying to figure out if it was a personality conflict or he was just short because he figured it was going to be a waste of everyone's time.

xaarman fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 11, 2018

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
A dude that I know got his vasectomy hosed up by army medical, left him in crippling pain and in need of constant treatment. Ended up walking with a cane and sucking on fentanyl lolipops. They called his nuts service related and rated him on it so I'm pretty sure they should at the very least rate you 0% for yours so you get medical care for it.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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xaarman posted:

All,

Thanks for the replies... I don't want to sue anybody, and my VA disability rating came back largely in my favor, except for this dental issue which they denied because they claim it wasn't service related.

So I'm wondering if I should proceed with the appeal, but only if I have the (legal) justification to do so. I guess what I'm asking, and if anyone has any references, is substandard medical work grounds for a VA disability rating?

I never got a good feeling from the Contract dentist, so I'm trying to figure out if it was a personality conflict or he was just short because he figured it was going to be a waste of everyone's time.

A VSO will be able to help you out with your appeal. You absolutely 100% should appeal. You don't have to get super duper into specifics, but just detail why you think your dental condition should be service connected (it should). I'm looking at the VASRD and teeth typically cannot be rated unless they're lost to accident, injury, or specific disease (not just natural causes/neglect/age). Your teeth were injured on duty due to negligence caused by a military dentist. That's ratable. Note that you'll probably be rated at 0% at best because your teeth can likely be replaced by fakes, but this may open up avenues of correction. If you have teeth missing that cannot be replaced, that rating can be increased depending on where the teeth are and how many are missing.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Ha! I definitely have all my teeth... I'll take that over a monthly check and not having my teeth. PM incoming if you don't mind.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

not caring here posted:

A dude that I know got his vasectomy hosed up by army medical, left him in crippling pain and in need of constant treatment. Ended up walking with a cane and sucking on fentanyl lolipops. They called his nuts service related and rated him on it so I'm pretty sure they should at the very least rate you 0% for yours so you get medical care for it.

This is what they did for me. I have several issues at 0%

My dental is ok because i was diagnosed with bruxism.

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001
Dental issues are a weird exception. Treatable, replaceable, or carious teeth are not considered a disability unless it involves loss of the underlying bone structure such as to prevent replacement. Loss of teeth due to things like gingivitis or tooth decay are generally not service connectable unless you have something like osteomyelitis which leads to the loss of bone.

Generally it's not worth it to even claim dental issues. At the most you might end up with having them service connected for treatment purposes only. i.e. no money for them, but those teeth can get fixed or removed by VA.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.

cult_hero posted:

Dental issues are a weird exception. Treatable, replaceable, or carious teeth are not considered a disability unless it involves loss of the underlying bone structure such as to prevent replacement. Loss of teeth due to things like gingivitis or tooth decay are generally not service connectable unless you have something like osteomyelitis which leads to the loss of bone.

Generally it's not worth it to even claim dental issues. At the most you might end up with having them service connected for treatment purposes only. i.e. no money for them, but those teeth can get fixed or removed by VA.

This is why you take your x-rays with you with you leave active duty. I always told anyone separating to make copies of their records and hold on to their xrays. Most of them didn't even consider they should copy their dental records, they only thought about medical.

Any poor treatment that resulted in bone loss will 100% be noticeable in the timeline series of xrays.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Xaarman isn’t looking for compensation, but he should be at least service connected with a 0% because military dentists hosed him up.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Xaarman isn’t looking for compensation, but he should be at least service connected with a 0% because military dentists hosed him up.

Absolutely agree, but the VA is so stingy with dental that you really have to get all your poo poo together to get a dental disability rating of even 0%. Most people get into dental by way of having a total rating of 100%.

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
So I'm trying to get documents from VA.gov and it says incomplete information contained in our system call 1-800-827-1000 and option 7 with a reference code.

That number and option connects to the suicide prevention hotline...

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Cyks posted:

So I'm trying to get documents from VA.gov and it says incomplete information contained in our system call 1-800-827-1000 and option 7 with a reference code.

That number and option connects to the suicide prevention hotline...

:laffo: if true

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
I hereby apologize for anything bad I ever said about NMCI. The ebenefits site the most broke dick POS IT system I've ever dealt with. Trying to update dependent information and it keeps redirecting me to the DS login page even though I'm already loving logged on. And when you log in or doesn't redirect back to the page you came from. And gently caress calling them because literally every time I've done that I've found out after the fact that what they told me was dead loving wrong. Ugh.

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vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Any horror stories about appealing a rating and having it reduced? I realized that I misread my rating document and realized that I've of the items I claimed was deemed not service connected and it absolutely was. It's should have at least a 0. It's a mental health issue and it's become worse in the past few months which is what led me to discover this as I was trying to determine my options for treatment.

On that note, aren't I entitled to a year or something of free mental health care with the VA post retirement?

I'm going to talk with the VSO rep that prepared my claim but I want to see what the SA hivemind has to say as well.

e: To clarify one of my concerns here, I'm a little concerned because my understanding is that since I'm within 1 year of my decision the entire claim would have to be reviewed and not just this one particular rating. I'd hate to lose points off my overall rating because of this

vulturesrow fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Sep 18, 2018

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