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Sonic racing games are good. This I'm not looking forward to the new one, they took out both the all Stars and the transforming.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:31
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DLC Inc posted:Sonic games are incredibly badly designed games in general. Even the 2D games of old lured you into thinking you gotta go fast yet the game makes every conceivable effort to break your momentum or surprise you with bullshit spikes and traps. This was my complaint about Sonic ever since I was a kid, until like last year when I realized Policenaut posted:Going fast in Classic Sonic is the reward for having figured out the stage, so you know that the bumper is there or the monster drops down at this place and so on. Sonic games are literally designed to appeal to the same time of person that likes speedrunning. They're speedrunning games.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:42
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why is it so hard for Sega to make a 3D Sonic game? Just make Mario 64 or Crash Bandicoot, double the run speed, and put loops in it. Going fast in 3D is hard to control (all the cool stuff in that first level of Sonic Adventure is p much on rails) and it's probably a bummer to invest in high-quality geometry and textures just so players can see it in a blur as they zip past it.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:48
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Mister Facetious posted:Yeah, ignoring the truth has kinda been a running theme since 2017, let's just keep doing that. FTFY
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Aug 17, 2018 18:55
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Really enjoying ThisIsACoolGuy casually posting about how much fun they're having beating the two biggest sticking-point bosses in Hollow Knight, given complaint after complaint about those two exact bosses itt over the past few weeks. Traitor Lord will be his breaking point.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:57
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Reality Loser posted:https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1030492057792638976?s=19 The cannon doesn't even shoot and the background looks like GameCube up-rezzed in Dolphin smh
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Aug 17, 2018 19:00
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It’s possible the recoil sent the gun back into an upright position, but it does look like they just cheaped out on the animation.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:05
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https://twitter.com/WEEGEETHEGOD/status/1026169292637790209acksplode posted:Going fast in 3D is hard to control (all the cool stuff in that first level of Sonic Adventure is p much on rails) and it's probably a bummer to invest in high-quality geometry and textures just so players can see it in a blur as they zip past it. Yeah, I recall reading some time ago that it costs a very large sum of money to make just one Modern Sonic stage so that's why games like Unleashed had the Werehog eat up so much time. People said Day Sonic was the best part of Unleashed so Sega shrugged and went okay and made Colors which is like a 5 hour long game but it's all speedy platforming.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:13
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I just sold my used copy of Octopath Traveler for more than I paid for it brand new, lol. This is why I always get AAA games physical.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:24
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John Lee posted:This was my complaint about Sonic ever since I was a kid, until like last year when I realized That may be, but I was surprised even Sonic Mania retains the same design ethos of "let's maximize how much this will piss you off by putting a thing right here lol" because it's 2017 and you shouldn't have to rely on cheap "gotcha" moments as you're zipping along, though. It just happens sooooooo often. But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Sonic Advance was good! The physics of Sonic Advance actually made me feel like it was a platformer and not slippery and loose like the other games. The art style was really great, too.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:25
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Only good part about Sonic games are the tunes.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:33
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Frankston posted:I just sold my used copy of Octopath Traveler for more than I paid for it brand new, lol. This is why I always get AAA games physical. i obught destiny for ps3 for like £6 then sold it on for like £8. i basically got paid £2 to play that game and i still feel ripped off
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Aug 17, 2018 19:34
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It's almost like there are 700 pokemon now and animation costs money
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Aug 17, 2018 19:35
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too many games coming out and i am jobless
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Aug 17, 2018 19:37
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's almost like there are 700 pokemon now and animation costs money I don't care about that, it's still lame and looks lovely We're consumers not project managers E: also this lololol The Kins posted:Isn't Let's Go only using the original 151?
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Aug 17, 2018 19:37
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DLC Inc posted:That may be, but I was surprised even Sonic Mania retains the same design ethos of "let's maximize how much this will piss you off by putting a thing right here lol" because it's 2017 and you shouldn't have to rely on cheap "gotcha" moments as you're zipping along, though. It just happens sooooooo often. I felt like Mania was way better about this sort of thing overall. I tried playing Sonic 2 and after a point, it seemed like every single straightaway or slightly speedy section in that game had spikes or enemies in the way. Then again, I got really into Mania for a while and was actually learning the level layouts so maybe I just remember too many ways to avoid taking damage while going fast.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:37
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's almost like there are 700 pokemon now and animation costs money
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Aug 17, 2018 19:37
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There's no way it won't also include all of the rest of the pokemon in the game too so you can play with them once you beat the Elite 4.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:38
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Is Let's Go using the models from the last 3DS game? Weren't those super detailed so they could be reused?
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Aug 17, 2018 19:41
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Fair enough It still looks really bad and unappealing. Kinda like how some people think mhxx looks horrendous. I think it looks fine and there's REASONS as to why it looks the way it does, but I can see why it could and definitely will turn off a lot of people That said Pokemon will probably still sell just fine. The more they show though, the more i feel like it's not looking all that hot.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:41
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I'm glad there's a bet on what will break me in hollow knight. I'll make sure to do my best  /Also Let's Go is just a remake of yellow, there's no way in hell there's going to be the other 700 or whatever pokemon in it. It's just 151 as they said.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:42
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That's not a fair comparison. Pokemon Stadium was built around the idea of a 3D Poekmon game, Let's Go is built around the idea of a simple remake of those lovely old games that only had like 100 Pokemon and the only animation was twitching the picture slighlty
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Aug 17, 2018 19:43
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It's a shame that indie studio game freak doesn't have the resources to animate so many different creatures
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Aug 17, 2018 19:44
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Maybe there's an option to turn battle animations off hmm
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Aug 17, 2018 19:46
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Ignite Memories posted:It's a shame that indie studio game freak doesn't have the resources to animate so many different creatures The games always feel really cheap for how much money they make.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:47
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Guy Goodbody posted:That's not a fair comparison. Pokemon Stadium was built around the idea of a 3D Poekmon game, Let's Go is built around the idea of a simple remake of those lovely old games that only had like 100 Pokemon and the only animation was twitching the picture slighlty What gives you the impression that let's go isn't meant to be a 3D Pokemon game? Also we're talking about the 64 my dude...that console is over 20 years old. I'm not sure I buy your reasoning here
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Aug 17, 2018 19:47
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Or it kinda looked like a bug to me
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Aug 17, 2018 19:48
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I'm pretty sure those Double Kick animations are from the 3DS games too but it's still not the best comparison because there are a lot of properly animated moves in Pokemon, especially if the move is more unique to a single pokemon. If the attack is more generic and shared among more than a couple pokemon, you usually see a few different attack animations for a pokemon with a variety of background effects and colors added to them. I can't imagine the time and effort it would take to make 800+ pokemon all have fully unique animations for every single move they can learn, and you'll still have plenty of people who turn the animations off to speed up the gameplay. The Pikachu example here is definitely one of the lazier examples in the series, but it's probably not indicative of the whole game.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:48
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Being real it probably is. The pokemon usually either A) Just have their model hop and down while a attack is played and that's it B) They have a canned physical attack animation and a special attack animation that plays while a special effect appears near them and fires at the enemy. There's really no excuse aside from they're insanely lazy but judging by the rest of Let's Go it's really not a surprise. Only thing I can think of is that it's insanely low effort because if they make complex animations for the 151 in the game then "oh poo poo we have to do it for all the others next gen" so they didn't. ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Aug 17, 2018 19:54
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FPzero posted:There's no way it won't also include all of the rest of the pokemon in the game too so you can play with them once you beat the Elite 4. lol it'll include at most whatever is in pokemon go so far and nothing more
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Aug 17, 2018 19:57
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Blossom Tales is on sale. I wish Celeste was on sale.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:59
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Wendell posted:Blossom Tales is on sale. Celeste is easily worth full price
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Aug 17, 2018 20:02
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FPzero posted:There's no way it won't also include all of the rest of the pokemon in the game too so you can play with them once you beat the Elite 4. you don't know what you're talking about
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Aug 17, 2018 20:07
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Does anybody in this thread? Answer: Wa haa ha!
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Aug 17, 2018 20:13
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FPzero posted:There's no way it won't also include all of the rest of the pokemon in the game too so you can play with them once you beat the Elite 4. That's what 2019 Pokemon is going to be. let's go is just the tip.
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Aug 17, 2018 20:13
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Man gently caress hollow knight, why you gotta be like this  Just got the dream nail and was wondering where I should head off to next. Oh should go visit my mining bug friend and see if she found anything... 
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Aug 17, 2018 20:14
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It’s called Hollow Knight because of the hollow feeling it leaves in your heart.
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Aug 17, 2018 20:22
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Man gently caress hollow knight, why you gotta be like this RIP
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The first level of Sonic Adventure 2 is the only good 3D Sonic product
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