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dragon enthusiast posted:dragon's maze 2 baby should be called Dragons Raze, and be a showdown between Bolas and Niv Mizzet. 
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Timing has some work to do for Arena, but worst case scenario is still better than MTGO where you could be waiting for 20 minutes while they let their clock die.
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I am currently playing against the saltiest motherfucker in the world on Arena He played mill into Bant Turbofog Turns on arena basically accelerating my win state. He's forcing me to play out the reverse mill with two Teferi emblems out and him with zero permanents in play. I'm drawing one of the three Nexuses left that constitute my library and discarding it down to 7 and back into my library each turn. Even if he manages to drop a land and a 1 drop, they are gone on my draw step. 21 more turns until this is over. I could have beaten down with Karn constructs 20 minutes ago, but he managed to mill them all and Vraska the one I'd resolved (stranding one of my Nexuses in exile.)
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born on a buy you posted:apac/euro lands for life Meatbag Esq. posted:Why do they get progressively smaller? Climate change.
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Owlbear Camus posted:I am currently playing against the saltiest motherfucker in the world on Arena You ever try the mono red dragons list?
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Alright, land chat. This is the best plains.  Alternatively if you want to get fancy you can go for the connected art.     Best swamp is these two.   Best mountain   Best forest  Best island   I guess what I'm saying is that Portal Second Age and Mirage is extremely my poo poo. Sadly, the Mirage forests aren't very nice.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:You ever try the mono red dragons list? I've been absolutely tearing up Arena with this pile, and I don't know if it's "good" or if arena players are just "bad": 2 x Legion's Landing 3 x Llanowar Elves 1 x Adorned Pouncer 3 x Channeler Initiate 3 x Benalish Marshal 1 x Gideon of the Trials 2 x History of Benalia 3 x Gift of Paradise 2 x Pride Sovereign 2 x Cast Out 2 x Leonin Warleader 1 x Settle the Wreckage 2 x Shalai 2 x Huatli, Radiant Champion 2 x Foomigate 2 x Regal Caracal 2 x Vivien Reid 2 x Ajani Unyielding 2 x Memorial to Glory 2 x Shefet Dunes 1 x Field of Ruin 3 x Sunpetal Grove 3 x Tranquil Expanse 7 Plains 5 Forest
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There are an awful lot less 4-ofs in magic than I thought. Edit: u was taught if it's good enough to want in the deck. You want to see it as often as possible
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Aug 18, 2018 17:59
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ilmucche posted:There are an awful lot less 4-ofs in magic than I thought. I’m pretty sure that list is a pile and you generally do want 4 of your best cards but there are exceptions. When tutors and card selection cards are available you can potentially run fewer of those cards and also put 1 odd in your deck to grab as silver bullets. What does commonly happen, especially in grindier decks is that they’ll run a 1 of on insanely grindy cards so that in those matches, where they’ll be seeing more cards in their deck they’ll be more likely to draw it when they really need it.
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Aug 18, 2018 18:12
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ilmucche posted:There are an awful lot less 4-ofs in magic than I thought. Yeah it's just a silly deck I made one night and have been refining. I never expect it to do well but it always does  edit: if I had them, I would probably run more copies of certain cards, it's more that I don't want to waste wildcards on the deck so that's why there are so many non 4-ofs I would probably run 4 Vivien instead of 2 Ajani if I could edit2: 4 Huatli would also be ideal because the deck sometimes relies on Ultimating her really early and then drawing a million cards, which helps with the consistency of the deck overall precision fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Aug 18, 2018 18:20
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Koirhor posted:loving Marketing department is gonna kill literally every product or service with positive EV for customers.
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Aug 18, 2018 18:27
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My first ever 3-0 in draft, wooo 
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Aug 18, 2018 18:50
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Went 4-0 at FNM last night. Turns out that when you're solidly in "mono-green ramp/fatties" after pack 1, getting passed Sarkhan's Unsealing in packs 2 and 3 is pretty drat good. Also, I got to use Chaos Wand to spike a Cleansing Nova when I was otherwise dead on board.
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Aug 18, 2018 18:52
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What's the judge call about in this GP stream right now?
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Aug 18, 2018 19:01
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fadam posted:What's the judge call about in this GP stream right now? It was an unnecessarily long judge call about two lands played in one turn. No clue why it took almost 10 minutes to resolve
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ilmucche posted:There are an awful lot less 4-ofs in magic than I thought. You want 4 of basically any card that makes your deck go that isn't a total disaster if you draw it without something else. Aggro wants their most efficient beaters and removal, control wants their cheapest counters and draw spells, etc. Answers, combo pieces, utility spells like card draw, and important cards that require setup all tend to be run at less because they're 1) Competing for space with each other, and 2) Are of varying importance depending on what you expect to face. Strong, fairly universal answers that are cost-efficient tend to be 4-of, and everything else varies on how important it is, how much room you have to run it, and it's difficulty to cast. The deck above is absolutely a pile, but even piles can win if they're built well enough and have enough going in between the pieces- hell, one of the top decks in Legacy for a while pre-Deathrite ban was basically a four-colored pile of nonsense that just won games through value and Leovold. Mr. Locke fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Aug 18, 2018 19:09
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"turbo"fog is a deck for degenerates but I'm glad a Gam boy is going to win on camera 
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TheKingofSprings posted:I’m pretty sure that list is a pile and you generally do want 4 of your best cards but there are exceptions. Depending how much draw/tutor you run this can vary but this is how I look at card numbers: 4: I want to draw this card every game. If I draw multiples, even better. 3: I want to draw this card often, but I may not want multiples in any given game. Sometimes this applies to a key strategic card that's legendary. 2: This card is situationally great. Maybe something I want to see one of in the late game with some consistency, but drawing multiples early is bad. Maybe it's something I really only want to play after or in conjunction with another specific card. 1: I never want to see 2 of this but in situations I do see it, it's useful. Silver bullet in decks with tutor packages. May also just be a miser's copy of a key card for a specific matchup that's not great in other matchups in decks without tutoring. Another reason to run funny numbers can be to reach a total number of cards having some redundant effect. This article discusses a concept of a "7-9" rule where if you consistently want to see a specific effect in your opening hand, you run 7-9 cards that do that. The specific deck he's discussing this concept in relation to is one of the most extreme examples of fast combo, but the basic principle applies all the way down to Standard decks that want to make a certain play consistently on turn 1-2.
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Aug 18, 2018 19:25
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Dehtraen posted:It was an unnecessarily long judge call about two lands played in one turn. No clue why it took almost 10 minutes to resolve He not only didn’t pay correctly for memory but then shuffled the memory back into the deck.
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Aug 18, 2018 19:32
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KenBearlLOLOL posted:Another reason to run funny numbers can be to reach a total number of cards having some redundant effect. This article discusses a concept of a "7-9" rule where if you consistently want to see a specific effect in your opening hand, you run 7-9 cards that do that. The specific deck he's discussing this concept in relation to is one of the most extreme examples of fast combo, but the basic principle applies all the way down to Standard decks that want to make a certain play consistently on turn 1-2. Yeah it's very important to keep in mind when you have different cards that fill similar roles.
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Aug 18, 2018 19:42
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ilmucche posted:There are an awful lot less 4-ofs in magic than I thought. Not in this particular case, but it's important when looking at a deck to figure out if a 1-3 of is that or if it's a slightly worse 5-7 of another card.
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It begins. https://twitter.com/Gfabs5/status/1030906149867012096?s=19
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Thanks for the #-of chat. I'll have to keep that in mind while reworking my modern GW token deck. Populate for days.
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Aug 18, 2018 21:18
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i guess now is the time for all shady mtg grinders to set up a very good storefront and sell counterfeits to their enemies
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Aug 18, 2018 21:21
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M:TG is such an absurd distribution model I was trying to come up with a sports or other competitive event to liken this to but can't even think of a good analogy to describe why this is dumb. They manufacture the game pieces and organize the events, but then distribute the game pieces in such a way that the players are obliged to buy them through unaccountable third parties generally at great expense, and those same players bear the consequences if any fakes that slip into the system?
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Aug 18, 2018 21:28
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Owlbear Camus posted:They manufacture the game pieces and organize the events, but then distribute the game pieces in such a way that the players are obliged to buy them through unaccountable third parties generally at great expense, and those same players bear the consequences if any fakes that slip into the system? 
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Aug 18, 2018 21:31
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What happened to sealed deck: the game? Is it actually coming out?
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Aug 18, 2018 21:35
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ilmucche posted:What happened to sealed deck: the game? Is it actually coming out? BreaKey: The Uncustomizable Card Game is available for Preorder now! https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/keyforge/products/keyforge-call-archons/
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Aug 18, 2018 21:39
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It's one of the side effects of this type of game. The game pieces are distributed randomly in a sealed product and it has its roots in things like baseball cards. Even if booster packs were a dollar, there was no reserved list, reprints flowed like a raging river, and the most valuable single in the game was five dollars, there would still be counterfeits.
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Star Man posted:It's one of the side effects of this type of game. The game pieces are distributed randomly in a sealed product and it has its roots in things like baseball cards. I seriously doubt it. Not ones good enough to fool even the dumbest FNM player, anyway.
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Hi, since I'm a terrible person I decided to try making a mill deck in standard (here). Any tips to improve it, other than swapping out the cast downs/murders for fatal pushes/vraska's contempts? I originally had a 2-of Azor's Gateway, but I ended up seeing both in games enough I swapped one for a Treasure Map. I feel like I could be running more lands but with all the 2-mana draws in the deck I haven't gotten mana-screwed too often. Here's the deck list if you don't want to click through: 1 Anticipate 1 Arch of Orazca 1 Azor's Gateway 2 Cast Down 4 Chart a Course 1 Desert of the Mindful 3 Drowned Catacomb 4 Dusk Legion Zealot 2 Fatal Push 1 Field of Ruin 4 Filigree Familiar 2 Ipnu Rivulet 4 Island 3 Memorial to Genius 1 Murder 2 Patient Rebuilding 4 Psychic Corrosion 1 River's Rebuke 4 Sai, Master Thopterist 1 Search for Azcanta 1 Supreme Will 7 Swamp 1 Treasure Map 1 Vicious Offering 2 Vraska's Contempt 2 Yahenni's Expertise 1 Arguel's Blood Fast 1 Cast Down 1 Crook of Condemnation 4 Duress 2 Expel from Orazca 1 Lost Legacy 4 Negate 1 Sentinel Totem kurona_bright fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Where's my best chance of picking up some games of Modern this evening in Spokane? I was thinking Merlyn's.
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Star Man posted:Even if booster packs were a dollar, there was no reserved list, reprints flowed like a raging river, and the most valuable single in the game was five dollars, there would still be counterfeits. I feel like the time, effort, and iteration to set up a counterfeiting operation for $5 Magic cards would not be worth it.
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He 100% knew they were fake, lmao.
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80s James Hetfield posted:He 100% knew they were fake, lmao. That’s neat, you should post your proof in a reply to that twitter thread
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Aug 19, 2018 00:22
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If you are trying to say that a full time magic grinder will not know what fake cards look like, that’s a pretty insane statement. Proof in a case like this is never going to happen though, barring a post on twitter stating he is running fake cards this weekend
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meanolmrcloud posted:If you are trying to say that a full time magic grinder will not know what fake cards look like, that’s a pretty insane statement. Proof in a case like this is never going to happen though, barring a post on twitter stating he is running fake cards this weekend Playing magic full time doesn’t automatically make you able to spot counterfeits. I have handled out of the sleeve and played with counterfeits from about every major fake producer out there and I STILL have been fooled through TCGplayer sales a handful of times.
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meanolmrcloud posted:If you are trying to say that a full time magic grinder will not know what fake cards look like, that’s a pretty insane statement. Proof in a case like this is never going to happen though, barring a post on twitter stating he is running fake cards this weekend if he knew they were fake why wouldnt he have done what any sane person would do and returned them to TCG player instead of paying full price for counterfeits and risking getting a DQ
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If they were so good, how were they spotted at a tournament? Do judges whip out a loupe? Did someone think they looked funny? That’s almost certainly the case, and if some rando could call it, it’s insane he wouldn’t.
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again literally why would he keep and take with him to a tournament full price counterfeits
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