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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

the thinkpieces after wonder woman 1984 about how the mujahideen was actually woke are gonna be so good

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

R. Guyovich posted:

the thinkpieces after wonder woman 1984 about how the mujahideen was actually woke are gonna be so good

I saw one of those social media text over clips videos where they were advertising this woke British MI6 spy show featuring this Muslim woman character talking about how she chooses to wear the hijab

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

fermun posted:

eugene dsa is pretty active in a proposal to build a pacific northwest regional structure

abolish the npc and replace it with federated regional orgs

all power to the locals

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

there are some people who do lots of legitimate and good organizing but also want DSA to be Antifa: The Organization a 501(c)(3), which is is not now and should not be in the future.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Isn't have the point of antifa being not really an organisation at all? So it can't be annihilated by the authorities at the first opportunity?

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

there are some people who do lots of legitimate and good organizing but also want DSA to be Canvassers: The Organization a 501(c)(3), which is is not now and should not be in the future.

ZAA trick ZAAAH
Mar 13, 2001

abolishing the npc & national staff by getting them brought up on conspiracy charges, a 16 phase plan by your old assistant manager in retail who goes to burning man & is still trying to get you to watch dr. horrible's sing along blog

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's funny that every experience I have on a personal level with staff has been a positive experience and I have a really good working relationship with my regional organizer, but it really does feel that the structure as it exists continually results in pratfalls and missteps. I wish there was more serious talk right now about what kind of positive changes could be made without simply dragging folks for not living up to expectations. Unfortunately most of my experiences with national working groups or caucuses has been poor and unproductive so I've just focused locally and its been chugging along towards us having a formalized state structure, though since there's just two chapters and some YDSA chapters in OK, that's a smaller lift, but hopefully we can work out some models on that smaller scale and see if it can be brought at convention for possible reform.

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Austin counter protest was a success, the speakers all had to scream into their PA system how they were "totally not fascist" while standing next to white nationalists. They packed poo poo in an hour after taking the stage and roasted in the sun.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i got invited into a Jewish solidarity group in NYC DSA and we talk about stuff in a Discord channel. somehow they know i post on SA and someone mentioned that a long post history here is a "red flag". they're seemingly more left-wing than DSA here at large and they should be suspicious of new members, but i have no idea why being a goon is bad

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 00:29 on Aug 19, 2018

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

A flag for being a good poster and having good politics? Remember that nazis think we invented online social justice ala some modern-day elders of zion.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I think being a Goon is a huge Red Flag just, like, in general.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

I think being a Goon is a huge Red Flag just, like, in general.
well yeah, but in the context of Jewish socialism it makes no sense

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

get that OUT of my face posted:

i got invited into a Jewish solidarity group in NYC DSA and we talk about stuff in a Discord channel. somehow they know i post on SA and someone mentioned that a long post history here is a "red flag". they're seemingly more left-wing than DSA here at large and they should be suspicious of new members, but i have no idea why being a goon is bad

have you read this thread?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Defenestration posted:

have you read this thread?
barely

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

get that OUT of my face posted:

i got invited into a Jewish solidarity group in NYC DSA and we talk about stuff in a Discord channel. somehow they know i post on SA and someone mentioned that a long post history here is a "red flag". they're seemingly more left-wing than DSA here at large and they should be suspicious of new members, but i have no idea why being a goon is bad

People link SA/goons to FYAD, and a contingent of online DSA hate irony to the point where they created a made up term "irony fash" to accuse people who make jokes of being Nazis lol

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

People link SA/goons to FYAD, and a contingent of online DSA hate irony to the point where they created a made up term "irony fash" to accuse people who make jokes of being Nazis lol
that explains it. i guess the only acceptable way to joke online is to make semi-ironic, unfunny memes about socialism

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

get that OUT of my face posted:

that explains it. i guess the only acceptable way to joke online is to make semi-ironic, unfunny memes about socialism

I mean you can just ignore those people or laugh at them, they don't really exist much offline, theyre mostly like that bc they're trying to leverage it into social standing/climbing or self promotion or whatever or they're psychotic narcissists.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

I mean you can just ignore those people or laugh at them, they don't really exist much offline, theyre mostly like that bc they're trying to leverage it into social standing/climbing or self promotion or whatever or they're psychotic narcissists.
i don't bother with twitter and never read my facebook timeline, plus NYC DSA is mostly free of idiotic IRL drama, save for one moron in the Central Brooklyn branch. that's why i was surprised to see something like that

also it's not an NYC-based group, it's nationwide. so that explains things too

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

get that OUT of my face posted:

i don't bother with twitter and never read my facebook timeline, plus NYC DSA is mostly free of idiotic IRL drama, save for one moron in the Central Brooklyn branch. that's why i was surprised to see something like that

also it's not an NYC-based group, it's nationwide. so that explains things too

if you're not on Twitter I wouldn't worry about it, thats like 99% what the people who get mad about that kind of poo poo care about

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
theyre right to think being a goon is bad

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

isn't a Red Flag a good thing 😂😂😂😂😂

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


I just block people I see creating drama, which makes my timeline chill as hell

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Ace of Baes posted:

if you're not on Twitter I wouldn't worry about it, thats like 99% what the people who get mad about that kind of poo poo care about

dismissing drama as "online" seems like an easy way to make the drama go out of control

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

i got invited into a Jewish solidarity group in NYC DSA and we talk about stuff in a Discord channel. somehow they know i post on SA and someone mentioned that a long post history here is a "red flag". they're seemingly more left-wing than DSA here at large and they should be suspicious of new members, but i have no idea why being a goon is bad

first they came for the goons, and i had stairs so i said nothing...

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug

Yinlock posted:

dismissing drama as "online" seems like an easy way to make the drama go out of control

Hello from Boston

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
There's very few actual alt right clowns on this forum. Even the horrible FYAD forum is probably more leftist than most people on Twitter or whatever


So those guys are retarded is what I'm saying

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Karl Barks posted:

isn't a Red Flag a good thing 😂😂😂😂😂

apropos to nothing posted:

theyre right to think being a goon is bad

both of these things are true


we are a very left wing forum but also, we are, how do you say, someth- :commissar:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Helldump.

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I've recently learned that goons are apparently responsible for basically every bad thing that has happened in the world in the last 10 years so yeah I'd be wary of us too.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
But seriously, it's mostly FYAD, Helldump, and forum invasions in general. That kind of thing is looked at pretty dimly nowadays with words like 'harassment campaign'. That and being the only one of two places left on the internet that actually cares about furries, and the other is a literal Nazi haven.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


a lot of ex-lf people who went nuts on tumblr and twitter have spread a dim view of the forums that has been exported to a lot of the extremely online left

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

a lot of ex-lf people who went nuts on tumblr and twitter have spread a dim view of the forums that has been exported to a lot of the extremely online left

We're not sending our best.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

docbeard posted:

We're not sending our best.

Somebody's doing the posting

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

https://twitter.com/evan_lemire/status/1031340697494974465

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


I like the proposal!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dreddout posted:

Somebody's doing the posting

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

why dont they just break the big boston chapter up into a bunch of smaller chapters so they can have more robust debate and discussion, then have the elected chapter leadership coordinate and collaborate through a citywide leadership structure? this is how most every other socialist org operates in large metropolitan areas. like the fact that there are so many people that 99% of them cant voice their views is a problem, but if youve spent anytime in radical circles you also know that prolonged discussion over controversial decisions can paralyze actual decision making and action taking.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

apropos to nothing posted:

why dont they just break the big boston chapter up into a bunch of smaller chapters so they can have more robust debate and discussion, then have the elected chapter leadership coordinate and collaborate through a citywide leadership structure? this is how most every other socialist org operates in large metropolitan areas. like the fact that there are so many people that 99% of them cant voice their views is a problem, but if youve spent anytime in radical circles you also know that prolonged discussion over controversial decisions can paralyze actual decision making and action taking.

I've heard people talk about that, I could maybe support it. I guess no one has felt strongly enough about it to actually go through the planning stages of how to do it. If we end up incorporating as a statewide organization, I think it would be more likely to happen.

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/rtaylor_johnson/status/1031330180223127553?s=19

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