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fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Bust Rodd posted:

No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities.

Saying something is “overrated” is shorthand for “I don’t like a popular thing” and that is literally the only information that statement is capable of providing.

Lol

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Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.

Bust Rodd posted:

No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities.

Saying something is “overrated” is shorthand for “I don’t like a popular thing” and that is literally the only information that statement is capable of providing.

Wow king

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
I know a game can be underrated, and it can be overrated, but can it ever just be, like, rated?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


But society is really very retarded on average

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

GTA4 is better than 5 or San Andreas

But not better than Vice City

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

ishikabibble posted:

Unpopular Videogame Opinion: MGS4 was actually Real Good

Especially compared to MGSV. It still had the third person shooter elements but was an actually interesting Metal Gear game as opposed to a open world slog. You had interestingly designed levels with tons of small details and secrets to find and because you could instantly swap equipment on the fly, you actually could reasonably use more than 10% of the gear you've acquired even if it just for a laugh. It was weird, it was funny, it was dramatic, and it was actually Metal Gear in tone as opposed to whatever the hell MGSV was trying to be.

I've genuinely never understood why MGS4 is so hated beyond the "lol the cutscenes long" joke.

MGS4's problem is that it jumps from one thing to the next. Often resulting in the player running through a straight line. This is in contrast to the older games where you have "level maps" to explore and mess with. Ground Zeroes brought classic Metal Gear into the modern age...until Phantom Pain ruined it by going with the quantity over quality approach.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
No drug can be “over-prescribed” because that means you think too many doctors think a drug is good, which isn’t a criticism of the drug but of the society the drug is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the drug or its qualities.

Saying a drug is “over-prescribed” is shorthand for “I don’t think this substance is safe” and that is literally the only information that statement is capable of providing.

signalnoise fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Aug 18, 2018

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


signalnoise posted:

No drug can be “over-prescribed” because that means you think too many doctors think a drug is good, which isn’t a criticism of the drug but of the society the drug is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the drug or its qualities.

Saying a drug is “over-prescribed” is shorthand for “I don’t think this substance is safe” and that is literally the only information that statement is capable of providing.

???

Saying antibiotics are over-prescribed has nothing to do with antibiotics being unsafe, just that they often are often prescribed even when diagnosis says it's unlikely to be helpful. Overrated means something receives more praise than it deserves in quantity or content. Jesus, this is not big words.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

BioMe posted:

???

Saying antibiotics are over-prescribed has nothing to do with antibiotics being unsafe, just that they often are often prescribed even when diagnosis says it's unlikely to be helpful. Overrated means something receives more praise than it deserves in quantity or content. Jesus, this is not big words.

Opioids, dude

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

GTA has never been good and GTA Online is the western version of the garbage asian mmos.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Also Bethesda continues to have never developed anything of value themselves.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Jack Trades posted:

Also Bethesda continues to have never developed anything of value themselves.

Wrong, they made burnout championship drag racing and ihra motorsport the only good drag racing games ever made.

YagotmeIdidit
Jan 10, 2018

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Here's a recent post on the subject of GTAIV's high-score:

http://shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=43438

quote:

Scenes that don’t need to be in the game / movie. The director had this idea for a scene they wanted to shoot and so they just shoved it in wherever it would fit. (For example: Was the motorcycle chase at all important to the story? Did it advance the plot or tell us anything about our characters[1]? No. But the director wanted a motorcycle chase, so they put one in for the same reason Michael Bay puts chase scenes in his movies. I’m not saying chase scenes are bad, I’m saying a pointless chase scene that doesn’t advance the plot or tell us about the characters is bad.

What kind of dog-poo poo retrospective is this? So he'd rather the game be tonally consistent than to be to fun?

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Jack Trades posted:

GTA has never been good and GTA Online is the western version of the garbage asian mmos.

The first gta game was good

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









fridge corn posted:

The first gta game was good

incorrect

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

sebmojo posted:

incorrect

GTA1 and GTA2 were excellent, the top-down perspective and emphasis on goofing around and having fun made for really cool games that weren't up their own rear end

GTA3 is when they started going full edgelord but it was suddenly 3D so everyone was like "well at least this is new and interesting"

And then they remade GTA3 like 6 more times

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
GTA is good.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

YagotmeIdidit posted:

What kind of dog-poo poo retrospective is this? So he'd rather the game be tonally consistent than to be to fun?

IIRC he hated Assassin’s Creed 2 because of Ezio, so I wouldn’t really put too much stock in what he says.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Assassin's Creed Origin is the most disappointing game I've ever bought. It was also my first AssCreed game, period, so maybe I just misunderstood the idea behind it. What I expected was a classical open world RPG , what I got was a lovely action game with infinitely respawning enemies.

40-Degree Day
Sep 24, 2012


rear end Creed Origins, the supposed 'good one', is loving boring and bad.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Hmm. Nope. Just ran the numbers, and that doesn't check out.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

man nurse posted:

Hmm. Nope. Just ran the numbers, and that doesn't check out.

Yeah, it's worse than just bad

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
black flag is the only good rear end creed game. and only if you ignored the storyline

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

black flag is the only good rear end creed game. and only if you ignored the storyline

If anyone knows of a better sea shanty simulator please let me know.

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

steinrokkan posted:

People who listen to game sountracks are like people who listen to porn music

I'm glad this thread can rest firmly and soundly upon this pillar of unpopular opinions.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

black flag is the only good rear end creed game. and only if you ignored the storyline

Its amazing to me that series has been going on for so long and didn't turn into a pirate simulator half way through

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Away all Goats posted:

Its amazing to me that series has been going on for so long and didn't turn into a pirate simulator half way through

Well it kind of did. They have essentially taken Black Flag's naval combat and stuff, ripped it entirely away from the Assassin's Creed story, and made it its own game called Skull and Bones. And it looks great

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

signalnoise posted:

Well it kind of did. They have essentially taken Black Flag's naval combat and stuff, ripped it entirely away from the Assassin's Creed story, and made it its own game called Skull and Bones. And it looks great

I will preorder that poo poo. Got a link?

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Assassins Creed Unity loving owns, specially if you played it all patched up.

There is no better and more beautiful map than France, and it has the mysteries mini games, and a cool main character that could’ve been another Ezio if given a chance

And yet Syndicate is way more popular even though it’s ugly and drab (because it’s loving London), and the twins are pretty lame and gimmicky

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Everyone touts Origins as an actually “good game” but I’ve watched so much footage of the game that clearly indicates “no it’s still bad”

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Mumpy Puffinz posted:

black flag is the only good rear end creed game. and only if you ignored the storyline

Syndicate is ok, though inferior to the cyberpunk fps

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
the navel combat was the worst part of ac3 and I won't play black flag because of it

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

assassin's creed sucks exclusively and always and I won't hear anything from anybody saying otherwise, including the idea that boat combat somehow made it good (it didn't)

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

fridge corn posted:

the navel combat was the worst part of ac3 and I won't play black flag because of it

You just didn't have the stomach for it.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

signalnoise posted:

You just didn't have the stomach for it.

haha

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Assflag ship combat was good for an asscreed game because it wasnt the same exact gameplay as the 12 previous asscreed games

Ubi will gently caress up their ship combat game spinoff for sure, because it's what they do

poverty goat fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Aug 19, 2018

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mumpy Puffinz posted:

black flag is the only good rear end creed game. and only if you ignored the storyline

The protagonist sure tried to do that.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I always felt that Sega was a bit over-rated. Even in their prime I feel that they were overshadowed by the likes of Konami (who were arguably the #1 publisher/developer on every major console since the NES until the 32-bit era), and likely even Capcom. Even amongst arcade games I felt that Konami and Capcom made more hits and an impact. Though I will admit that Sega made the best arcade games during the 32bit and on, but to be fair that's because Konami and Capcom were on the process of moving on to consoles.

Comparing Sega and Nintendo was just odd to me. Especially since I saw Sega as a "quantity" and Nintendo a "quality" one. Sure Sega published like 80 games per year and dozens of them were great. But rarely were their games of the caliber of Nintendo's finest. Personally I feel that if any developer/publisher was close to Nintendo in quality at that time it was Konami.

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

This wish was granted by Former DILF

punk rebel ecks posted:

MGS4's problem is that it jumps from one thing to the next. Often resulting in the player running through a straight line. This is in contrast to the older games where you have "level maps" to explore and mess with. Ground Zeroes brought classic Metal Gear into the modern age...until Phantom Pain ruined it by going with the quantity over quality approach.

I think MGSV may have been better as a spin off. I thought it was a fun game but it didn't feel like a Metal Gear game to me.

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Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


QuarkJets posted:

GTA1 and GTA2 were excellent, the top-down perspective and emphasis on goofing around and having fun made for really cool games that weren't up their own rear end

GTA3 is when they started going full edgelord but it was suddenly 3D so everyone was like "well at least this is new and interesting"

And then they remade GTA3 like 6 more times

Nothing else I have ever done in any GTA game is as fun as shooting people randomly and then seeing how long I can fight the police before they take me out. And that's really what you do in a lot of games. The storylines are just a bore, and the series' tragically misplaced and growing obsession with realism has turned into the world's worst racing game.

Name Change fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Aug 20, 2018

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