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Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Zombiepop posted:

Well people should drive less anyway. :) (Just kidding)

The thing i find most annoying about the latest burnings is that the cops talks so much poo poo, someone should tell them to shut the gently caress up.

They say it aint political when expressen got a video, from someone in contact with the gently caress ups that clearly states that it is. Like what the gently caress do the cops know, I live in one of these areas and it's very hard to feel like the cops got mine and my neighbors best interest at heart.
like its a No-go zone, they are just criminals, they just want to destroy etc etc. Cops dont know anything about us and our struggles and frustration.
Not trying to apologize for burning cars but we are really treated like poo poo by em.

To piss on your own neighbors is really the dumbest loving way to make that statement though.

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thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Zudgemud posted:

To piss on your own neighbors is really the dumbest loving way to make that statement though.

Dude, bait.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

https://twitter.com/henrikoscarsson/status/1030087918495428608?s=21

Some interesting historical statistics covering the Swedish electorate.
Given certain changes in the voters, S decline is hardly surprising.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6teborg/demokraterna-st%C3%B6rsta-parti-klart-st%C3%B6rre-%C3%A4n-m-och-s-1.7711459

quote:

Enligt Sifo går det nu att konstatera ställningarna mellan de fyra största partierna, vilket innebär att Demokraterna är på god väg att bli stadens största parti.

I dag skulle 18,9 procent av Göteborgarna rösta på uppstickarpartiet, enligt undersökningen.

– Demokraterna ligger signifikant över Moderaterna. Det var kanske omvälvande i april, nu ligger det kvar under valrörelsens sista veckor, men det är fortfarande sensationellt, säger Sifos opinionschef Toivo Sjörén.

quote:

Socialdemokraternas krisande siffror kvarstår, även om partiet fått stopp på sitt opinionstapp. För fjärde mätningen i rad har S ett stöd långt under valresultatet 2014 (23,8 procent).

Enligt GP/Sifos mätning skulle bara 14,2 procent av väljarna lägga sin röst på S. I mätningen konkurrerar partiet med Vänsterpartiet om tredjeplatsen. V skulle i dag få 14,6 procent av rösterna.

Democrats larger than M and V larger than S in Gothenburg. What a time to be alive. Västlänken shall outlast us all.

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

MiddleOne posted:

Västlänken shall outlast us all.

I'm not very well versed in tunnel expiry dates but I'm pretty sure it can more than match human lifespans with standard maintenance. I for one welcome better public transport capacity and the trampling of old nimbys. The proposed aerial lift project can gently caress right off though.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010

Zudgemud posted:

To piss on your own neighbors is really the dumbest loving way to make that statement though.

Sure is, that does not change the fact that the cops should stfu.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/SebastianPanzar/status/1030164275988504577

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
Thats not a good look. Ouch

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

More and more stupid election ads are being put up along my walk to and from work, and it's all from the same party. They've gone way past what the circuses usually throw out. It just reeks of desperation.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
Basically only V has a poster worth a drat. SDs are cute but thats it

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/1030416737307648000?s=21

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Just in case you forgot that SD is racist:
https://twitter.com/svarthumle/status/1030499637558472704

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005


This is funny



What's the translation to this? Google translate gave me gibberish

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Quoted Tweet: "Genetically contingent cultural differences". Nice nazi party you're planning to put into power, Sweden.

Followup: There's surprisingly little uproar from the Sweden democrats going on Urix and claiming that people are born with a "cultural essence".

It is gibberish, but it's racist gibberish with which vast demographic swathes are unsettlingly comfortable.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Wait, it's saying that cultural differences are genetic? But...that makes zero sense! Where did that quote come from?

The whole idea of blaming "culture" instead of genetics is that it gave racist right-wingers a fig leaf ro espouse and disseminate xenophobia. Going back to blaming genetics again is just stupid.

Here's googles translation btw

Genetic Beta Culture Differences. "Great naziparti they intend to give power, Sweden.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

The great thing about the normalization of extreme ideas through euphemisms is that at some point you can just drop the euphemisms altogether and no one will bat an eye.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I've no idea what the original quote is (and google doesn't turn up anything using that exact phrasing), but that is very definitely what it says. It sounds like the kind of thing you say behind closed doors long enough to internalize it, but is incredibly damning when anyone who's not in your bubble hears it.

I attended a local debate a couple years back when a DF member ended up cornered, and she ended up repeatedly comparing trying to maintain your culture in a foreign country to a Brit coming to the mainland and insisting on driving on the left side of the road. She clearly was not used to this being anything less than an instant argument-winner.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I've no idea what the original quote is (and google doesn't turn up anything using that exact phrasing), but that is very definitely what it says. It sounds like the kind of thing you say behind closed doors long enough to internalize it, but is incredibly damning when anyone who's not in your bubble hears it.

I attended a local debate a couple years back when a DF member ended up cornered, and she ended up repeatedly comparing trying to maintain your culture in a foreign country to a Brit coming to the mainland and insisting on driving on the left side of the road. She clearly was not used to this being anything less than an instant argument-winner.

So from which SD member did the quote origin from? If that can’t be stated an random tweet means nothing.

MiddleOne posted:

The great thing about the normalization of extreme ideas through euphemisms is that at some point you can just drop the euphemisms altogether and no one will bat an eye.

Have worked great for socialism/communism where no one bats an eye at the phrase “Armed struggle”.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I've no idea what the original quote is (and google doesn't turn up anything using that exact phrasing), but that is very definitely what it says.

Urix is a norwegian tv show that discuss foreign politics, they interviewed a guy from SD last week:
https://tv.nrk.no/serie/urix/NNFA53081618/16-08-2018

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011








MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Cardiac posted:

Have worked great for socialism/communism where no one bats an eye at the phrase “Armed struggle”.

Works for any non-normative idea really. You should read up on discourse theory Cardiac, it's exciting stuff (it's not).

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Now, I'm on board with abolishing monarchy. gently caress them. They were relatively inoffensive but charter schools for rich kids is a bit too far. gently caress them.

https://www.thelocal.se/20180817/princess-estelle-to-start-at-elite-school-stockholm

I really hope that the Swedish people will get behind abolishing the monarchy and seizing their assets. We should be past that stage in humanity.

Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Aug 18, 2018

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

lol @ Nils feigning incredulity every single time.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Alhazred posted:

Urix is a norwegian tv show that discuss foreign politics, they interviewed a guy from SD last week:
https://tv.nrk.no/serie/urix/NNFA53081618/16-08-2018

Cheers. I miss the days where nativists weren't comfortable enough to openly espouse nazi rhetoric, and they actually got in trouble for being cool with it when they let the mask slip.


THE BAR posted:

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

Ugh.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

THE BAR posted:

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

It's easier to understand their motivations when you realise that all they really want is a special police force to judge whether a person's beard or mode of dress is appropriate. No wonder the hypocritical swine can't get that Saudi halal dick out of their collective mouths.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

THE BAR posted:

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

It's rare you know exactly when you decided something, but my desire to pursue Danish citizenship just finally died reading this.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

SplitSoul posted:

No wonder the hypocritical swine can't get that Saudi halal dick out of their collective mouths.

Kinda homophobic there, buddy.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010

Rust Martialis posted:

It's rare you know exactly when you decided something, but my desire to pursue Danish citizenship just finally died reading this.

So you can't vote against it but just sit around and let it happen? Nice complacency.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Dirk Pitt posted:

Now, I'm on board with abolishing monarchy. gently caress them. They were relatively inoffensive but charter schools for rich kids is a bit too far. gently caress them.

https://www.thelocal.se/20180817/princess-estelle-to-start-at-elite-school-stockholm

I really hope that the Swedish people will get behind abolishing the monarchy and seizing their assets. We should be past that stage in humanity.

Because their kid goes to a private schools? There's like thousands of people who do that. That kid will never have a normal life any way no matter which school she goes to, in my mind that's (the fact that their children practically get to live in a kind of gilded cage and get to be celebrities no matter how they might feel about or cope with that fact) a far more compelling argument against the monarchy than just being angry that some of their kids are sent to rich peoples' private schools.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

Randarkman posted:

Because their kid goes to a private schools? There's like thousands of people who do that. That kid will never have a normal life any way no matter which school she goes to, in my mind that's (the fact that their children practically get to live in a kind of gilded cage and get to be celebrities no matter how they might feel about or cope with that fact) a far more compelling argument against the monarchy than just being angry that some of their kids are sent to rich peoples' private schools.

The loophole thing in the article sounds far more disturbing.

Pump it up! Do it!
Oct 3, 2012

THE BAR posted:

S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship.

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2018-08-19-partier-alle-skal-give-hand-for-at-fa-dansk-statsborgerskab

This is so nakedly stupid and evil.

Evil in what way? Do you think that people that gender discriminate based on a nutjob religion are the kind of citizens Denmark needs? Hopefully we will get some similar laws in Sweden soon as well instead of paying damages to idiots who refuse to shake hands.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

Pump it up! Do it! posted:

Evil in what way? Do you think that people that gender discriminate based on a nutjob religion are the kind of citizens Denmark needs? Hopefully we will get some similar laws in Sweden soon as well instead of paying damages to idiots who refuse to shake hands.

Evil in that it's a floodgate opening for all kinds of restrictions, based on what can be perceived as harmless oddities.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
It's clearly a reactionary proposal, and the people who made it would probably rather (and still might) have it be so you have to eat a piece of pork during the ceremony.

I'm sure the Danes would have done something horrible no matter what, but I'm not sure what to think about the whole handshake thing. Anti-discrimination laws seem awfully arbitrary and non-holistic, and reading the stuff in the European Convention on Human Rights about Freedom of Religion there appears to be not very well defined restrictions upon what cultural norms you can claim exemption from on religious grounds. The job-interview situation described sounds sketchy as gently caress, and clearly the people doing the interviewing were the ones who made it into a full on confrontation instead of just rolling with it, but now that it is in the media and it's being spun as someone demonstrably refusing to shake hands it is being seen as anti-social and the right is milking that sentiment for what it is worth.

thotsky fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Aug 19, 2018

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Rust Martialis posted:

Kinda homophobic there, buddy.

I'm not implying either party is homosexual or that homosexuality is bad, I'm saying the Danish government and the Social Democrats are so subservient to the whims of one of the most repressive regimes on the planet that they would happily provide sexual favours for the Saudi royalty also, figuratively speaking. I sure hope my faux pas wasn't nearly as bad as flogging gays and trans people half to death.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

Buller posted:

So you can't vote against it but just sit around and let it happen? Nice complacency.

Actually I am considered quite a "politically correct" complainer at work because I keep commenting on how it's shocking to me how Danes openly accept levels of sexism, homophobia and racism in the workplace that I would expect to result in huge complaints to HR back in Canada. I've repeatedly commented to upper management, for example, that one junior female solution architect in a department of 60 architects is totally insane and unjustifiable.

I've grown increasingly disillusioned with Danish politics and, frankly, Danish attitudes over my year here, and am having serious doubts about staying in Denmark long enough to earn citizenship. Jokes about learning Danish aside, the politics frankly sicken me. In the mean time I will continue to mentor younger peers at work and try to work to improve gender equality in the workplace in the hope the emerging employees will have a less toxic work environment.

But my original intent to buckle down and work on Danish citizenship (a 5+ year process) is flickering out as a result. I voted in local elections for the leftists, but the only tolerable parties are basically fringe here as far as I can see.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

SplitSoul posted:

I'm not implying either party is homosexual or that homosexuality is bad, I'm saying the Danish government and the Social Democrats are so subservient to the whims of one of the most repressive regimes on the planet that they would happily provide sexual favours for the Saudi royalty also, figuratively speaking. I sure hope my faux pas wasn't nearly as bad as flogging gays and trans people half to death.

You basically just confirmed that your preferred metaphor for being subservient is sucking dick. You don't see the blatant homophobia in the association there? Seriously?

You just insulted a group by calling them a bunch of dick suckers, and therefore subservient. But no, you're not implying *anything* about gays. Noooooooo. Mere coincidence.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010

Rust Martialis posted:

Danes being danish.txt

They are quite rock n roll and no fucks are given, but jump over the strait and join us in Sweden instead :) here we care for our fellow man(mostly atleast)
Also danish sounds like someone has oatmeal in their mouth all the fuckin time.

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thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Rust Martialis posted:

You basically just confirmed that your preferred metaphor for being subservient is sucking dick. You don't see the blatant homophobia in the association there? Seriously?

You just insulted a group by calling them a bunch of dick suckers, and therefore subservient. But no, you're not implying *anything* about gays. Noooooooo. Mere coincidence.

Are you implying only men could serve in the Danish government? Hah, hoisted by your own Picard! Let's all make a bunch of wild accusations like we're on Twitter!

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