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sullat posted:JFC, that's like, super bad. Unless he works for the administration and ethics rules don't apply to him. Or maybe Texas is more relaxed about that sort of thing. Lol if you don't bill by quarter hour.
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SlyFrog posted:My career services office gave us actively stupid advice. Like not merely being passively negligent in not preparing us, but affirmatively telling us to ask about things like work/life balance, etc. The valedictorian at my school always gave a speech at the dinner the night before graduation, in addition to the convocation address. Two years before me the guy commented that the two primary career services people were leaving for new jobs at the end of the year and said, "Bringing the total number of people getting jobs through career services to two."
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# ? Aug 20, 2018 21:40 |
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SlyFrog posted:My career services office gave us actively stupid advice. Like not merely being passively negligent in not preparing us, but affirmatively telling us to ask about things like work/life balance, etc. Yeah, my worst interviews were the ones where I tried to heed career service's advice and the only things I got yelled at for 1L summer were things career services said would be major goofs if I didn't do them.
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Look Sir Droids posted:Career services is the absolute most useless part of any law school Pretty sure thats the Admissions department
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Admissions exists to directly provide revenue for the school. Career Services provides indirect revenue if it gets alumni jobs (lol) and those alumni decide to donate to the school (which they do solely for their ego and not because of career services).
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The joke is because they let people in to law school
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Nonexistence posted:Yeah, my worst interviews were the ones where I tried to heed career service's advice and the only things I got yelled at for 1L summer were things career services said would be major goofs if I didn't do them.
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blarzgh posted:Pretty sure thats the Admissions department They’re not useless, they’re complicit.
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My view: asking about work/life balance is very much an "it depends" kind of thing. If the firm's recruiting website talks about it at any length, that's an invitation to ask. I wouldn't make it my first/only question. And ask it in a smart way. BAD: "HEY CAN I GO HOME AT 5:30???" GOOD: "so, I saw your website mentioned that SS&J ranked 15th on Capitalism Magazine's 500 Cool Places to Die at Your Desk List last year -- what's your typical workday like? why do you think you ranked that highly?" Also it depends on your options. Desperate for any job so you don't have to fight Toona for methdick in the alley? Maybe be judicious. top 20% at a T14? pull the trigger, rock star SlyFrog posted:Seriously, I am in the camp that you never ask about work/life balance. It's the equivalent of asking about length and girth with a scared look on your face. It doesn't matter whether it's painful, your job is to just fit it in there somehow. No one wants to hear about how you don't like that stretched out feeling afterward. Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Separate post for an ethics-lite question. What if you switched him to a case involving that firm? He would have to tell you then right?
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# ? Aug 20, 2018 22:31 |
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nm posted:Clinics are the only good thing in law school, where you get to go play real lawyer. I got to try a few trials. I don't think my friend is interested in that sort of thing at all. So I guess the overall conclusion is leaning slightly to "not drop out?" Otherwise I think he should at least not drop out until he has something else lined up, right?
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Nirvikalpa posted:I don't think my friend is interested in that sort of thing at all. buy him an account
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# ? Aug 20, 2018 22:42 |
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Got a good one. Another lawyer in my firm represents an HOA; Plaintiff was a landscaping company that botched a job, walked off, and is now demanding payment. Plaintiff sues for breach of contract. First set of discovery request to P, Request No. 1: Please produce the contract. In the instructions: "The Contract" shall have the same meaning as the term in Plaintiff's Original Petition. Objection: "The request is vague, overbroad, unduly burdensome, calls for a legal conclusion, etc..." Every other request after that, same objections, copy/pasted. No docs produced. Same objections to every interrogatory, every request for admission. Attorney drafts a very cordial, direct letter, which goes through each objection, asking for the legal and factual basis of the objection. Sends it, asks for a conference call. On the phone today: Our Attorney: "Ok, so can we get a copy of the contract?" Opposing Counsel: "Look, we said you can come inspect it[at their office in another state]." OA: "I know you did, and we can argue about that later, but can you not even scan me in a copy so I know what the contract your suing on is?" OC: : "No." OA: "Ok, then. Can we talk about your objections to see if we can avoid having a motion to compel? Lets start with Request 1 - you say the request for the contract is 'vague.' Could you explain that to me?" OC: "Well its vague. How do i know what contract you're asking for??" OA: "In our instructions, it says the contract is the contract you refer to in your petition. I'm not seeing how thats so vague you can't, in good faith, respond to the request." OC: "Well then you're just plain stupid. And if you file a motion to compel, we WILL be asking for our attorneys fees. Take care." *click*
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# ? Aug 20, 2018 23:05 |
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blarzgh posted:Pretty sure thats the Admissions department I know a guy from law school who failed the bar exam 3 (or more) times. Not sure if he ever passed, actually. Turns out he works for the school's admissions department now.
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Vox Nihili posted:I know a guy from law school who failed the bar exam 3 (or more) times. Not sure if he ever passed, actually. Did career services find him the job?
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Look Sir Droids posted:Did career services find him the job? They were probably involved. Mission accomplished, I guess.
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blarzgh posted:Got a good one. What the hell is wrong with this profession
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# ? Aug 20, 2018 23:29 |
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I thought our career services were pretty good and helpful, to the extent that I could be helped by anyone. Gave me good advice on resumes and interviews, even hooked me up with a phone interview in 1L. I've been asked to hold a talk and share my experiences when I return to class.
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blarzgh posted:Got a good one. Winning more in discovery sanctions than their putative claim is worth sounds like a fun side quest in this game.
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Throatwarbler did it right and I did it wrong. It doesn’t matter if you are a good person or have good intentions. All that matters is you know the right people and do the right dance. You can insult the largest religion in the profession so long as you play the game.
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Throatwarbler posted:I thought our career services were pretty good and helpful, to the extent that I could be helped by anyone. Gave me good advice on resumes and interviews, even hooked me up with a phone interview in 1L. You are a loving monster.
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I know, right? He could at least post the emails.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 00:16 |
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I used to do so much interviewing for call backs. Thank god I never had to go do OCI. I actually won't reject people automatically for asking about work-life balance but I am very honest with people who ask about it. I tell them there is no such thing and any biglaw firm that talks about it or claims that they are a lifestyle firm are a bunch of loving liars. I got an interview manual for my firm and the list of questions that I'm not allowed to ask candidates is amazingly long. We've generally done the academic screening and one interview by the time I see them. My main concerns are could I stand being stuck in a conference room late with this person, is this someone who I can present to clients, does this person have some degree of maturity and judgment, would they be a good fit for the firm/profession, and are they actually interested in the firm.
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Throatwarbler posted:I thought our career services were pretty good and helpful, to the extent that I could be helped by anyone. Gave me good advice on resumes and interviews, even hooked me up with a phone interview in 1L. You had a good run but you jumped the shark with the slavery comments and now we are in that last season where no one gives a poo poo any more and the story lines are stupid
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:You are a loving monster. He's a lying troll. There's no way that happened
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 00:33 |
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Mods please change the thread name, dude is full of poo poo
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 00:36 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Throatwarbler did it right and I did it wrong. It doesn’t matter if you are a good person or have good intentions. All that matters is you know the right people and do the right dance. You can insult the largest religion in the profession so long as you play the game. Whoa, who went and insulted Catholicism?
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 01:44 |
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Just another day in weirdlaw. An employee in one of our offices is convinced that there are ghosts in the office, and is very afraid of them. He has begun telling his coworkers about his paranormal experiences, resulting in two camps forming. A large chunk of his colleagues are now super annoyed with him because he is too preoccupied with ghosts to do his job and is causing disruption. A larger chunk of his colleagues are now equally afraid of the ghosts and are too scared to go into certain parts of the building, drastically impacting workplace productivity. I have been asked for legal advice re: how/whether to discipline the disruptor, and what to do about the ghost-fearing employees. This is actually not the first time I've heard stories about there being ghosts in this particular building.
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blarzgh posted:OC: "Well then you're just plain stupid. And if you file a motion to compel, we WILL be asking for our attorneys fees. Take care." I will never understand non-litigators, how can you not want this poo poo in your life
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EwokEntourage posted:You had a good run but you jumped the shark with the slavery comments and now we are in that last season where no one gives a poo poo any more and the story lines are stupid I honest to god don't even know why people reply to him anymore, it's gone from subtle fun trolling to the kind of lazy, sloppy poo poo you'd see out of some TTT prosecutor's office in a New England backwater
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Tipps posted:Just another day in weirdlaw. this is your once in a lifetime chance to get paid to draft a motion compelling the ghosts to appear
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Tipps posted:I have been asked for legal advice re: how/whether to discipline the disruptor, and what to do about the ghost-fearing employees. IIRC regular ol' belief in ghosts isn't covered by Title VII, so is the advice to prank him real good before firing him or what?
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Tipps posted:Just another day in weirdlaw. If there's one thing King of Dragon Pass taught me, it is that you need to launch a legal claim against the ghosts.
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Adar posted:this is your once in a lifetime chance to get paid to draft a motion compelling the ghosts to appear It will probably be dismissed for service failure but that's the point isn't it.
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nm posted:What do you do with your inmates? Big prison for locally convicted, with a jail near the courthouse for pre-trial detainees. Federal convicts go stateside.
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Meatbag Esq. posted:It will probably be dismissed for service failure but that's the point isn't it.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 07:08 |
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It's fairly simple, using time-honored techniques - *sits hunched over Ouija board* "i...d...o...n...o...t...w...i...s...h...t...o...c...r...e...a...t... AW GODDAMNIT" *flips over board*
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Ghosts? While discussing whether you were required to disclose that a house was haunted, our property professor mentioned that his sister’s house was haunted. He said that you would be sitting in the house and it would feel like everything moved. An older classmate, who had worked as a general contractor before law school, asked where she lived. After being told what part of town it was, she basically said that ya, the water table out there is so high that you can feel it rise and fall. Those houses never should have been built and she’s going to have foundation issues. Last I heard the sister moved. And the houses there all have foundation issues.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 07:41 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:I know, right? He could at least post the emails. Russia, if you’re listening, just post the email, okay?
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TheMadMilkman posted:Ghosts? Lol Evil spirits, shaking the earth beneath our very feet! Angry gods cast bolts of lightning from the sky, splitting the air with thunder! When the mountain spirit makes sex with the fire elemental, his molten seed spews forth from the ground and engulfs the world!
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