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muscles like this! posted:"Yes, sliced." I smiled at that. Then they mentioned the dipping sticks and I broke into a wide grin.
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That really didn't buy enough time there Jimmy EDIT: GALE DarklyDreaming fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Aug 21, 2018 02:49
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Aug 21, 2018 02:49
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Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh this is the best show.
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hello gail
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Holy poo poo. How did I not see Gale coming. This is loving great.
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Look at this deadass boy
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super duper digging this season that loving copier office has produced two great scenes
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I made a very undignified sound when I realized Gale was about to show up
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I can't believe out of all the characters I thought of being on Saul, I NEVER thought of Gail. In hindsight that's crazy of course Gail would be on. Fuckin awesome.
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I just realized something about her: I'm pretty much always surprised by whatever reaction she has. I just can't seem to figure her out, but in a really good, believable sort of way.
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Gail was a delightful surprise. For some reason I never considered the possibility of him showing up even though it makes perfect sense.
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Aug 21, 2018 03:50
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The "Mike and Mando Show" half of this show has a bad case of prequelitis. The reliance on "hey guys, here's [familiar character], please clap" is enough to make George Lucas blush.
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General Dog posted:The "Mike and Mando Show" half of this show has a bad case of prequelitis. The reliance on "hey guys, here's [familiar character], please clap" is enough to make George Lucas blush. Yeah well I clapped so idgaf
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Aug 21, 2018 03:58
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Was Kim crying because she read the letter beforehand and knew Jimmy was bullshiting? It really said "Brother I have hated you since you were born and I am ashamed of you. gently caress you from beyond the grave."
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Sierra Nevadan posted:Was Kim crying because she read the letter beforehand and knew Jimmy was bullshiting? She was crying because she was witnessing the death of Jimmy McGill.
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Sierra Nevadan posted:Was Kim crying because she read the letter beforehand and knew Jimmy was bullshiting? i'm just going to quote the av club because donna bowman said it better than whatever i'd write quote:What this excruciating final scene drives home is that Jimmy really does not understand the consequences of being in a relationship. He has dealt with his Chuck problem as if he is a free agent. But the way he reads that final letter — ice cold, brittle, flippant — shows that he’s turned his heart into stone. And he never even thinks that Kim, who cares for him, wants to be there for him, even tried to protect him from Chuck’s passive-aggressive last twist of the knife, might be hurt by his utter rejection of human feeling. He’s decided to go it alone when it comes to dealing with the past and moving forward. He doesn’t see that this shuts Kim out and makes her feel like a fool for caring, for trying.
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I was confused at first and then after thinking about it I figured she finally put the pieces together that Jimmy doesn't give a poo poo about Chuck's death. If he can emotionally sever himself from his own brother that quickly it raises questions about what she really means to Jimmy.
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quote:What this excruciating final scene drives home is that Jimmy really does not understand the consequences of being in a relationship. He has dealt with his Chuck problem as if he is a free agent. But the way he reads that final letter — ice cold, brittle, flippant — shows that he’s turned his heart into stone. And he never even thinks that Kim, who cares for him, wants to be there for him, even tried to protect him from Chuck’s passive-aggressive last twist of the knife, might be hurt by his utter rejection of human feeling. He’s decided to go it alone when it comes to dealing with the past and moving forward. He doesn’t see that this shuts Kim out and makes her feel like a fool for caring, for trying. Chuck was an rear end in a top hat to Jimmy his whole life. And it's been months (?) show time since Chuck said those nasty things. Jimmy scams people, takes shortcuts through life, and rarely suffers the consequence or feels guilt. Jimmy is a user and other people pay for it. He's the protagonist so we want to like and sympathize but the truth is, Chuck was right about Jimmy. Jimmy's heart didn't turn to stone suddenly after Chuck died, it's been turning to stone his whole life.
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eke out posted:i'm just going to quote the av club because donna bowman said it better than whatever i'd write Yeah I'd say they nailed it. We're seeing the beginning of what will ultimately end their relationship, something that we've known all along was coming eventually.
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Aug 21, 2018 06:56
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Holy poo poo that guy got scammed by a Kirby vacuum salesman. Jimmy was right about him. Also, this episode seemed to end really abruptly. Jimmy reads the letter, Kim realizes he's become a sociopath and then it just ends.
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Rewatching old scenes, and this one in particular is eerily prophetic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azbw8xsFPg Not necessarily what Jimmy says to Chuck, which turned out only to be half-true, but what Chuck says to Jimmy. quote:That's why I'm doing this, not to punish you, to show you, truly show you, that you have to make a change before it's too late. Before you destroy yourself, or someone else. And I believe you can change. You'll find your path. And when you're ready, I will be there to help you walk that path. Looks like it's too late, Chuck.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:Gus hasn’t been a villain in the context of BCS until the last few minutes of the last episode, and writing that thought down has helped me figure out why his inclusion in the show hasn’t worked for me so far. Now that Nacho’s rear end is in the jackpot, I’m interested to see if the show is going to torch the sympathy and goodwill we have for Mike, knowing how loyal he ends up to Gus even though he knows the man to be a psychopath. Old post, but  at this phrase escaping the MLB thread
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That is an odd letter and seems to not be at all anything that Chuck's character would write. Seems there is a good chance the reason for Kim getting upset and the cliffhanger is that the letter is not actually from Chuck and Kim swapped it out.
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:That is an odd letter and seems to not be at all anything that Chuck's character would write. Seems there is a good chance the reason for Kim getting upset and the cliffhanger is that the letter is not actually from Chuck and Kim swapped it out. I’m thinking this too. Chuck probably wrote a really nasty letter before killing himself.
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I was trying to remember why the burglar was familiar, and looked it up. He's the guy who ran the front end of Vamonos Pest.
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The letter scene had a kind of twist: that the letter seemed genuinely heartfelt (because it came from a time when Chuck and Jimmy were on better terms). It's a crazy complicated situation emotionally, it should be super hard to read given everything that's happened. The fact that Jimmy walled himself off from engaging emotionally with it at all was hard for Kim to watch. There's no reason to think Chuck didn't write that letter. As long as he could maintain a distance of superiority, he'd treat his brother well. He convinced himself that his behavior towards Jimmy was motivated 100% by kindness, rationalizing away the less honorable feelings and folding them into the more reasonable ones. He had it in him to write a nice letter. Especially back when Jimmy was still working in the mail room. Willing Jimmy a letter written back then, from when he "showed promise" in Chuck's eyes, was an A+ passive-aggressive move. Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:I’m thinking this too. Chuck probably wrote a really nasty letter before killing himself. It is either this or guilt. She had that little meltdown at Mesa Verde and it could be that she is sort of able to draw a line of causation between her success and how she got there, basically by driving chuck even more nuts to the point that he embarrassed himself in public, lost his job over the insurance and killed himself.
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I don't know if you guys were watching the same show I did, but Jimmy is clearly not ok. His hand is trembling throughout the whole will segment and he's reading the letter slowly and deliberately, stumbling and stuttering. That's not Saul Goodman, that's misguided little brother James McGill. Kim isn't upset that he's a sociopath; she's upset that he's hurting and not letting her in. It's a pretty common reaction to grief, and it's one of the hardest to deal with. Incidentally, did anyone float the idea that Gus and Gale were romantically involved during BB? It would give a whole new angle to the events of Box Cutter without detracting from Fring's character. It's never crossed my mind before, but this scene just gave me some vibes, man. E: I thought that the Mesa Verde stuff was just Kim realizing it was too much work for her to handle while also trying to look after a man who refuses to ask for help, but I could also see it being guilt over having stolen it from a man as part of a chain of events that lead to his death. That part I agree with. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Anyone else find the idea of a tweaking Gail working on his super-xanax just  af? I mean that's how we're supposed to read that scene right?
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timp posted:Holy poo poo. How did I not see Gale coming. This is loving great. I wasn't expecting it just because Gale's actor has been killing it on Billions lately with a big ol' beard and I didn't think they'd be able to get him or maybe wouldn't want him with a beard on, but they made it work and man it was fun to see him. It makes sense that you could get just about anyone for what had to be a literal one day of shooting though. Also someone said earlier that Gilligan and co. don't waste time on dropping shoes and boy they didn't here with that letter. Between seeing Jimmy be so cold and being overwhelmed with Mesa Verde the best I can hope for her is that she severs from Jimmy and I dunno, hires a few more paralegals to held handle her workload for awhile, at least until she's back up on her feet. The letter was also basically what I expected, having it be from when they were on far better terms was a smart way to go.
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While I think part of what upset Kim is how Jimmy was reading the letter so nonchalantly, I think it was also upsetting to her that she had completely come to expect the absolute worse from Chuck - the letter was not, as she had predicted, "one last gently caress you from beyond the grave." It's a complicated situation, but she probably felt like a total rear end in a top hat after trashing the dead dude that it turned out just had some kinda nice things to say. Jimmy reading the letter while Kim was choking up, going through everything that Jimmy was 'supposed' to feel was an amazing scene. Knocked me for six, I had a strong man cry after credits. Dunno what I expected from the letter but, like Kim, it wasn't that. Chadzok fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I don't know if you guys were watching the same show I did, but Jimmy is clearly not ok. His hand is trembling throughout the whole will segment and he's reading the letter slowly and deliberately, stumbling and stuttering. That's not Saul Goodman, that's misguided little brother James McGill. Kim isn't upset that he's a sociopath; she's upset that he's hurting and not letting her in. It's a pretty common reaction to grief, and it's one of the hardest to deal with. Yeah you must be watching a different show because that is not at all how that scene played out. Chadzok posted:While I think part of what upset Kim is how Jimmy was reading the letter so nonchalantly, I think it was also upsetting to her that she had completely come to expect the absolute worse from Chuck - the letter was not, as she had predicted, "one last gently caress you from beyond the grave." It's a complicated situation, but she probably felt like a total rear end in a top hat after trashing the dead dude that it turned out just had some kinda nice things to say. This is what I think as well. She just got hit by a ton of emotion as she realized the letter was not a bad thing.
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