exquisite tea posted:My post history itt is like what Shepard must have felt trying to warn the Council about the Reapers for two years. i get to be garrus then
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Between No Man's Sky and Andromeda it's interesting how all these games about exploring new things no one's seen before are secretly about rediscovering everything everyone else has seen and been around for centuries. It's even a plot point in NMS how the entire galaxy is post-apocalypse; the robots on each planet that keep annoying you destroyed all of civilization everywhere. You're not discovering new planets - you're finding the old ones.
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Aug 16, 2018 13:26
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Andromeda would have been a lot more interesting if the fleet had somehow whoopsied into the dark space where the reapers usually lurked between cycles.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:01
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Iron Crowned posted:If I could forget 90% of Andromeda I'd like it as much as you do too! It was kinda funny reading my old posts and seeing myself go from "The UI designer needs to be fed into a woodchipper but otherwise this is pretty fun!" to "This is a deeply flawed game but on the whole, solidly above average" to "I played a second time, and... none of my choices ended up mattering beyond the odd line of dialogue," to "What a dumpster fire."
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Aug 16, 2018 14:16
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Andromeda would have been a lot more interesting if the fleet had somehow whoopsied into the dark space where the reapers usually lurked between cycles. When they say "dark space", all they mean is the empty space between galaxies where there are no stars.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:17
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:i get to be garrus then We wanted sick-nasty but instead got sick, nasty.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:23
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Neddy Seagoon posted:When they say "dark space", all they mean is the empty space between galaxies where there are no stars. Yeah, I know. There’s dark space between the Milky Way and Andromeda, they haven’t collided yet. The reapers could have had SOMETHING there. Maybe it’s dark because the stars were Dyson Sphere’d or something.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:40
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Garth Merenghi's Dark Space
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Aug 16, 2018 15:42
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I'd bet money the andromeda writers didnt understand what the original triology meant by dark space; and assumed it was some mystical OTHER dimension where the Reapers lived
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Aug 16, 2018 15:56
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RBA Starblade posted:Garth Merenghi's Dark Space Shepard does love to give out knuckle suppers
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Aug 16, 2018 15:59
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Andromeda would have been a lot more interesting if the fleet had somehow whoopsied into the dark space where the reapers usually lurked between cycles. Or had more than one new kind of alien
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Aug 16, 2018 16:02
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Thinking of ways Andromeda could have been better is one conversation where everybody gets to be right.
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Aug 16, 2018 16:05
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I think the worst part of all of this is image what the game could have been if upper management didn't try to create No Man's Sky for 4 years and then poo poo out ME:A at the last second once they realized it was never going to happen. Like instead Bioware/EA just made ME:A for 3 to 4 years and cashed in on a rock solid franchise.
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Aug 16, 2018 16:05
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exquisite tea posted:Thinking of ways Andromeda could have been better is one conversation where everybody gets to be right. I mean, yeah, they could have stuffed the case with rat turds and it would be better than what we got
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Aug 16, 2018 16:13
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, I know. There’s dark space between the Milky Way and Andromeda, they haven’t collided yet. There are no stars between galaxies. There is literally nothing between them. The Reapers just sit and wait out there while treating the Milky Way galaxy like a petrie dish, growing cultures for 50,000 years before sterilizing and starting over. corn in the bible posted:Or had more than one new kind of alien Oh wow, a new race and we can't understand what they're saying! And it's a real first-contact situation to boot! I guess we're going to have to try to find some way to communicate with their leaders to establish relatio-oh suddenly the translators work the moment we're in the room with their leaders. And they've been interacting with the Exiles for over a year now. How thrilling  .
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Aug 16, 2018 17:06
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It's sad because BioWare has done the first contact communications barrier thing better already with HK-47 and the Sandpeople
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Aug 16, 2018 17:18
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Neddy Seagoon posted:How thrilling 2.5 million light years travel *Reused asset human prefab tavern* “well met, traveler!”
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Aug 16, 2018 17:24
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Wasn't there even some talk that it might be an interesting take on Columbus, invading the New World and taking it from the ~primitive locals~ (weren't the aliens in MEA literally red-skinned?  ), but then they kind of just let that wither on the vine and never did anything with that concept?
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Aug 16, 2018 17:28
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The cat people have all the same face
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Aug 16, 2018 17:29
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There are no stars between galaxies. There is literally nothing between them. That's overstating things a bit. There's plenty of stuff between galaxies. It's just on average the average density of intergalactic space is extremely diffuse, much more so than the average density of space inside a galaxy. Basically, you'd expect to find an atom every cubic meter or so, on average. But there's of course random gas clouds, planetoids, even a bunch of rogue stars ejected from their galaxies through gravitational interactions. In the gigantic vastness of millions upon millions of light years, though, it's pretty drat empty.
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Aug 16, 2018 17:29
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wasn't there even some talk that it might be an interesting take on Columbus, invading the New World and taking it from the ~primitive locals~ (weren't the aliens in MEA literally red-skinned? It’s probably for the best that this writing team didn’t try to tackle that
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Aug 16, 2018 17:32
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ashpanash posted:That's overstating things a bit. There's plenty of stuff between galaxies. It's just on average the average density of intergalactic space is extremely diffuse, much more so than the average density of space inside a galaxy. There's also all of the crap we cannot see yet because our detection equipment isn't sophisticated enough. Still ~95% of the universe unaccounted for.  Ainsley McTree posted:It’s probably for the best that this writing team didn’t try to tackle that Yeah, definitely not the same team that thought ~my face~ was a good line.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wasn't there even some talk that it might be an interesting take on Columbus, invading the New World and taking it from the ~primitive locals~ (weren't the aliens in MEA literally red-skinned? Oh that premise is very much alive, but it's just the subtle undertone of the story's stupidity. "We have flown here direct from the Milky Way and OH NO, HOW COULD WE EVER HAVE KNOWN THIS SCOURGE WOULD BE HERE FROM OUR SIX-HUNDRED-YEAR OLD DATA?!! Oh no, our Arks all got separated because they flew to separate destinations in a whole new galaxy we know nothing about and now we don't know where they are. HOW COULD WE HAVE PREDICTED THIS?? We didn't know what to do because the Arks all split up and none of them came to the Nexus, so we settled on a heavily-irradiated desert work but the colony failed so we're trying again on the same heavily-irradiated desert world but a few kilometers down the road from the last place. HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN IT WOULD GO SO BADLY??
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DoctorGonzo posted:The cat people have all the same face Everyone had the same face
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Aug 16, 2018 18:01
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Iron Crowned posted:Everyone had the same face It's very tired.
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Aug 16, 2018 18:04
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There are no stars between galaxies. There is literally nothing between them. The Reapers just sit and wait out there while treating the Milky Way galaxy like a petrie dish, growing cultures for 50,000 years before sterilizing and starting over. Rogue stars are a (rare) thing, and you can always say no one saw it because a Dyson sphere was capturing all the emissions. Hell, have it set in a weird, isolated star system like Banks’ Against a Dark Background.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There are no stars between galaxies. There is literally nothing between them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergalactic_star?wprov=sfti1 HST actually found a ton of them.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wasn't there even some talk that it might be an interesting take on Columbus, invading the New World and taking it from the ~primitive locals~ (weren't the aliens in MEA literally red-skinned? Yeah but I am guessing EA would 100% not be ok with something so ~~controversial~~ as a game explicitly tackling the themes and horrors of colonialism.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wasn't there even some talk that it might be an interesting take on Columbus, invading the New World and taking it from the ~primitive locals~ (weren't the aliens in MEA literally red-skinned? ... have you been checked for color blindness? (They were purple)
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Arcsquad12 posted:It's sad because BioWare has done the first contact communications barrier thing better already with HK-47 and the Sandpeople I always just ended up butchering the sand people, they were animals, and i hate them.
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Aug 16, 2018 22:13
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I always just ended up butchering the sand people, they were animals, and i hate them. I have HK tell me the story of their people and then tell him to translate me "apologizing" for murdering their warriors and stealing their clothes.
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hobbesmaster posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergalactic_star?wprov=sfti1 Huh, there you go  .
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ashpanash posted:I agree. If 'extended cut' had been the actual ending that the game delivered then a lot of the furor would never have happen. Most people would just have shrugged, said 'eh.' and moved on. There would be a few people who absolutely hate it and who absolutely love it constantly fighting about it, but for the most part, it's just mediocre enough to not be complete dogshit. Well, they did fix it and people would still rather be mad about what it was instead of what it is now, even years later I guess. Rosalind posted:A really cool alternative to Kai Leng is if they had brought back whomever you didn't save on Virmire as the antagonist, resurrected via the efforts of the indoctrinated Illusive Man with the help of some Reaper tech. Definitely. Way cooler. Would have to be super indoctrinated though. corn in the bible posted:Or had more than one new kind of alien Well, it had two. Technically.  Ainsley McTree posted:I forget what Ashley's reaction was, probably something racist Ashley's not a racist, thanks.
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You’re welcome
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Well, they did fix it and people would still rather be mad about what it was instead of what it is now, even years later I guess. Uh, they didn't fix it, they just made it slightly less terrible. They don't get to divorce themselves from the consequences of making something truly lovely and then defending it so strongly under a torrent of completely valid criticism, which they blew off as 'entitlement' infringing on their 'artistic integrity'. Months later, they released a shittier ending that would have been fine had it been there in the first place and the above poo poo didn't happen. But No, they don't get to pass off more shoddy, still lazy poo poo and pretend as if they weren't sequestered in a room for months admiring the smell of their own farts. Yeah, I remember the way they behaved and it was infuriating. I'm not giving them credit for apologizing for an open-face poo poo sandwich by giving me a piece of stale, moldy bread to put on top.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Ashley's not a racist, thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9vBZm0iUw&t=73s Not a SpaceRacist posted:Look, if you're fighting a bear and the only way for you to survive is to sick your dog on it and run: you'll do it. As much as you love your dog, it isn't human. It's not racism, not really...members of their species will always be more important to them than humans are." She's literally a racist in her own words and tries to justify that by saying that everyone else in the universe are the ~real~ racists (against humans)... 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:
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