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I mean, they do demonstrate that Killmonger will murder anyone who becomes the slightest inconvenience to him no matter how much they matter to him and has zero thought for what happens after his death. A kind of dictator archetype that Africans would be all too familiar with. But they have him make a few too many good points and also have an agent of the same agency that trained him to be a super war criminal as the wacky comic relief sidekick, so...
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Gonz posted:The liquid nitrogen kill is great. But the rest of Jason X is indeed horrible. The liquid nitrogen kill is legit horrifying. It's the entire series summed up; an intelligent, beautiful woman is killed in a horribly violent manner that targets her face. Optimus Prime would be proud.
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Aug 22, 2018 12:55
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Gatts posted:No, I’m saying Killmonger’s revolution is bad specifically and would have lead to ISIS type situation where he’d remove the system in place but not account for something worse to take hold. He’s just another oppressor. This is known as "propagada".
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Aug 22, 2018 13:00
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean, they do demonstrate that Killmonger will murder anyone who becomes the slightest inconvenience to him no matter how much they matter to him and has zero thought for what happens after his death. A kind of dictator archetype that Africans would be all too familiar with. Killmongers gonna give guns to revolutionaries. Yeah great. What happens when they lash out cause all they are is angry; remove the current institution in power, then manage what sort of transition? What are they building? Leave rubble behind? Take hold of power then kill the differing points of view to sustain it? What’s he actually doing with that point of his to make the world a just and better place? Step one, remove bad people in power...step 2 power vacuum? Step 3 brotherhood? Just cause he’s angry with a point don’t mean much. Kill and eat the rich. Yeah great I agree but then what? What and who is in place after? Last time we had guillotines, what are you doing to ensure in another 300 years we don’t repeat the same poo poo. What generational change and system are you putting in place? And when that system breaks down cause people’s thinking has changed? What then? Another revolution?
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Aug 22, 2018 13:06
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asecondduck posted:What about lists of most disappointing sci-fi films? I really wanted to like Oblivion and it started off good enough but as soon as Morgan Freeman shows up it goes to poo poo. It's not a great action movie but the rest of it rules. Great sound design.
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Aug 22, 2018 13:12
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Gatts posted:Kill and eat the rich. Yeah great I agree but then what? What and who is in place after? Last time we had guillotines, what are you doing to ensure in another 300 years we don’t repeat the same poo poo. What generational change and system are you putting in place? And when that system breaks down cause people’s thinking has changed? What then? Another revolution? Are you saying your gripe with the film is that it didn't spend more time talking about the revolutionary politics of Killmonger? Because if so, I totally agree.
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Aug 22, 2018 13:24
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I'm really very sorry I helped to start this massive derail about two bad movies from senile has-been Ridley Scott If it's any consolation, I wasn't 100% serious with my lists. I was just memeing: SciFiDownBeat posted:Blade Runner 2049 (2017) SciFiDownBeat posted:Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010) Can we talk about Happytime Murders instead?
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Aug 22, 2018 13:24
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The best way to derail a thread is to prompt folks to make lists. It's also the most useless because nobody cares about anyone else's list unless it's a hot take intended to stir poo poo up. Especially when it's all as arbitrary as "Superhero movies don't count as science-fiction. Or horror-sci-fi. Or magical realism."
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Aug 22, 2018 13:33
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Samuel Clemens posted:Are you saying your gripe with the film is that it didn't spend more time talking about the revolutionary politics of Killmonger? Because if so, I totally agree. That’s one of the major problems with the film and Marvel movies. It would have been better to explore and flesh out. The movie is lesser for not having done it cause Killmonger and Jordan’s performance was great.
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Aug 22, 2018 13:37
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feedmyleg posted:The best way to derail a thread is to prompt folks to make lists. It's also the most useless because nobody cares about anyone else's list unless it's a hot take intended to stir poo poo up. Especially when it's all as arbitrary as "Superhero movies don't count as science-fiction. Or horror-sci-fi. Or magical realism." Let's stir poo poo up! 1. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze (1991) 2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) 3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows (2016) 4. TMNT (2007) 5. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) 6. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III (1993)
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Live action films based on fighting/beat em up video games 1. Street Fighter 2. Mortal Kombat 3. Mortal Kombat Annihilation 3. Double Dragon 4. Tekken 2 5. Dead or Alive 6. Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li 7. Tekken
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Gatts posted:Killmongers gonna give guns to revolutionaries. Yeah great. What happens when they lash out cause all they are is angry; remove the current institution in power, then manage what sort of transition? What are they building? Leave rubble behind? Take hold of power then kill the differing points of view to sustain it? What’s he actually doing with that point of his to make the world a just and better place? Step one, remove bad people in power...step 2 power vacuum? Step 3 brotherhood? Just cause he’s angry with a point don’t mean much. It's incredibly sad to see the Black Panther name used to denounce revolutions.
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Aug 22, 2018 13:53
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feedmyleg posted:The best way to derail a thread is to prompt folks to make lists. It's also the most useless because nobody cares about anyone else's list unless it's a hot take intended to stir poo poo up. Especially when it's all as arbitrary as "Superhero movies don't count as science-fiction. Or horror-sci-fi. Or magical realism." Yikes, I hosed up by doing that I guess, my bad. Then I went off to my sister's place to help her clean up mouse poo poo and lay some (non-lethal!)traps and didn't come back to the thread until this morning! Nice lists though everybody.
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Aug 22, 2018 13:58
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feedmyleg posted:The best way to derail a thread is to prompt folks to make lists. It's also the most useless because nobody cares about anyone else's list unless it's a hot take intended to stir poo poo up. Especially when it's all as arbitrary as "Superhero movies don't count as science-fiction. Or horror-sci-fi. Or magical realism." Goons HATE him!
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Grendels Dad posted:Let's stir poo poo up! How is II not both 1 and 2 on the list???
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Aug 22, 2018 14:29
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Grendels Dad posted:Let's stir poo poo up! Hard agree. Secret of the Ooze is basically a Bill and Ted movie.
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Is Secret of the Ooze the one where they crash one of Vanilla Ice's concerts, and he spontaneously develops a Ninja Turtles rap? Because that one owns.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:10
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The first two TMNT movies are like Alien and Aliens, different enough that I don't worry about which one is "better" but obviously they're both really good.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:13
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Samuel Clemens posted:Is Secret of the Ooze the one where they crash one of Vanilla Ice's concerts, and he spontaneously develops a Ninja Turtles rap? Because that one owns. Yes, it’s also the one we’re the Turtles we’re not allowed to use their weapons.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:17
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https://twitter.com/scottaukerman/status/1000129078995836928 If you post a serious response to this tweet I will cut you.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:42
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Mierenneuker posted:https://twitter.com/scottaukerman/status/1000129078995836928 My serious response is that you should have screenshotted it because it's deleted now.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:44
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Mierenneuker posted:https://twitter.com/scottaukerman/status/1000129078995836928 It got deleted but I'm guessing that was his Star Wars list? Which I completely agree with BTW.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:44
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Don’t know why it doesn’t show (it still loads in the mobile app), but yes, an undeniable list.
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Aug 22, 2018 15:53
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Funny thing is if you asked me to rank in order of quality my list would probably be roughly the same. Maybe I'd swap Solo and Rogue One
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Aug 22, 2018 15:58
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Mierenneuker posted:Don’t know why it doesn’t show (it still loads in the mobile app), but yes, an undeniable list. No Holiday Special or Ewok-films. This list is bullshit!
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Aug 22, 2018 15:59
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Mierenneuker posted:Don’t know why it doesn’t show (it still loads in the mobile app), but yes, an undeniable list. Chronological order is not a ranking
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Aug 22, 2018 16:07
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Iron Crowned posted:Chronological order is not a ranking The joke is/was that a lot of people didn't understand that was what he was doing, and kept arguing about placement and how could you, etc. It took a while for it to sink in.
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Aug 22, 2018 16:09
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UNDENIABLE LIST
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Aug 22, 2018 16:14
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Gonz posted:The liquid nitrogen kill is great. But the rest of Jason X is indeed horrible. Jason X also has a sexy android girl in leather with guns. It’s a very bad movie.
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Aug 22, 2018 16:19
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Taintrunner posted:Jason X also has a sexy android girl in leather with guns. It’s a very bad movie. These two sentences are contradictory
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Aug 22, 2018 16:39
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Mierenneuker posted:Don’t know why it doesn’t show (it still loads in the mobile app), but yes, an undeniable list. I was honestly very surprised that people didn't immediately get the joke but that made it better.
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Aug 22, 2018 16:51
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feedmyleg posted:The best way to derail a thread is to prompt folks to make lists. It's also the most useless because nobody cares about anyone else's list unless it's a hot take intended to stir poo poo up. Lists are fine, but require context. Like if somebody ranks Annihilation as one of the best science fiction films of all time, they should probably have an answer to a question like “why?” Or if the reason ends up being that, like, Ryan Gosling is cute in Blade Runner 2, then it means that we’re not actually talking sci-fi but some kind of venn-diagram overlapping of “set in a future” with a larger circle labelled “cute guys”.
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Iron Crowned posted:Chronological order is not a ranking It doesn't say it's a ranking.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Funny thing is if you asked me to rank in order of quality my list would probably be roughly the same. Maybe I'd swap Solo and Rogue One I'd keep the top two, but then just put an equals sign for everything from three down, so I can shift them around depending on my mood.
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I'm a crazy prequel liker though. I like all Star Wars up until the second half of TFA where it falls apart and is all downhill from there.
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Aug 22, 2018 18:15
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I'm a crazy prequel liker though. I like all Star Wars up until the second half of TFA where it falls apart and is all downhill from there. They're all much of a muchness for me after the first two. They all have parts I enjoy and parts I don't and the latter don't really bother me that much because it's not worth getting worked up over. Like many people, I didn't like the prequels for a while, but then I got over myself (which is something everyone should do with movies and books and television and things) and now I have a good enough time with them. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Yeah when I was 17 I was like "What the gently caress is this stupid announcer guy with two heads calling the race this is stupid corny poo poo why did they make this" and now I'm 36 and I'm like " Hah, this two headed announcer alien... He's a wacky dude. I bet they get in arguments at home, I bet one is a neat freak and one is messy. Whoa did Jabba just eat a space rat like an apple? Haha yeah I bet Jabba would do that. Mind tricks don't work on you only money? Same."
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Aug 22, 2018 18:45
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sponges posted:lol Jason X is so whacky! It's an awesome horror comedy.
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Aug 22, 2018 18:48
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Yeah when I was 17 I was like "What the gently caress is this stupid announcer guy with two heads calling the race this is stupid corny poo poo why did they make this" and now I'm 36 and I'm like " Hah, this two headed announcer alien... He's a wacky dude. I bet they get in arguments at home, I bet one is a neat freak and one is messy. Whoa did Jabba just eat a space rat like an apple? Haha yeah I bet Jabba would do that. Mind tricks don't work on you only money? Same." I think I also read enough bad Star Wars novels as a teenager that I'm inured to most things the movies can do at this point (not everything, but most things). So long as I am entertained for a couple of hours when I watch them I am reasonably content with them.
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Vince MechMahon posted:It's an awesome horror comedy. It's not even the funniest Friday the 13th.
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