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got Agapē Agape in the mail yesterday and i was expecting a 1000 page novel for some reason
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:got Agapē Agape in the mail yesterday and i was expecting a 1000 page novel for some reason gaddis gets shorter as time goes on
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Aug 19, 2018 19:44
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Cross-posting from the recommendations thread:quote:I’ve decided I’m due to continue into Russian lit. Between the two, should I read War and Peace or Brothers Karamazov next? Is one the clear choice if I’m looking for more philosophical/sociological than just story-telling?
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Aug 21, 2018 04:00
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Brothers karamazov. Be sure to pick up the Pevear & Volkhonsky translation and do not listen to any of the vile trolls in this thread
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Aug 21, 2018 04:20
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CestMoi posted:Brothers karamazov. Be sure to pick up the Pevear & Volkhonsky translation and do not listen to any of the vile trolls in this thread I already have their translation of both so we’re good on that front.
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Aug 21, 2018 04:44
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Aug 21, 2018 05:53
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But seriously, War and Peace is a heaving slog and is the opposite of everything great about Anna Karenina and you should take a nice big poo poo on those P&V translations before setting them aflame. I haven't recommended it yet because I don't like the book, but if you do end up reading War and Peace (which I guess you're kinda obligated to at some point), the Ann Dunnigan version is the one to get. Edit: Rolo posted:Is one the clear choice if I’m looking for more philosophical/sociological than just story-telling? Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Aug 21, 2018 05:54
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Briggs is also a decent translation
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Aug 21, 2018 08:04
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Norm Macdonald thinks the P and V translations are the best, and who am I to disagree with him?
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Aug 21, 2018 08:07
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I read Austerlitz and it was indeed a lot more to my taste than Rings of Saturn so cheers whoeversaid that itt maybe
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Aug 21, 2018 09:07
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Ras Het posted:I read Austerlitz and it was indeed a lot more to my taste than Rings of Saturn so cheers whoeversaid that itt maybe Now read Vertigo 
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Aug 21, 2018 10:44
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Maybe some day. Now im raeding Splendeurs et misères des courtisanes
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Aug 21, 2018 10:47
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Get thee away from Ball-sack
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Aug 21, 2018 11:15
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My preferred Sebalds, in order: 1. The Rings of Saturn 2. The Emigrants 3. Austerlitz 4. Vertigo 5. On the Natural History of Destruction 6. A Place in the Country If there's more, I haven't read them. I haven't felt such a mania for a single author since I read At Swim-Two-Birds.
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Aug 21, 2018 13:42
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Sham bam bamina! posted:But seriously, War and Peace is a heaving slog and is the opposite of everything great about Anna Karenina and you should take a nice big poo poo on those P&V translations before setting them aflame. I absolutely loved both Crime and Punishment and War and Peace, for what it's worth. It didn't feel like a slog at all to me, but then again I don't mind the author being sidetracked by long speeches about philosophy, Great Leaders or the forces of History.
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Aug 21, 2018 13:54
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I just read Wittgenstein's Nephew and i recommend it if you want a nice short injection of Bernhard into your brain.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:07
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Sham bam bamina! posted:...should take a nice big poo poo on those P&V translations before setting them aflame. Ok, I know this gets argued a lot but what’s your take on the better one? E: I like my kindle for large heavy books, looks like on this I can go P+V, Garnett, Avsey or McDuff. Rolo fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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Aug 21, 2018 15:29
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A human heart posted:I just read Wittgenstein's Nephew and i recommend it if you want a nice short injection of Bernhard into your brain. i thought it was pleasant, but then i decided to read dfw's afterward and it made me maddddd
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Aug 21, 2018 16:00
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Tree Goat posted:i thought it was pleasant, but then i decided to read dfw's afterward and it made me maddddd critical error, my dude
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Aug 21, 2018 17:17
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Tree Goat posted:i decided to read dfw well there's yer problem
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Aug 21, 2018 17:36
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Rolo posted:Ok, I know this gets argued a lot but what’s your take on the better one? I don't know if there's a way to get the Magarshack translation (my favorite by a comfortable margin) on your Kindle, but if there isn't, it conveniently sidesteps the issue of size by being split into two unassuming Penguin paperbacks that are dirt-cheap online. 
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Aug 21, 2018 18:35
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i've been really enjoying elfriede jelinek's books did anyone ever watch her lost highway opera?
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Aug 21, 2018 20:43
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Elman posted:I absolutely loved both Crime and Punishment and War and Peace, for what it's worth. It didn't feel like a slog at all to me, but then again I don't mind the author being sidetracked by long speeches about philosophy, Great Leaders or the forces of History. You would probably not mind Les Misérables then, if you haven't read it, as it puts big bold ticks all three of those boxes. Hugo rambles a lot about his views on society, and at one point apropos of nothing (from what I recall - quite a while since I read it) it includes an account of Hugo visiting the site of Waterloo, before turning into an account of the battle itself and Hugo's musings on the reason the outcome. Wonderful, wonderful book, though with a beautiful and compelling story. I've not ready any Tolstoy, but I found Crime and Punishment to actually be quite snappily paced as novels of its ilk go, and definitely in comparison to Brothers Karamazov, which I remember enjoying but finding it tougher going. Would no doubt appreciate them better now, 20 years later, if I ever happened to get round to re-reading either.
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Aug 21, 2018 23:54
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I will never forgive Hugo for so breezily dismissing communism in Les Miserables.
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Aug 22, 2018 00:07
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Tree Goat posted:i thought it was pleasant, but then i decided to read dfw's afterward and it made me maddddd Fortunately my copy didn't have this disgusting American interloper's opinions in it VileLL posted:i've been really enjoying elfriede jelinek's books She's cool and her big mega book The Children of the Dead is finally coming out in English soon(next year i think although the snippets of info saying this online seem to have vanished so maybe it's delayed).
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Aug 22, 2018 01:04
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Tree Goat posted:i thought it was pleasant, but then i decided to read dfw's afterward and it made me maddddd are you thinking of Wittgenstein's Mistress or did he literally write an afterword to both those books lmfao
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Aug 22, 2018 22:27
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Jeep posted:are you thinking of Wittgenstein's Mistress or did he literally write an afterword to both those books lmfao hey, (1) his afterword to WM was originally a journal article, (2) it freaking owned and remains to this day probably the most insightful and illuminating bit of ancillary matter I've ever read in a book that wasn't explicitly a "critical edition." He went to the mat for a book that no one had read and an author no one cared about, he didn't just wank over Don DeLillo's latest brick. And it wasn't a "look at this overlooked Art" puff-piece, either, it was an original and deeply personal analysis of a formally unique and difficult novel. Whatever you think about the man DFW (or his fans), he was no slouch as a scholar and his essay made a drat good afterword.
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Aug 22, 2018 22:42
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Jeep posted:are you thinking of Wittgenstein's Mistress or did he literally write an afterword to both those books lmfao yes, i was talking about WM because i read it more recently than WN
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Aug 23, 2018 00:00
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Aug 23, 2018 00:00
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I think I'll trust the take on Wallace's afterword from the guy who can spell "afterword".
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Aug 23, 2018 00:09
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I think I'll trust the take on Wallace's afterword from the guy who can spell "afterword". sounds like u might want to read "authority and american usage" my friend
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Aug 23, 2018 00:17
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I'm shaking my damned head.
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Aug 23, 2018 00:31
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Edit: dratèd
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Aug 23, 2018 00:32
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Tree Goat posted:sounds like u might want to read "authority and american usage" my friend
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Aug 23, 2018 00:55
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:My preferred Sebalds, in order: I wish he would have lived a little longer  e: Campo Santo is not on your list, or his poetry.
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Aug 23, 2018 01:01
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Sounds like you're a little bitch. this is water
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Aug 23, 2018 01:11
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Is Golding's Pincher Martin good? I only have that and Vann's Aquarium here rn, but I'm not sure I want to fall into Mel's lizardman trap.
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Aug 23, 2018 15:56
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Burning Rain posted:Is Golding's Pincher Martin good? I only have that and Vann's Aquarium here rn, but I'm not sure I want to fall into Mel's lizardman trap. Do it pussy
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Aug 23, 2018 16:10
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Just picked up Dictionary of Maqiao which is a book written as a series of dictionary entries that develop into a story through their amalgamation written by someone who claims to have never read Dictionary of the Khazars
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hello. i am in the middle of satantango and it is V good. i'm also in poisonwood bible which is great fun i also read tolstoy's resurrection because it was short. it was enjoyable. i also read the castle and didn't 'get' it very much. thought it was mostly boring. maybe max really should have burned that one okay bye.
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