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Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

StandardVC10 posted:

"There aren't any barns out over the ocean, it's fine." - the Marineflieger, probably

I was going to say residual Kriegsmarine-Luftwaffe rivalry

Also this is one competition where I think we all win

https://io9.gizmodo.com/lego-batman-superman-and-emmet-star-in-the-best-airpl-1828025161

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Duke Chin posted:

The plane's too heavy! We're going to have to jettison some weight!!!

[Looks at fuel dump switch... Looks at Post Malone... Looks at fuel dump switch... Looks back at Post Malone...]

Can Gulfstreams dump fuel?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Platystemon posted:

Can Gulfstreams dump fuel?

Pretty sure no GIV or G5 or any of the sub-models can.

They have pretty advanced over-G/rough landing detection, though.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Duke Chin posted:

The plane's too heavy! We're going to have to jettison some weight!!!

[Looks at fuel dump switch... Looks at Post Malone... Looks at fuel dump switch... Looks back at Post Malone...]

Start dumping fuel. Jettison Post Malone tied to a string of lit matches.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


StandardVC10 posted:

"There aren't any barns out over the ocean, it's fine." - the Marineflieger, probably

The danger with trademarking "The missile with a man in it" is that sometimes tone is lost when documents are translated

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

Platystemon posted:

Can Gulfstreams dump fuel?

No. Pretty much any aircraft up to the B757, you just land overweight. It's not a huge deal. When your payload is only 30% of your max T/O weight, then you have to be able to dump fuel to land safely.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Even then, there are emergencies that would necessitate not dumping fuel and landing overweight regardless of aircraft type, such as fire. Just remember that Swissair 111 wasted a bunch of time dumping fuel instead of proceeding direct to a suitable airport.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


If they're worried about an emergency landing and have excess fuel they can't dump, they usually just fly in circles for a while

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



My dad's RV-4 parked next to a P-51. They're uhh, big.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


P-51s are relatively bantamweight, if not quite Yak-9/Bf-109/Spitfire class--P-47s are big :btroll:


F-4s, F-4s are also big :btroll::btroll::btroll:

HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Aug 22, 2018

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

HookedOnChthonics posted:

P-51s are relatively bantamweight, if not quite Yak-9/Bf-109/Spitfire class--P-47s are big :btroll:


F-4s, F-4s are also big :btroll::btroll::btroll:

No no no, you're supposed to do the barrel roll immediately after takeoff, not landing!

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Looks like Iran is now making a home brewed Mig 28

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/iran-unveils-fighter-jet-tasnim-news-agency-045634088.html

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Something something Top Gun 2.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

shame on an IGA posted:

A gulfstream carrying 16 people including Post Malone is headed for an emergency landing at Westfield-Barnes Regional in CT after blowing two tires on takeoff

I had no idea who this was, so I googled is and now :chloe:

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Megillah Gorilla posted:

I had no idea who this was, so I googled is and now :chloe:



:justpost:

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

gently caress

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!

HookedOnChthonics posted:

P-51s are relatively bantamweight, if not quite Yak-9/Bf-109/Spitfire class--P-47s are big :btroll:


F-4s, F-4s are also big :btroll::btroll::btroll:

Well did they stop the barrel before it went off the side? We have to know!

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Megillah Gorilla posted:

I had no idea who this was, so I googled is and now :chloe:



My brain said "some sort of goon shitposter"

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007


To be fair, this is the third time they've "debuted" a warmed-over F-5. One time they even tried something new and added two tails!

I'm on my phone so I can't post photos, but when I was googling about this story I also found images of what looked like an Iranian-built MiG-AT, anyone know anything about that?

Phanatic posted:

Ah, yes. Your pilot's flying at low altitude, in an F-104, and you give him a missile that requires him to visually observe both the missile and his target, control the missile with a little joystick, and fly his plane all at the same time.

Forget about Lockheed's prostitutes, the German navy must have hated its pilots and wanted them all to die.

Old former WW2 Luftwaffe who thought the X-4 missile would work on a single-seat fighter?

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

To be fair, this is the third time they've "debuted" a warmed-over F-5. One time they even tried something new and added two tails!

To be, uh, fairer, if you're going to keep rehashing a design you could do a lot worse than the F-5. The thing is like the platonic ideal of a sleek fighter jet.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Amerika Bombers 1945: Look Busy and Hope the Americans Capture You



The death of the Luftwaffe as a effective force is dated by historians to Operation 'Baseplate', which happened on January 1st, 1945. This was the last large coordinated action by the Luftwaffe, and not coincidentally, also its single greatest day of losses.

Hitler was among other things a gambler, and the 'Watch on the Rhine' winter offensive, later known as the Battle of the Bulge, of ‘44 and early ‘45 was his last “all in” bet, taking his last reserves of men and material to try and make a comeback. While the Luftwaffe was being ground down by constant losses in the fall of ‘44, General Adolf Galland, the Inspector-General of Fighters, was husbanding what fuel he could for “the big sweep”, a moment when the Allies would send a 1000 bomber raid at Germany, and every Luftwaffe fighter extant would take off to intercept the bomber stream, hopefully overwhelming escorts and doing heavy damage to the strategic bombing force. Hitler noticed these reserves and assigned them into the last roll of the dice. While understandable, this move caused consternation among Galland and the Luftwaffe Generals. The reserves Galland had been saving were fighters, ones made in the production emergency of the summer of `44, and most of the pilots were trained as fighter pilots. Hitler mashed all these reserves into ground support with literally no training in ground support.

“Baseplate” was a planned operation to support “Watch on the Rhine”. On the first day of the offensive, 1000 fighters would simultaneously attack the ten nearest Allied air bases, hopefully surprising aircraft on the ground and crippling the marauding fighter-bomber wings that had been such a drag on Army maneuvering. The plan also was timed to take place in the worst of the winter weather, that would hopefully ground the Allied air forces entirely.

The Germans, through strict operational security managed total surprise on the opening day of the offensive, December 16th, 1944. But the signal for “Baseplate” was never given. All day on December 16th, a heavy fog hid the ground, and “Baseplate” was put on hold. None the less, the Luftwaffe, flying extra-low to fox Allied radar managed some 600 sorties to support troops on the ground, and flew around 300 sorties that night, using even night fighters to attack Allied columns. The Luftwaffe also attempted to land paratroops that evening, and this was a fiasco, unless you like the phrase “literally scattered by the wind.” [footnote 1] Then the weather closed in completely.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004


FYI it's "Horten" with an "e".

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Craptacular posted:

FYI it's "Horten" with an "e".

:weeps like a small, broken child:

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Craptacular posted:

FYI it's "Horten" with an "e".

Horten hears a Whe?

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Not to pile on, but I noticed this also;

quote:

On the 25th of December 1945, Allied Ground forces went on the offensive.

I will always unironically love posts about flying wings, that post is cool as poo poo.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



An American tradition, crossing frozen rivers on Christmas to kill Germans.

But yeah, ‘44.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Love the write up as usual but I think you need another editing pass; there were some awkward sentences in places. Also the font size alternated a few times on iOS. Looking forward to the next part :stoked:

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
I went to read Achtung Zeppelin from the beginning and the pics are broken :(

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Wingnut Ninja posted:

To be, uh, fairer, if you're going to keep rehashing a design you could do a lot worse than the F-5. The thing is like the platonic ideal of a sleek fighter jet.

And it was obsolete in the mid 1970s. All of Iran's potential adversaries have vastly superior aircraft in superior numbers. Most of them have superior training (which is generally ignored or immediately brain-dumped upon graduation).

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Fortunately for Iran, their main regional adversaries are busy slamming their dicks in Yemen

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Godholio posted:

And it was obsolete in the mid 1970s. All of Iran's potential adversaries have vastly superior aircraft in superior numbers. Most of them have superior training (which is generally ignored or immediately brain-dumped upon graduation).

Oh yeah, absolutely. I was just talking about looks.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


But like, to be fair, if you were absolute dictator of a reasonably technical medium sized nation with a withered air force and you were seeking to remedy that using entirely indigenous capacity, wouldn't addressing the training shortfall before the strike capability be the best path forwards?


INTJ Mastermind posted:

Well did they stop the barrel before it went off the side? We have to know!

https://youtu.be/cALccuPShQc?t=951
barrel makes it out ok!!!

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

HookedOnChthonics posted:

But like, to be fair, if you were absolute dictator of a reasonably technical medium sized nation with a withered air force and you were seeking to remedy that using entirely indigenous capacity, wouldn't addressing the training shortfall before the strike capability be the best path forwards?

A very competent military is a threat to you and your power base.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Oh yeah, absolutely. I was just talking about looks.

In that case I completely agree, and F-5s are one of the few things I miss about Fallon. Especially the black/red ones. :fap:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

MRC48B posted:

A very competent military is a threat to you and your power base.

This is why you have two militaries.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:


Love this stuff man :)

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

https://twitter.com/HRD_AOML_NOAA/status/1032322750998704128

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
https://i.imgur.com/NVO7KcT.mp4

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005
Has anyone seen more details about what happened there? Since you can see the pilot side door open during the video, I have to wonder if someone didn't accidentally raise the collective to start that whole mess, since it looks like simply dumping the collective throughout most of that sequence would have done nothing more serious than cause a hard landing.

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





azflyboy posted:

Has anyone seen more details about what happened there? Since you can see the pilot side door open during the video, I have to wonder if someone didn't accidentally raise the collective to start that whole mess, since it looks like simply dumping the collective throughout most of that sequence would have done nothing more serious than cause a hard landing.

Also looks like the engine cowling on the left side isn't latched, you can briefly see it fly open. Maintenance run-up gone bad?

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