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It's not so much that Mike Evans is a straight-up 'do not draft' for me, it's just that I'm not interested in drafting him at the auction price I know he's going to command
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Spoeank posted:Mike Evans is a late third round pick masquerading as a late second. Hot move averaging out his stupid rear end touchdowns I'm real glad I backed him up by also taking Carson. also obligatory fat joke: More like Rashaad Penny, Nickle, Dime the Quarter Mr Goodcents for those sensible meals
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Aug 22, 2018 20:01
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Matt Zerella posted:Mike Evans: never again 
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Aug 22, 2018 20:28
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ketchup vs catsup posted:Auction league, standard $200 budget. How many teams are in the league?
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89 posted:What do you guys think of Devonta Freeman and Mike Evans? Poop and more poop E: My hot taek from a few pages ago: Suave Fedora posted:Call me a spurned last-season Evans owner, but I’m not picking up any shares unless it’s a ridiculous value, like 3rd round. I’m concerned about him not getting support from his QB or offense in general. By “support” I mean fantasy points generation. You need a good QB behind a good offensive line behind a good offensive scheme/coordinator/etc and that’s been missing from the Bucs for far too long. What’s changed since last year? Suave Fedora fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Aug 22, 2018 21:09
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At least once per day I look at the picture of my draft board and hate myself for picking Ronald Jones in the 7th.
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Mike Evan's main advantage has been that Jameis Winston targets him an absurd amount - his catch percentage swings between 50% and 55%. Last year his targets dropped from 173 to 136, and he fell to 1001 yards and 5 TDs. A 50 to 55% catch rate is fairly mediocre. It's worse than the catch rate of most of his competition for targets, like Brate, Godwin, Humphries... it's about par with DeSean Jackson. So the question for Evans is really: is he going to see his target volume rise compared to last season? Winston's suspended for 3 games to start the season. If you want Evans I'd consider letting someone else draft him and then buy low in week 3. Although they face the bears week 4 and then have a bye week 5, so that could go either way. I've got him on my dynasty team with a $41 salary ($250 salary cap) and I'm pretty ambivalent about his value at that price point.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:33
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Suave Fedora posted:Poop and more poop The Bucs could have a better Oline than last year with Ryan Jensen being signed and Ali Marpet moving back to guard. Our RBs did not get any better but they didn't get any worse, unfortunately that means they are still bad. Jameis is suspended 3 games this year but he was hurt for 10 last year. Last year was Mike Evans' floor, and he still put up 1,000 yards. Evans is extremely talented. Evans on the Steelers or Packers would be a first overall pick. Evans on the Bucs is still a WR1. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:At least once per day I look at the picture of my draft board and hate myself for picking Ronald Jones in the 7th. He was my first pick of the rookie draft for my dynasty league and it suuuucckkkkssss.
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Suave Fedora posted:Poop and more poop I mean, in 2016 Evans had 96-1320-12. Did the Bucs team meet your criteria then?
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I actually didn't realize that he was WR1 in my league in 2016. He still had the 7th-highest auction cost among WRs ($39, tied with Jordy Nelson). In 2017, he was WR22 and had the fourth-highest cost ($54). If I could get him at the cost of WR22 in 2018, I would probably do it, but I don't expect his cost to drop all that much. He feels like a high-risk play if you're paying him like a first-round WR.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:43
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He also will not have Winston targeting him a hundred times a game for a couple of games no
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ZenVulgarity posted:He also will not have Winston targeting him a hundred times a game for a couple of games no To which I point out his rookie season where he still put up 1,000 yards with Mike Glennon and Josh McCown throwing to him.
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Evans is going in the third. That's a decent value for his floor/ceiling. People are mad at him for not living up to his ADP last year, but you should be mad at yourselves for overdrafting him. He was always going to regress and having him be one of the first four receivers off the board was crazy.
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Yeah a 1000 yard receiver is worth drafting, but like: crabtree is a 1000 yard receiver. Evans is still going ahead of Hilton, Diggs, Hill, Baldwin... and just behind Keenan Allen and AJ Green. That seems like the right crew to be mixed in with, more or less. I could see him potentially underperforming most of them, though, and I do not see his ceiling as being as high as several of those guys. So he's a risk, he could turn in like a 1000/6 season and not be a total bust, but 3.2 is still in my opinion on the optimistic side of the fence for him.
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah a 1000 yard receiver is worth drafting, but like: crabtree is a 1000 yard receiver. His catch rate is comparable (or worse?) to Cooper. I think they're both a bit further back. I see more competition for him than past years.
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Drunk Nerds posted:How many teams are in the league? 12 teams. I am attempting to trade alex collins for tyreek hill OR alex collins + cj anderson for tom brady
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ketchup vs catsup posted:12 teams. I am attempting to trade Collins for Reek is good, but rescind that offer for Brady if you’ve sent it, that’s bad
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Zauper posted:His catch rate is comparable (or worse?) to Cooper. I think they're both a bit further back. I see more competition for him than past years. I hope this wasn't supposed to be an argument for Evans. 
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Sataere posted:I hope this wasn't supposed to be an argument for Evans. It's an argument for why Evans is overvalued at his ADP. I see him and Cooper as behind the guys he listed, not ahead.
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Don't draft Evans until late 2nd at the earliest. If you don't draft him, then trade for him from the frustrated owner in like week 3. Just because you can't draft him where you want him doesn't mean you can't steal him mid-season.
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Huh Gerronimo Allison on the waiver wire. Mentioned in like every fantasy podcast ever recorded this summer. Worth it? edit: I type this and then the next thing I read is this waah posted:Reports are packers are shopping Randall Cobb. It's never too early to start Player X to New England rumors.
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Zauper posted:It's an argument for why Evans is overvalued at his ADP. I see him and Cooper as behind the guys he listed, not ahead. I wasn't sure because it looked like you were quoting someone who agreed with you, unless I'm misreading that.
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kiimo posted:Huh Gerronimo Allison on the waiver wire. Mentioned in like every fantasy podcast ever recorded this summer. Worth it? Yeah, absolutely grab him.
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Can anyone figure out a Golden Tate/golden showers/presidential reference team name pun?
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veiled boner fuel posted:Can anyone figure out a Golden Tate/golden showers/presidential reference team name pun? Piss Tate Is Real
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Yeah that's pretty A to B there Or P to T, actually
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on the bored wop posted:Piss Tate Is Real I don't even want to try after this 
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GoonTier needs YOU! 3 spots open for Tier B https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3865947
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on the bored wop posted:Piss Tate Is Real I think that's it 
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Alex Collins or Derrick Henry?
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Should I be thinking about Geronimo or All Day off waiver? 14 person league and small bench (and IDP) with these currently sitting on it: Kelvin Benjamin Rishard Matthews Sanu Deion Jones (LB) that got autodrafted after I went to bed, starter is Sean Lee
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Just finished the draft and I go back and forth between really hating and kinda liking my team... Trying out beersheets and this is what it gave me out of pick 5, unfortunately with one or two timeout autodrafts. 12 team, 0.5PPR, 1 QB 2RB 3WR 1WRT K DEF code:
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veiled boner fuel posted:Should I be thinking about Geronimo or All Day off waiver? 14 person league and small bench (and IDP) with these currently sitting on it: Dump Sean Lee you madman. He's old and always dinged up.
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Tiptoes posted:Alex Collins or Derrick Henry? Collins
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ketchup vs catsup posted:12 teams. I am attempting to trade If you can start 3 RBs you’re going to love the advantage flexing Collins gives you. Your team is fine, just stand pat. Stars and scrubs is still a top tier auction strategy
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Epi Lepi posted:The Bucs could have a better Oline than last year with Ryan Jensen being signed and Ali Marpet moving back to guard. Our RBs did not get any better but they didn't get any worse, unfortunately that means they are still bad. Jameis is suspended 3 games this year but he was hurt for 10 last year. I feel similarly about AJ Green. Doomed to their inept offenses. He may be someone’s WR1; he just ain’t gonna be mine unless he plummets to me.
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That's how I feel about Carlos Hyde
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WaveLength posted:Just finished the draft and I go back and forth between really hating and kinda liking my team... Trying out beersheets and this is what it gave me out of pick 5, unfortunately with one or two timeout autodrafts. I don't hate that team. Booker, Sanu, and Smith can be dropped. Who is available with upside?
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I picked Melvin Gordon over Estinkial Elliott and Kamara at #5 in a 12 man league.
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89 posted:I picked Melvin Gordon over Estinkial Elliott and Kamara at #5 in a 12 man league. Well you are dumb
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