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DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

DisDisDis posted:

well i think otokonoko is literally a pun on the way boy is written so perhaps I am complaining for no reason

your mission is to find an equivalent pun in english. good luck

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Alder
Sep 24, 2013

I wish this was a real series: https://dynasty-scans.com/series/a_romcom_with_a_girly_guy_and_a_boyish_girl

Also all the other manga they've written is dark as hell :stare:

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

big dyke energy posted:

Oh, this is super cute, thanks! You seem to find really great manga, I think I've been reading about everything you link and it's great.

E: this is the song the author talks about at the end of the chapter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzDnHiT_-ao
extremely good

I finished reading Shimami Tasogare yesterday after putting it off for awhile. It was so good!!! I cried so much!!!

Awww thanks. I'm gonna break that streak very soon but I appreciate it. Out of curiosity how long have you been reading the thread? I've got lotsa recs.

As always I invite people to read and be sad/mad about Double House and Sugar Wa Oshigoto with me. And to please read Yokohama Shopping Trip and experience and experience an incredibly broad and complex spectrum of emotions with me, thank you.

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
I have trouble reading Yokohama Shopping Trip because every chapter is so atmospheric that I take a long time just soaking it in. Like in the absolute best way. Its sense of tone, pacing, and paneling are awe-inspiring to me. Like I wish I could do in prose what it does in graphic narrative form.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay

DisDisDis posted:

Awww thanks. I'm gonna break that streak very soon but I appreciate it. Out of curiosity how long have you been reading the thread? I've got lotsa recs.

As always I invite people to read and be sad/mad about Double House and Sugar Wa Oshigoto with me. And to please read Yokohama Shopping Trip and experience and experience an incredibly broad and complex spectrum of emotions with me, thank you.

Oh, idk, I come in the thread once in awhile and see what's up. Usually if I'm in a mood to read manga I come here and see what's been posted, and it just so happens you've posted nice stuff!


I think I'm gonna read Yokohama Shopping Trip now.

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008


When I was younger and I wore my hair long I actually had this happen to me. We were camping and it was one of those communal showers, and I was standing there combing my hair out when this guy walked in, caught a glimpse of me, and went "Oh God I'm so sorry!"

To this day I regret that I corrected him, because it would have been so much funnier to let him walk into the actual women's bathroom next door.

(Also Dis, I too love your recs. Never change. <3)

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!





I can't believe they wrote their RL kink into a manga

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
https://twitter.com/KodanshaUSA/status/1031978929479806976

Stray Bullet Baby is by the author who wrote some good poo poo like Blue Sky Complex and has been on my to-read list for a while so I'll definitely have to get that one. Of the rest...

Keeping His Whims in Check was never scanlated so idk about that one, I've read two other manga by the author and one of them I rated pretty low and the other one was OK but not spectacular. :shrug: I'm not super interested in this one.

Intertwining Lives was also not scanned so can't say on it as well, but it is the author's only BL work -- everything else they've written appears to be josei and nothing translated so this is another complete unknown, but I'm curious and will probably check this one out.

Key Ring Lock I have not read but I really liked ymz's other work that I've read (Labradorescence, Sayanara Heron, and Happy Birthday) so even with the premise being a little odd I think this will be a good one and worth reading.

Trap in a Skirt ...unfortunate name D: I know nothing about this author, looks like their other stuff has been anthology one-shots and a couple other books that haven't been scanned (this one wasn't either) so I have no input here :shrug:

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009




Cephas posted:





I can't believe they wrote their RL kink into a manga
You can't believe that a former porn star turned mangaka would include something as vanilla as a bit of play in a manga?

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

B-b-but that’s lewd

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009




Welp, I forgot to add to my post something about avatar+post combo. That would probably have made the joke funnier.

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
I just realized in that tiny panel, their partner is wearing the same little heart necklace as in that photo. Powerful manga relationship goals :3:

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~

DisDisDis posted:

Awww thanks. I'm gonna break that streak very soon but I appreciate it. Out of curiosity how long have you been reading the thread? I've got lotsa recs.

As always I invite people to read and be sad/mad about Double House and Sugar Wa Oshigoto with me. And to please read Yokohama Shopping Trip and experience and experience an incredibly broad and complex spectrum of emotions with me, thank you.

I am hella sad about Sugar Wa Oshigoto. Double House it's been a long time since I read it. Maybe I should, it's not many manga that has transgender people like me.

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
Well the good news in unlike Double House, Sugar didn't get canceled it just got dropped and never picked up by scanlators as far as I can tell. So if I ever learn Japanese. . .

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Cephas posted:





I can't believe they wrote their RL kink into a manga

Yeah this is a good read, I look forward to more, they're cute together. :3:

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
NB kid works at a crossdressing maid cafe TBH I don't like that 3 out of 5/all the femme characters have the completely round generic cute face but I've only found one other piece of media where the protag says "I'm not a woman or a man" and it's a Prince album so I'll see where it goes.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Did i miss the meeting where everyone agreed to use the term girlyboy

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
This and Otokonoko Doushi Renai Chuu are both Hachimitsu Scans joints so i... guess it's what they're... going with...

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008

Cephas posted:





I can't believe they wrote their RL kink into a manga

I can't believe that choker is clearly not actually held in place by that lock. :colbert:
But the fact that her partner has the same little heart necklace and haircut as in the manga is adorable.

Also it's super weird that hachimitsu started using "girlyboy" for "otoko-no-ko", because I'm sure they've done a shitload of stuff before where they did not.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

DisDisDis posted:

And to please read Yokohama Shopping Trip and experience and experience an incredibly broad and complex spectrum of emotions with me, thank you.
yokohama shopping trip is such a sincerely unique piece of work that imo isn't really captured in many other manga.

reading that and Ai Ren at the same time really just hosed my poo poo right up

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
Although I went from starring in gay videos to being a porn actress, now I'm an author... And I have a cute girlyboy queer as gently caress girlfriend!

Girlyboy Queer as gently caress maids... Should work hard every single day to be cuter than girls while also being boys!!

Fixed it. Hachimitsu Scans can have this special one-time consultation service free of charge.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

DisDisDis posted:

NB kid works at a crossdressing maid cafe TBH I don't like that 3 out of 5/all the femme characters have the completely round generic cute face but I've only found one other piece of media where the protag says "I'm not a woman or a man" and it's a Prince album so I'll see where it goes.



two new chapters of this went up, it's neat.

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



Captain Invictus posted:

yokohama shopping trip is such a sincerely unique piece of work that imo isn't really captured in many other manga.

reading that and Ai Ren at the same time really just hosed my poo poo right up

Is there actually anything else out there like YKK? Even among Ashinano's other works I've read it's pretty unique.

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
Wow this crossdressing maid cafe manga is warming my heart, it's pretty cool to see a story about trans and nonbinary characters talking about their feelings in a safe space :allears:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Oneiros posted:

Is there actually anything else out there like YKK? Even among Ashinano's other works I've read it's pretty unique.

Maaaaybe Girls Last Tour? It's more generic post-apoc than YKK's kind of surreal 'the world is just winding down forever' stuff though.

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

Oneiros posted:

Is there actually anything else out there like YKK? Even among Ashinano's other works I've read it's pretty unique.

unironically Tarkovsky's Stalker

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Sakurazuka posted:

Maaaaybe Girls Last Tour? It's more generic post-apoc than YKK's kind of surreal 'the world is just winding down forever' stuff though.

I wouldn't really say that. Most post-apoc stuff has a lot about nature reclaiming the earth, or people fighting over the scraps of the lost world, or trying to rebuild society. Girls Last Tour doesn't have any of that. Everything's just dead.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
What's the fluffiest, most feel-good shoujo you can recommend me? Like, I want something that looks at Kimi ni Todoke's anime and say "Nah, too rough, man".

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Wark Say posted:

What's the fluffiest, most feel-good shoujo you can recommend me? Like, I want something that looks at Kimi ni Todoke's anime and say "Nah, too rough, man".

...I forget, have you tried Kase-San, Wark?

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Spiritus Nox posted:

...I forget, have you tried Kase-San, Wark?
Nope! I swear somebody posted a tweet about it getting an anime/movie in the chat thread, but that's all I remember. I'll give it a read, then. :)

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Wark Say posted:

What's the fluffiest, most feel-good shoujo you can recommend me? Like, I want something that looks at Kimi ni Todoke's anime and say "Nah, too rough, man".

Honey So Sweet https://www.viz.com/honey-so-sweet

it's licensed so you'll have to buy it tho

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
Wark read Prunus Girl

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



Sakurazuka posted:

Maaaaybe Girls Last Tour? It's more generic post-apoc than YKK's kind of surreal 'the world is just winding down forever' stuff though.

StandardVC10 posted:

I wouldn't really say that. Most post-apoc stuff has a lot about nature reclaiming the earth, or people fighting over the scraps of the lost world, or trying to rebuild society. Girls Last Tour doesn't have any of that. Everything's just dead.

Yeah, there are some similarities in the setting but YKK is (to me) more about humanity winding down and leaving the world to their successors, sort of the twilight years of the species and everyone coming to grips with that, whereas GLT (I need to read the manga, only watched the anime) was more "humanity is all but dead here are their last gasping breaths let's poke around their bones and watch their creations devolve into ruin and meaninglessness".

Not to say I didn't enjoy the hell out of GLT, though.


DisDisDis posted:

unironically Tarkovsky's Stalker

I really wish I could get Tarkovsky but I'm 0-2 on Stalker and Solaris so far. Maybe I'm not drunk / depressed enough when I try to watch them?

<edit>

DisDisDis posted:

Wark Everyone read Prunus Girl

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

I wouldn't say they're at all similar in content, and probably not even all that close in theme, but I felt like what I read of YKK hit a lot of the same melancholy buttons for me that Mushishi did.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Everything Burrito posted:

Honey So Sweet https://www.viz.com/honey-so-sweet

it's licensed so you'll have to buy it tho
I'll put it on my to-buy list because it's close to the end of the month and, y'know, grown up dreck, but I'll take you up on your rec.

DisDisDis posted:

Wark read Prunus Girl
Deal.

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



Spiritus Nox posted:

I wouldn't say they're at all similar in content, and probably not even all that close in theme, but I felt like what I read of YKK hit a lot of the same melancholy buttons for me that Mushishi did.

I did love Mushishi, definitely strikes those notes of melancholy and awe of the (super)natural world.

I really just wish I could read YKK for the first time again :sigh:

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Oneiros posted:

Is there actually anything else out there like YKK? Even among Ashinano's other works I've read it's pretty unique.
Well, it's definitely not as good as ykk, but the aforementioned ai-ren is a good melancholic story on life and death, just...cut out the war bits I guess, they felt super irrelevant to the story of two people with not much time left.

Wark Say posted:

What's the fluffiest, most feel-good shoujo you can recommend me? Like, I want something that looks at Kimi ni Todoke's anime and say "Nah, too rough, man".

Mothafuckin' ORE MONOGATARI

Maybe watch the anime too! It's good!

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

Oneiros posted:


I really wish I could get Tarkovsky but I'm 0-2 on Stalker and Solaris so far. Maybe I'm not drunk / depressed enough when I try to watch them?


maybe you're missing a particular love for long navel gazing films. Stalker has the nature aesthetics and atmospheric meditation on big human themes, though it's much darker than YKK imo. (Though the ending is hopeful in the same way I think YKK is.) Hita Hita (kissmanga link) has the whimsy, mark making and a bit of the lesbianism. :nws:

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The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008

DisDisDis posted:

NB kid works at a crossdressing maid cafe TBH I don't like that 3 out of 5/all the femme characters have the completely round generic cute face but I've only found one other piece of media where the protag says "I'm not a woman or a man" and it's a Prince album so I'll see where it goes.

Do not, under any circumstances, read the comments. :smithicide:

Edit: Also Dis, read Starless by Jacqueline Carey, which is an epic fantasy with a straight up NB protag. It's not a great book, but it's pretty good and the representation is novel.

The_White_Crane fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Aug 23, 2018

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