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HEY GUNS posted:if this is like the time the czechs tried to get the rest of us to call it czechia, it won't stick I'd be surprised if a majority of the population knows that Mormons and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are the same thing. https://i.imgur.com/T1j4CWC.mp4
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HEY GUNS posted:if this is like the time the czechs tried to get the rest of us to call it czechia, it won't stick It's more like asking us to say "The Country of Czechia of Current Day Czechs"
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I'm guessing it's because the term 'Mormon' makes them sound like another religion to outsiders.
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this has been the weirdest subplot to the whole clerical sex abuse scandal warning lifesitenews link I've been talking for a long time about how the USCCB should divest themselves from finances and politics and now suddenly the ultraconservative weirdos are ready to guillotine them all. well it's 2018 after all
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TOOT BOOT posted:I'm guessing it's because the term 'Mormon' makes them sound like another religion to outsiders. There's a whole article you could read that talks about the reasoning...
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This has been the case for awhile now. Every so often the LDS Church tries to insist on it, it never really sticks. I remember getting Sunday School lectures as a kid about how I should correct friends who used the term "Mormon". (I never did)
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an overdue owl posted:I put some more close ups here: https://imgur.com/a/v9UKX8E It's a cool thing. Based on general feel, I would also guess late Victorian (probably for an Anglo Catholic market). I like the way that the setting of the stones is made to look like a medieval bezel setting. That's some nice attention to detail.
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Hopefully this is the right place to ask this. I am trying to look for a parody of the "atheist professor gets owned by Albert Einstein" trope, but it was about a Catholic professor getting owned by an Orthodox student. Anyone remember this one?
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on hold with sex line posted:Hopefully this is the right place to ask this. I am trying to look for a parody of the "atheist professor gets owned by Albert Einstein" trope, but it was about a Catholic professor getting owned by an Orthodox student. Anyone remember this one? This one? quote:A Venetian Catholic Holy Roman elector and violent usurper was teaching a class on Pope Innocent III, known backstabber "patriarch". "Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Pope and accept that he was the true head of the only one church of Jesus Christ that the world has ever known, even greater than Constantine the Great! (I removed some antisemitic bits from the original copypasta because gently caress that) e: vvv that's wayyy better, thanks vvv System Metternich fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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After some digging, I found a different version, with no anti-semitic bits:
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Keromaru5 posted:After some digging, I found a different version, with no anti-semitic bits: This is amazing and, I assume, 100% true.
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It may not be literally true but it's true in my heart.
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When I was a kid, my mom told me that while Santa Claus wasn't literally true, there was truth in the spirit of Santa Claus and that the fictional character had a metaphorical truth to it. I went away to stew on this, and then came back to her: "I don't care what you say, Santa Claus is real!" Years later, I read about the life of Saint Nicholas and felt 100% vindicated.
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Mr Enderby posted:It's a cool thing. Based on general feel, I would also guess late Victorian (probably for an Anglo Catholic market). I like the way that the setting of the stones is made to look like a medieval bezel setting. That's some nice attention to detail.
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OOGA BOOGA I just went to a heathen/metal festival in Norway, where I participated in creepy rituals and also saw introductions to a bunch of ph.ds/projects about the merging of chieftainry and the cult of Odin, heathen esotericism, reenactment hiking and viking food ask me anything Tias fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Sorry thread. I worship this dude now.
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The Phlegmatist posted:Anyway, it doesn't really add up. The corpus used is Christ the King or Christ the High Priest, which was insanely popular throughout continental Europe from about the late 10th cen. to the Reformation. The trifleur cross was also very popular throughout the Gothic period. This was all very fascinating, thank you! (Actually does anyone have any recommendations for books that talk about the history of religious iconography like this? Maybe just for one period or another since it's probably a massive topic). And thanks to everyone else as well, the late Victorian idea makes a lot of sense. HEY GUNS posted:The only place it truly falls down, imo, is the coloring on the corpus and the holy name: it's supposed to be that cool old enamel but to me it looks like paint I'm pretty sure it is paint, yes. Also I'm sure it's just from how it's been handled but the pattern of the way the gold colour has rubbed off makes it seem like people were rubbing Christ's belly for good luck like a Buddha figure, ha.
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Tias posted:OOGA BOOGA How did you get a photo of me?
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Tias posted:OOGA BOOGA What is reenactment hiking? How are they dealing with racism? Does pickled herring count as Viking food? Is that a penis?
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tell me about chieftainry and the cult of odin is it anything like what some people on the internet have called anarcho-monarchism
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i've got this hunger for orthodox poo poo right now and r/orthodoxchristianity is too small and too slow moving. are there any other forums out there that don't suck, or should i just find one of you at random and text about theology all day
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HEY GUNS posted:i've got this hunger for orthodox poo poo right now and r/orthodoxchristianity is too small and too slow moving. are there any other forums out there that don't suck, or should i just find one of you at random and text about theology all day What else is this thread for?
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HEY GUNS posted:i've got this hunger for orthodox poo poo right now and r/orthodoxchristianity is too small and too slow moving. are there any other forums out there that don't suck, or should i just find one of you at random and text about theology all day I used to post at Ship of Fools, though I kind of developed a similar "too small and too slow moving" issue. But you might give them a shot.
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Keromaru5 posted:I used to post at Ship of Fools, though I kind of developed a similar "too small and too slow moving" issue. But you might give them a shot. Ship of Fools is great, though I never got into the forums.
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pidan fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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joat mon posted:What is reenactment hiking? The "King of the Hill" reenactment hiking project is taking a hike through Norway using only viking age gear, basically. The group is Hands on History, which is basically a "historical action and resource bank", meaning that they try out a lot of crafting and do a lot of research into iron age living. Here's a video they made about the hiking project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5AlCoanv3E, and here's an entire page about the project. They do a lot of other stuff, among other things a hilarious piss take on MTVs cribs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fBTFwLRWIo. In general, their youtube and homepage are both amazing, and holds all you could ever want to know about viking reenactment. I'd love to do the hike one day, but they do a pretty thorough vetting, primarily about psychological fortitude and social skills, because you're going to be spending a lot of time with the others and if you break down there's no way to get you out of there. One of the things I thought was pretty neat in the presentation was their observation that you "didn't worry about getting your feet wet, because they were wet all the time". Their approach was simply hiking all day and then drying their foot wraps and feet by a fire in the night. I don't know exactly who "they" you refer to are, but the festival is extremely cool about inclusion. I saw guards detain and trash talk a guy wearing a schwarze sonne t-shirt, which I thought was pretty cool. I have been told the festival has a no-tolerance policy for fascist symbols, but I don't know if it's true. Lot of foreigners attending, also people of colour. Many of the festival organizers are involved with Norwegian pagan federation Bifrost, which is by far the most anti-fascist of the nordic countries pagan movements. While pickling fish is extremely popular in Scandinavia nowadays, archeological evidence cannot conclude we did it back then. The method is known from medieval sources, but not as early as 1100 which precludes most of the viking age. If you're dealing with a fertility deity and can't tell, it always possesses 1d4 penises. HEY GUNS posted:tell me about chieftainry and the cult of odin Putting "anarcho-" in front of anything that involves illegitemate hiearchies from a marxist point of view is extremely dumb and said people should jump in a quarry. No, it's pretty standard stuff from a feudal point of view, what's interesting is that this guy I saw, Josh Rood, wrote a phd detailing how the place-names and finds indicating worship of Odin all are around the burgeoning centres of population and power from which the emerging chieftain class ruled. He also showed how a lot of helmet artifacts had garnet stones without backing around one eye socket, clearly indicating how the chieftain wearing it would have one shining red eye when standing by a fire, indicating that god-questing as Odin was an actual thing Essentially, heathen religion isn't a uniform religion, and over time, the god of the dude ruling over other dudes had to be legitimized, so even if the others could worship Thor, Frey, Njord etc. in peace, their gods had to be subservient to the god of the chieftain in charge. If you're into it, he said that the phd is available for free online, so I should be able to find it for you. He's also a practicing heathen, and sings in a quite decent black/death metal band called Nexion if that's your bag. tl;dr: The chieftains coopted the cult of Odin and changed it from something else into Odin the Allfather, chieftain of all Aesir, because it suited their aims and consolidated the aesir under them. Tias fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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pidan posted:Just post HEGEL
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Tias posted:Putting "anarcho-" in front of anything that involves illegitemate hiearchies from a marxist point of view is extremely dumb and said people should jump in a quarry. why is a chieftain legitimate and a monarch illegitimate? if you band together and agree to make one of you the monarch, why is that illegitimate? HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:the kind of metal i like is very limited, i like stuff like Earth, Sun 0))), and Chelsea Wolfe. A lot of the other stuff is just too high-pitched and fast for my ears Neither are legitimate in an anarchist analysis, that's why I said anarcho-monarchism is an inherently broken word. The rise of chieftains follows the migration age and is before we had any kings uniting the scandinavian countries.
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HEY GUNS posted:the kind of metal i like is very limited, i like stuff like Earth, Sun 0))), and Chelsea Wolfe. A lot of the other stuff is just too high-pitched and fast for my ears A chieftain is the living manifestation of the vox populi, thus the source of legitimacy is just as great as in any democracy. /tongue in cheek
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HEY GUNS posted:i've got this hunger for orthodox poo poo right now and r/orthodoxchristianity is too small and too slow moving. are there any other forums out there that don't suck, or should i just find one of you at random and text about theology all day OC.net is basically dead; I’m not even sure their ex-Old Calendarist priest admin keeps up much with it anymore. Monachos doesn’t seem to update anymore either. I’m sticking with shitposting on Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick’s social media threads for now.
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pidan fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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pidan posted:Those pictures tho it's me, posting in my favorite subforum, Your Creed Sucks
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Lutha Mahtin posted:it's me, posting in my favorite subforum, Your Creed Sucks i'm a bigger fan of Pretentious Hierarch Icon Zone
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Look I'm all for reenactments but Tias, if you sail a bunch of longships across the sea and raid our shores again I'm going to be a bit cross. Unless you're coming to abduct women to live in your Scandinavian high-QOL quasi-socialist paradise in which case, what time you comin?
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this is an interesting review of Dreher: the benedict option claims to be traditionalist but it isn't very catholic...or orthodox, for that matter. What you believe and whether or not that's different from what other Benedict-ers believe doesn't appear to be an issue for Dreher. How odd--almost as if he's imperfectly covering for some anxieties that aren't religious at all. https://bellarmineforum.org/2017/04/21/can-benedict-option-save-catholic-preppers/ edit: Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if I remember Dreher ever talking about Christian beliefs. He just talks about how Christian beliefs are no longer the default in society, which makes him sad,* about how terrible trans people are, about how much the liberals would hate the things he does (which is why he does them, looking over his shoulder to make sure we notice). And he continues his gentle, imperceptible slide toward white supremacy. But I've never heard him describe what he believes and why it's important to him. No saints, no Marian devotions, no prayer beads, no favorite hagiographies, no favorite prayers, no talking about the Liturgy. I don't even recall why he converted in the first place. All culture war, no culture. * Which beliefs in particular? Even this is highly suspect, because as the review makes repeatedly clear, Dreher is trying for a non-denominational approach here. And if society is only viable if you clump into planned communities of the like-minded, that is already not going to work because Catholics, Orthodox, and all the various kinds of Protestant believe very different things. Once again, the only thing that's important to him here is the conservativism. He doesn't seem to actually be religious. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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CountFosco posted:When I was a kid, my mom told me that while Santa Claus wasn't literally true, there was truth in the spirit of Santa Claus and that the fictional character had a metaphorical truth to it. I went away to stew on this, and then came back to her: "I don't care what you say, Santa Claus is real!" okay kropotkin
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If you don't believe me, you're welcome to ask my mom.
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CountFosco posted:If you don't believe me, you're welcome to ask my mom. Thank you, I will. I'm sure she's a lovely woman and we wil have a nice time.
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HEY GUNS posted:Thank you, I will. I'm sure she's a lovely woman and we wil have a nice time. “Uh... hello.... I’m from the internet...”
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