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big business man
Sep 30, 2012

ShriekingMarxist posted:

let me read you my 25000 word Medium article about why Rojava is a CIA puppet

*clears throat*

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1032433808233168896?s=19

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Lmao

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

The Lion of Assad is a deep, deep hole

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

the ISO? lol, that's a new one.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
What, people have been making GBS threads on the ISO for carrying US empire’s water for forever

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I’m honestly not that familiar with their work so maybe it’s super unfair but that’s def not a new take

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well, the BBG funded and continues to fund the tor project and radio free asia and all that poo poo to this very day. so they're still very much active

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

isn't the ISO just standard trotsky stuff? feels like he's saying they're literally funded by the CIA

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Trotsky invented the CIA

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1032631750609043456?s=21

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Karl Barks posted:

isn't the ISO just standard trotsky stuff? feels like he's saying they're literally funded by the CIA

yeah ol' Max has spiraled so deep down the Assadist hole that he's now lashing out at Trotsky poo poo on twitter lmbo

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

He's right about half of those otoh. Vice is pretty much state department.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Are we seriously doubting that Trotskyists are being supported by the CIA?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

what if the cia is run by the trots :thunk:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The thing about Operation Mockingbird is that most liberal journalists and writers didn't even know they were being surreptitiously funded by the CIA to undermine the socialist Left. They weren't getting marching orders from Langley.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

i heard a rumor that Max Blumenthal was funded by the Clinton Foundation :aaaaa:

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

*a domme in a babushka cracks a riding crop across my dick and balls* BOOOOOOOOOOOLSSSSSHEVIK DISCIPLINE!!!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

what if the cia is run by the trots :thunk:

wasn't Blair and most of the Bush era neocons trots?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1032437887483166720

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1032634755605516289

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

wasn't Blair and most of the Bush era neocons trots?

Blair claimed that he was briefly a "Trotskyist" after reading part of his biography in college

to say he was ever an actual "Trotskyist" in any meaningful sense is a stretch

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Max practices “radical politics” in exactly the way you’d expect from a gilded toilet Clintonite. he hops on fads and constantly has to twist his politics to The Most Radical, Conspiracy Based Backroom pivot

i'd take a """CIA funded""" Trot over yet another holier than thou rich boy any day but ymmv

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

the CIA should have funded the USSR in order to discredit them, imo. total alpha move

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If the trots are good then why do they keep collaborating with Germany & Japan

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Postoyevsky posted:

Max practices “radical politics” in exactly the way you’d expect from a gilded toilet Clintonite. he hops on fads and constantly has to twist his politics to The Most Radical, Conspiracy Based Backroom pivot

i'd take a """CIA funded""" Trot over yet another holier than thou rich boy any day but ymmv

You're a loving idiot, dude.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Postoyevsky posted:

Blair claimed that he was briefly a "Trotskyist" after reading part of his biography in college

to say he was ever an actual "Trotskyist" in any meaningful sense is a stretch

*extremely Steve Bannon voice* I'm a Leninist

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You're a loving idiot, dude.

sorry are you rich too

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Well LF thread we had some fun, but now it's time to split over whether regime change is bad.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Syria is today's Stalin

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
yea all the original neocons were originally trotskyists

even hitchens was a bit of a trot

also i found this handwringing essay about CIA cultural fronts interesting, When the Student Movement Was a CIA Front: The CIA's manipulation of the National Student Association foreshadowed other forms of Cold War blowback that compromised democracy at home. by Aryeh Neir in the American Prospect. Neir is a no holds barred Cold War Liberal and still finds it p hosed up lol

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
liberating iraq was the ultimate permanent revolution if you think about it

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
How come Trotsky broke up Frida and Diego huh?

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

CIA..bad? :thunk:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

If the trots are good then why do they keep collaborating with Germany & Japan

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

still working my way through that doc btw, it's a doozy

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
i'm sure it's a complete coincidence that the ISO has been around for 50 years and has failed to achieve any meaningful victory even once.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Impermanent posted:

i'm sure it's a complete coincidence that the ISO has been around for 50 years and has failed to achieve any meaningful victory even once.

yeah that's never happened in the history of the world, something existing for a long time and failing

e. don't mean to be spicy, it's just something about the paranoid mindset on the left that drives me... crazy

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Impermanent posted:

i'm sure it's a complete coincidence that the ISO has been around for 50 years and has failed to achieve any meaningful victory even once.

if tangible success is a measurement of anything, well, buddy,

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The least to ask for is that a left wing organization not literally repeat the State Department's regime change line.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

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A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That illustration always makes me LOL

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