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Tony Gunk posted:Uhhhhh...isn't this provision like the most popular part of the ACA? Not going to be a very effective response if Democrats can just say "your bill will take away insurance from people who have pre-existing conditions". If they don't subsidize insurance markets in any meaningful way, leaving it in will take insurance away from the entire middle class who will no longer be able to afford the premiums. They're literally screwed no matter what they do.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:36
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Rigel posted:At this point, we need McCain to live past the first week of January. (Unless the current shitlord residing in the AZ governor's mansion wins re-election in which case it won't matter) The likelihood of that happening with him having given up treatment is pretty close to 0.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:37
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Spiritus Nox posted:If Beto O'Rourke loses narrowly to Cruz he should unironically run for President in 2020. He's a great campaigner. I'm almost tempted to say that he should do it even if he narrowly wins. It would put the bubbas in a weird position down here, stuck between Grr Libruls and Go Texas. it's far from certain that they'd vote for him in sufficient numbers to flip the state, then again just having the opportunity to vote for a real Texan rather than a carpetbagger like Bush might be worth a few points by itself. That said I'd far prefer him win narrow or otherwise just to get Ted loving Cruz out of the news forever.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:38
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I... I... My god... My first instinct was that actual Democratic operatives should be smart enough to keep a snake like Avenatti out of the hen house, but why would that be the case? I try to avoid too much Dems Bad, but this is awful.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:39
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Chilichimp posted:If they don't subsidize insurance markets in any meaningful way, leaving it in will take insurance away from the entire middle class who will no longer be able to afford the premiums. Yeah Obamacare was a real piece of poo poo legislation
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Aug 24, 2018 20:40
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Are you ready for Biden Avenatti 2020
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Aug 24, 2018 20:40
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Rotten Red Rod posted:See this is why I kind of want Oprah to run. She's not my ideal candidate but if this kind of bullshit is what the DNC is cozying up to instead of more progressive candidates I'll get behind her instead any day. This is not really happening
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Aug 24, 2018 20:41
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sexpig by night posted:who's 'rushing' to support him other than the kinds of losers who go to DNC meetings and would literally vote for a piece of dogshit with a D next to its name Can't I just be angry that those people exist at all If we have to have President Oprah ok goddammit but I don't have to like it
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Aug 24, 2018 20:42
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Spiritus Nox posted:If Beto O'Rourke loses narrowly to Cruz he should unironically run for President in 2020. He's a great campaigner. If this loser who lost a campaign loses, hes not a great campaigner
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Aug 24, 2018 20:44
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Hopefully avenatti runs so he splits the vote between centrist losers
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Aug 24, 2018 20:45
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Terror Sweat posted:If this loser who lost a campaign loses, hes not a great campaigner But what if .... different races have different criteria for winning and some are easier than others. Just imagine.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:48
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I really don't think Avenatti has a chance in the primary process. He may be an interesting bomb thrower, but i really doubt he will poll anywhere near the top 3.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:49
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Terror Sweat posted:If this loser who lost a campaign loses, hes not a great campaigner Indeed, Beto O'Rourke is on track to join the rank of talentless, loser dems who can't even win easy statewide races in Texas, just like Barack Obama Skex posted:I'm almost tempted to say that he should do it even if he narrowly wins. Nah, if Beto wins his Senate seat he should definitely hold off. Keeping Texas purple/blue for 6 years is too juicy to pass up, and skimping out on a senate term to run for something else two years later would be a bad look.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:50
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There are going to be like 20+ candidates in 2020.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:50
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Nobody but reistance grifters, the people who follow them, and the Extremely Online actually know who he is
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Aug 24, 2018 20:50
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I really don't think Avenatti has a chance in the primary process. He may be an interesting bomb thrower, but i really doubt he will poll anywhere near the top 3. I'm not really worried about him actually winning the primary, but the fact that he wasn't politely greeted and then shown the door is pretty damning of whoever was at that DNC meeting.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:51
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Potato Salad posted:Has she actually loving come out as a god drat candidate yet? Real candidates do not declare before the midterms. Right now, what you do if you want to be a candidate is help out as many people in the midterms (via campaigning or fundraising) as possible, accumulating support. You also get donors/fundraisers/etc committed to you (if you run). Then, the people who have done well at both of those are taken seriously as candidates, anyone who didn't is not. If you're campaigning for yourself this early, you do a bad job at the first part (campaigning for other people) and give the impression you're more focused on yourself than on building up the party as a whole.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:51
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No Safe Word posted:But what if .... different races have different criteria for winning and some are easier than others. Just imagine. I’m in favour of evidence based politics, and all evidence is pointing to him being a loser who can’t beat Canadian slime
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Aug 24, 2018 20:52
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I... I... My god... It’s a bullshit clickbait article about people being thirsty for the dude, he has no more support then Oprah, Zuckerberg or whatever dumb gimmick candidate the media gets gets excited and then forgets about. If your going to react like this about every flash in the pan “candidate” to get this treatment you’re in for a rough two years.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:52
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mcmagic posted:There are going to be like 20+ candidates in 2020. there are 20+ candidates right now. most won't make it through the invisible primary, and will know well ahead of the time to declare their candidacy that if they do run it will be an embarrassing failure that will end any future hopes of running. i would guess you're going to have more like 8-12 candidates with no more than 6 or so with a genuine shot. the wild card is how many self-funded billionaires just go gently caress it, i'm better than trump and it worked for him I'm running, since you can't weed them out via the invisible primary
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Aug 24, 2018 20:53
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What I like is how the Democrats are simultaneously controlling manipulative smoke-filled-rooms people who just won't let a progressive through BUT ALSO a random lawyer from the TV is going to charge to the front of the pack and win the nomination
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Aug 24, 2018 20:55
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Terror Sweat posted:Yeah Obamacare was a real piece of poo poo legislation Obamacare guaranteed coverage for preexisting conditions and established a system to pay for it by requiring young, healthy individuals to buy health insurance. The republicans blew the mandate up, so now insurance is gonna death spiral. Unless they add some means by which to subsidize the cost ripple effect of guaranteed coverage, insurance will become too expensive for most people to afford. In short, killing the pre-existing condition coverage is inevitable under the Republican vision for healthcare. They want to return us to the slow death spirals from before the ACA. This issue is going to loving kill their base (literally and figuratively).
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Aug 24, 2018 20:55
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Spiritus Nox posted:Nah, if Beto wins his Senate seat he should definitely hold off. Keeping Texas purple/blue for 6 years is too juicy to pass up, and skimping out on a senate term to run for something else two years later would be a bad look. He doesn't have to resign to run. He only has to resign if he becomes President. And having him run as the Democratic nominee in 2020 would probably do a whole lot more to move Texas to purple than staying as a Senator.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:56
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theflyingorc posted:What I like is how the Democrats are simultaneously controlling manipulative smoke-filled-rooms people who just won't let a progressive through BUT ALSO a random lawyer from the TV is going to charge to the front of the pack and win the nomination I mean pretty much what is guaranteed to happen is they will pick their preferred "safe" candidate whose "time" it is, groom them, rally behind them, and then have them be crushed by whatever rich celebrity decides they can do it if Trump did it. Chilichimp posted:
Not if they keep blaming the problems on Obamacare itself instead of their fiddling with it. A lot of people have really bought into that, mostly just because of the nickname
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Aug 24, 2018 20:58
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If Beto beats Cruz he should definitely run for the Democratic presidential nomination He probably shouldn't get it but he should take his shot
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Aug 24, 2018 20:58
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sexpig by night posted:who's 'rushing' to support him other than the kinds of losers who go to DNC meetings and would literally vote for a piece of dogshit with a D next to its name People who go to DNC meetings are all losers! Why is the DNC an echo chamber where none of them agree with me? I'm voting third party!
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Aug 24, 2018 20:58
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evilweasel posted:He doesn't have to resign to run. Ah, I didn't know that. That changes the calculus.
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Aug 24, 2018 20:59
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I like how people are rushing to support avenatti when his policy agenda is "gently caress Trump" and nothing else, and yet Warren puts out a massive anti-political-corruption policy agenda and she's ignored, and Bernie gets dismissed as too old. Avenatti isn't going to make it to Iowa and Warren isn't being ignored. Relax.
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Aug 24, 2018 21:00
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Chilichimp posted:Obamacare guaranteed coverage for preexisting conditions and established a system to pay for it by requiring young, healthy individuals to buy health insurance. Boomers: Millenials are all lazy, unemployed, and entitled, but I am going to base my entire survival around them floating the economy enough to pay for my bloated medical bills
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Aug 24, 2018 21:00
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TheDisreputableDog posted:It's true, only by destroying our own capacity for empathy can we beat Trump. It's okay to hate your abusers. It's okay to be happy and to celebrate when they're dead. Celebrating the death of someone who is harming other people is peak empathy.
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Aug 24, 2018 21:02
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Terror Sweat posted:I’m in favour of evidence based politics, and all evidence is pointing to him being a loser who can’t beat Canadian slime Hence Cruz beating everyone in Iowa early in 2016 meant everyone else should have just dropped out because the others were losers who couldn't beat Canadian slime
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Aug 24, 2018 21:02
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Cruz will run for President in 2020.
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Aug 24, 2018 21:03
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Terror Sweat posted:If this loser who lost a campaign loses, hes not a great campaigner Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
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Aug 24, 2018 21:04
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Also my primary vote is going to the first candidate to insult gamers.
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Aug 24, 2018 21:04
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evilweasel posted:Real candidates do not declare before the midterms. Right now, what you do if you want to be a candidate is help out as many people in the midterms (via campaigning or fundraising) as possible, accumulating support. You also get donors/fundraisers/etc committed to you (if you run). Then, the people who have done well at both of those are taken seriously as candidates, anyone who didn't is not. Also Warren in particular is up for re-election...
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Aug 24, 2018 21:05
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I'm US Aid to the Palestinian Authority
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Aug 24, 2018 21:06
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Oh has he come around on his anti-marijuana stance?
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