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TerminalSaint posted:I haven't found a cheddar that can even come close to competing with Cabot since moving to Canada. I would assume you and The Butcher don't live in Quebec. In Ontario, Farmboy sells small batch cheddar that is pretty drat fine. Also, day-fresh St-Albert cheese curds... Yum 
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TerminalSaint posted:I haven't found a cheddar that can even come close to competing with Cabot since moving to Canada. You're looking in the wrong cheesy places: Cheesy goodness: Cows Creamery [P.E.I.] cheddar wins top awards at U.S. competition
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Canada's mass-produced cheese is every bit as lovely as American (purely based on taste, ofc there's factors like the cows getting hormones, etc. to consider). If you get into the premium stuff, both countries have great examples of high quality cheese, which isn't surprising since cheese doesn't really depend on a particular climate and both Canada and the U.S. are big countries with a lot of people.
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Glengarry farms in Lancaster, ON makes a loving amazing cheese called Lankaaster which actually just won the 2018 cheese awards So yes Canada can make good dairy
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infernal machines posted:Also, supply controls mean our dairy farmers aren't racing to the bottom, undercutting each other by jamming their cattle full of BGH to increase output. I do think Canadian milk is better, but this is disingenuous. If you think it's hard to find milk that doesn't guarantee it's "from cows not treated with artificial growth hormones," then you haven't been in an American grocery store in five years or more.
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Is that milk the bargain basement $1/gallon stuff people are referring to when they talk about how much cheaper American dairy is?
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I just looked up 2% milk at Wegmans. It's US$1.79/gallon, which is equivalent to C$2.47 for 4L. I believe a 4L bag of 2% at my local grocery store is $4.59 or something like that.
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Try being lactose intolerant but love drinking milk. $6 to $8 for a 4L jug. Better than all the toots though.
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https://twitter.com/mariedanielles/status/1032991985534214144 There's no way Bernier is going to be able to put together a nation-wide party and run a full slate of candidates in under a year. I think he's expecting Scheer to lose and step down and he's going to make his move for leader again.
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/mariedanielles/status/1032991985534214144 TO THE MAX!
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/mariedanielles/status/1032991985534214144 So uhhh ... is he mid-mental breakdown? This is very odd.
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If there's one thing we should have learned in the last few years it's that as long as you're the loudest voice in the room you don't have to be smart or well-organized or particularly competent to run a successful political campaign.
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vyelkin posted:If there's one thing we should have learned in the last few years it's that as long as you're the loudest voice in the room you don't have to be smart or well-organized or particularly competent to run a successful political campaign. It's a lot easier when the position you are running for is a direct vote between essentially is two different people and you are backed by the largest political party in your country. Bernier has to do everything from scratch.
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vyelkin posted:If there's one thing we should have learned in the last few years it's that as long as you're the loudest voice in the room you don't have to be smart or well-organized or particularly competent to run a successful political campaign. HEY GUYS WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?  But seriously, Bernier could just play the pariah and swoop back in if Scheer loses. It's not a crazy bet to take. Hell, for that matter if it looks like Scheer might win he could half-rear end a campaign to lose and split the vote to make sure Scheer loses. Not exactly 3D chess or whatever, it's just basic politics. InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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vyelkin posted:If there's one thing we should have learned in the last few years it's that as long as you're the loudest voice in the room you don't have to be smart or well-organized or particularly competent to run a successful political campaign. Yeah but loud in a thick annoying french accent?
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DariusLikewise posted:It's a lot easier when the position you are running for is a direct vote between essentially is two different people and you are backed by the largest political party in your country. Bernier has to do everything from scratch. He also doesn't have to actually win an election to achieve his immediate goals. The Reform Party never formed government and yet their last leader was prime minister for a decade. Postess with the Mostest posted:Yeah but loud in a thick annoying french accent? Hey if it was good enough for 28% on the first and 49% on the last ballot for the Conservative leadership a year ago, it's probably still good enough to win a bunch of the conservative vote today. Based purely on what conservatives I know on facebook share, it also seems like he's pretty popular on conservative social media where your accent doesn't matter.
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Problem solved! Next up: beer prices.
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/mariedanielles/status/1032991985534214144 That would be significantly easier if he doesn't form another party. Split the vote for Conservatives in the next election and there's no way they'd take him back.
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vyelkin posted:He also doesn't have to actually win an election to achieve his immediate goals. The Reform Party never formed government and yet their last leader was prime minister for a decade. I'm not saying he has to win, I'm saying that he's going to have a hell of a time getting a completely brand new party off the ground 1 year before the next election. The Reform Party was formed 1 year before the 1988 with a lot of support from former PC members and they only managed to run 72 candidates and won no seats. They did a lot better after that but even then they only managed 2% of the popular vote. So far it appears Bernier has no support from existing MPs and literally no staff or framework for a party. You could also argue that the Reform Party only got popular as a right-wing party after that because of the absolute collapse in popularity of Mulroney and Campbell.
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Hot Take: Maxime Bernier is a loving moron who just committed political suicide via a petulant tantrum. This is fine and good.
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infernal machines posted:Hot Take: Maxime Bernier is a loving moron who just committed political suicide via a petulant tantrum. This is fine and good. A lot of implicit Canadian matterings almost hang in the balance of whether Bernier goes on to succeed because of these maneuvers, or he crashes and burns out to a cushy private-sector "job" somewhere out of the spotlight.
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I think the real of test of Bernier will be if he gets any Conservative defectors before the next election. If there's no defectors I can't see them getting more than 1 or 2 seats and they won't have any impact on the election. If he manages to get 4 or 5 MPs and/or a *big name* Conservative you could see some poo poo go down. And I think you'll find that on closer examination (reading Reddit comments) that Bernier is actually the fabled "socially progressive, economically conservative" saviour that Canada has been waiting for.
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Ah yes the fabled "Multiculturalism is bad" social progressive...
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How in the gently caress is the man who is literally too racist for the Conservative party "socially progressive"? Just what kind of bizarre rear end definition are they using?
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I find a lot of the "socially progressive/fiscally conservative" types generally take "socially progressive" as strictly only meaning supporting gay marriage and being pro-choice, with probably a pet issue thrown in there. But the idea of actually going beyond not explicitly repressing minorities, like by spending money to help them get an equal footing in life, (or god forbid doing anything that prevents the straight white male from anything at all), is to be derided as "SJW behaviour" and must be stopped at all costs. They're one step away from being a typical internal libertarian, in that they proudly wear the "pro-gay, pro-choice" label instead of begrudgingly accepting it as a badge of their "rational thinking at all costs" world view. Some people haven't clued in that not wanting to stone minorities to death just isn't good enough anymore. Kreez fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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infernal machines posted:How in the gently caress is the man who is literally too racist for the Conservative party "socially progressive"? Just what kind of bizarre rear end definition are they using? Because being "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" means you only care about stuff that you perceive has a direct effect on you so for instance your huge collection of leather porn is cool but it's also cool if you're convinced that the reason you can't get a good job is because they've all been taken by Syrians. It is by nature a nebulous and contradictory political stance.
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Maxime Bernier is like a political version of Jordan Peterson, 5 years late. I say this because dumbass centrist journalists are the reason he has a name to begin with, despite people shouting "please don't platform Nazis" for literal years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A I'm not even done "I told you so"ing over Jordan Peterson but I look forward to it after your dumb butts condemn yourselves to PM Bernier.
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Socially liberal financially conservative just means "I want you to die because you're poor, not because you're gay" but also "oh you're poor because you were made homeless at 16 because your conservative parents found out you were gay? Maybe you should have made better choices in your life and become a highly paid computer toucher like me."
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Reince Penis posted:I uhhh .... who is this directed at exactly? Presumably anyone who has ever mentioned JBP. Speaking his name gives him power, you see.
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Reince Penis posted:I uhhh .... who is this directed at exactly? No one in particular, I was just on the record about "stop talking about Jordan Peterson" several years ago, and then people helped make him famous by complaining about him, despite me saying that was exactly what would happen. I'm wrong many/most times but I am definitely going to bask in that. This dork conservative is much the same. He is getting a lot more exposure from complainers than supporters. Just don't look. infernal machines posted:Presumably anyone who has ever mentioned JBP. Speaking his name gives him power, you see. Unironically yes. xtal fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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This is some galaxy brain level thinking https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/1033106489395879936 It's actually bad to let refugees in because there's clearly more deserving refugees elsewhere
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Bernier has a chance of being at least a minor force. His talking points are being echoed by the CHUDsphere so I expect attrition aa the echo chamber works its magic
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Haven't there only been 2000 or so American asylum seekers since Trump took office?
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Arcsquad12 posted:Haven't there only been 2000 or so American asylum seekers since Trump took office? Wrong. The answer is millions, perhaps billions.
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DariusLikewise posted:This is some galaxy brain level thinking Also because we know for sure how absolutely nothing bad is happening to asylum seekers in the US right now.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Haven't there only been 2000 or so American asylum seekers since Trump took office? I thought I heard 8000 somewhere but either way its still a drop in the bucket. We admit ~30,000 refugee claimants and another ~250,000 immigrants annually.
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vyelkin posted:If there's one thing we should have learned in the last few years it's that as long as you're the loudest voice in the room you don't have to be smart or well-organized or particularly competent to run a successful political campaign. I expect to hear this nationwide, in both official languages. 
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Reince Penis posted:I thought I heard 8000 somewhere but either way its still a drop in the bucket. We admit ~30,000 refugee claimants and another ~250,000 immigrants annually. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/asylum-claims-2017.html 20,000 in 2017, I think i read its closer to 30,000 now? Either way a drop in the bucket. Canada is a huge nation, we need all the immigrants we can get
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