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Pick posted:he went to his mind palace, which has wifi that lets him talk to the internet and know all the things Yeah, his dad's ghost was following him around being kind of hectoring and annoying and more a hindrance than a help. Not 'dogs' - Diefenbaker. His intelligent wolf. Who was obviously a husky. It's an extremely realistic show about Canadians. 
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Probably the most offensive kind of adaptation is when an original story, well-known for how it deviates from the norm, is hammered into a clichéd narrative that's old by this point. Case in point; Alice in Wonderland which added a chosen-one plot into a story that had no plot, and the Jabberwock as a villain even though he was but a fictional character in the text itself. Really the worst adaptation is one that seeks to erase the point of the original work, while I believe everything else is expendable: Rick Deckard's sheep, Belle's evil stepsisters, and that hippie-motherfucker Tom Bombadil.
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bitterandtwisted posted:s7 sucked aside from Anya's origin story episode. Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:'Sherlock in the modern day and age' doesn't really work. Pick posted:you can't intuit the solution Choco1980 posted:Also, people who try to connect Moriarty or Addler to everything Holmes related obviously can't stand the fact that the only characters that had at all antagonism towards Sherlock while being on equal footing each appear in only one or two stories out of the enormous amount that Doyle wrote.
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Aug 27, 2018 02:44
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They should have gone with the “twist” that Sherlock was the one committing the crimes and that he’d hired an actor to play Moriarty.
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The best version of Sherlock Holmes is the one where he teams up with Freud and they fight a team of trained assassin horses. In that one Moriarty is a high-school math teacher that Holmes terrorizes and harasses because he’s coked-up out of his mind and having delusions. Alan Arkin is Freud. It’s great.
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Aug 27, 2018 03:11
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The Sherlock in Elementary goes to those AA meetings with sobriety chips and 12 step programs but I know he's atheist as gently caress. He should never believe that god will help him relieve his drug addiction.
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Aug 27, 2018 03:12
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A modern remake of Sherlock Holmes requires subversion. The Sherlock Home: Dr. John Watson is a best-selling and respected criminal psychiatrist working as a profiler for the FBI who does pro bono work for the controversial Sherlock Home for Mental Health. In reality, he's using a few different patients in the institution to pool their unique mental abilities and illnesses to help him solve cases that he takes the credit for. Dr. Marie Arthur is a social worker who is trying to get the old Sherlock Home shut down and its patients moved into better facilities. She's suspicious of Watson and his interest in the patients, and finds herself trying to prove he's a fraud and a danger.
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Aug 27, 2018 03:21
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Rollersnake posted:For Indian characters in media consumed by kids in the mid-late '90s you basically had Apu, Hadji, and Dhalsim. Hadji was the best of them, especially when you hadn't heard his name used as a racial slur yet.  how is Dhalsim not the absolute loving best of those options, Dhalsim is one of the baddest motherfuckers in all of Street Fighter
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
He was sort of controversial in the 90s. I seem to recall there being some complaints about the baby skulls.
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HopperUK posted:Yeah, his dad's ghost was following him around being kind of hectoring and annoying and more a hindrance than a help. Not 'dogs' - Diefenbaker. His intelligent wolf. Who was obviously a husky. I found out a few years ago he went to the same school in Surrey that I did, and around the same time. Don't remember him, and doubt if I could pick him out of the school picture. That's one of my brush-with-greatness stories, thanks for reading! (Fake edit: the actor, not the dog)
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
Unfortunately Dhalsim set unrealistic standards for children WRT the length of limbs
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Dhalsim just proved that yoga let's you stretch your limbs and breath fire if you did it hard enough, kids should learn perseverance before adults declare that he sets unrealistic standards just because of his hard work and dedication.
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business hammocks posted:The best version of Sherlock Holmes is the one where he teams up with Freud and they fight a team of trained assassin horses. In that one Moriarty is a high-school math teacher that Holmes terrorizes and harasses because he’s coked-up out of his mind and having delusions. Alan Arkin is Freud. It’s great. Say what? What version is this, I want to see it!
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DicktheCat posted:Say what? What version is this, I want to see it! The Seven Percent Solution. It’s less bonkers than it sounds but still really bonkers. It’s probably the most sympathetic and humanizing portrayal of Freud in all of fiction.
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Aug 27, 2018 04:50
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Back in school the teacher did a reading of The Day My Bum Went Psycho. This was before the sequels came out.
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JediTalentAgent posted:He was sort of controversial in the 90s. I seem to recall there being some complaints about the baby skulls. Apparently they're children he failed to save from his home town and he keeps them around as a reminder. In context, dude's basically a superhero.
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You can unlock your chakras and apparently fire as well using yoga
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Apparently they're children he failed to save from his home town and he keeps them around as a reminder. That’s still loving weird and also sounds really similar to the “she’s really 3000 years old” school of “well,actually” character design
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Aug 27, 2018 06:48
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Tiggum posted:As well as Elementary, Jonathan Creek was also really good (for the first three seasons until Caroline Quentin left). It's hilarious watching the episode of Poirot that Renwick (the creator of Jonathan Creek) wrote because Poirot takes up magic for no reason and is constantly doing tricks during the episode.
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Mu Zeta posted:You can unlock your chakras and apparently fire as well using yoga Apparently his fire is actually an illusion, which hurts people because they believe it will.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Apparently his fire is actually an illusion, which hurts people because they believe it will. Originally (as in, the first Street Fighter 2) he breathed fire because he really liked vegetarian curry and liked it extremely spicy.
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Aug 27, 2018 07:21
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Tiggum posted:Including Moriarty is pretty much the one thing that's guaranteed to make me hate any Sherlock Holmes adaptation. I even hate her in Elementary (although the rest of the show is still good). What about hologram Moriartys?
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uvar posted:What about hologram Moriartys? I don't even know what show that refers to, but it sounds bad.
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Tiggum posted:I don't even know what show that refers to, but it sounds bad. Star Trek.
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uvar posted:What about hologram Moriartys? or genetic 22nd century clones
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Star Trek. Oh, right. That wasn't a Sherlock Holmes adaptation though. And I did always enjoy seeing how incredibly bad the Enterprise crew were at video games - like, just understanding the concept of video games.
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JediTalentAgent posted:A modern remake of Sherlock Holmes requires subversion. While not a modern remake, might want to check out Without a Clue, where it's revealed that Doctor Watson, played by Ben Kingsley, is actually the brilliant detective. Reginald Kincaid, played by Michael Caine, was a drunk, out of work actor Watson hired to play the fictional Sherlock once the public demanded to meet the star of his stories.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Back in school the teacher did a reading of The Day My Bum Went Psycho. This was before the sequels came out. And now it's a cartoon for preteen children.
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The Sherlock pilot is the high point and it's all pretty much down hill from there, but I'm a Sherlock nerd and still find it mostly entertaining mostly, despite its flaws and how obnoxious it can be. You know who else is a sherlock nerd? And wrote his own mycroft holmes novel?  
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Tiggum posted:Jonathan Creek was also really good (for the first three seasons until Caroline Quentin left). Several plots involves convoluted situations arising from typos on autocorrect text messages, one has a bug on a fax that induces a suicide. CD roms that tell the future, amazing clear recordings on a 90s PC mic and "hidden" messages from turning the text white in word. The first episode has Caroline Quentin's character, a journalist, show how to hack someones answering machine by guessing the default pin. A method used by the Sun to hack celebs phones. It's kinda worth watching for the utter batshit nonsense the show has to get into to keep fresh. One recent episode did a pisstake on Sherlock's style of deducing. BogDew has a new favorite as of 12:42 on Aug 27, 2018 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:You know who else is a sherlock nerd? And wrote his own mycroft holmes novel? His height also forced the NCAA to outlaw dunking for the better part of a decade and even with a 20 year pro career he still managed to become an commercial airline pilot. That man is a national treasure.
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WebDog posted:One recent episode did a pisstake on Sherlock's style of deducing. I loved that part. For anyone who hasn’t seen it, the main character is a guy who designs magic tricks for a tv magician and he also solves crimes (usually ‘locked room’ mysteries). In the latest episode he and his wife visit a friend and they say their son is home from university and that he’s a also a bit of an amateur detective. The son shows up and asks them how their trip to Morocco (I think) was. He then goes a minute long Sherlock style spiel about how he deduced they’d been to Morocco based on the main characters watch being a few hours ahead and some other details. As soon as he leaves the room, the main character looks at his watch and just remarks “I’d forgotten the battery died, should probably get a new one.”
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Jonathan Creek is worth watching just for the scene with the 3D porno movie.
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Italax posted:I loved that part. For anyone who hasn’t seen it, the main character is a guy who designs magic tricks for a tv magician and he also solves crimes (usually ‘locked room’ mysteries). In the latest episode he and his wife visit a friend and they say their son is home from university and that he’s a also a bit of an amateur detective. The son shows up and asks them how their trip to Morocco (I think) was. He then goes a minute long Sherlock style spiel about how he deduced they’d been to Morocco based on the main characters watch being a few hours ahead and some other details. As soon as he leaves the room, the main character looks at his watch and just remarks “I’d forgotten the battery died, should probably get a new one.” Pratchett did it best: “Samuel Vimes dreamed about Clues. He had a jaundiced view of Clues. He instinctively distrusted them. They got in the way. And he distrusted the kind of person who’d take one look at another man and say in a lordly voice to his companion, “Ah, my dear sir, I can tell you nothing except that he is a left-handed stonemason who has spent some years in the merchant navy and has recently fallen on hard times,” and then unroll a lot of supercilious commentary about calluses and stance and the state of a man’s boots, when exactly the same comments could apply to a man who was wearing his old clothes because he’d been doing a spot of home bricklaying for a new barbecue pit, and had been tattooed once when he was drunk and seventeen* and in fact got seasick on a wet pavement. What arrogance! What an insult to the rich and chaotic variety of the human experience!”
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Krispy Wafer posted:even with a 20 year pro career he still managed to become an commercial airline pilot. That was Roger Murdock. Easy mistake.
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Wheat Loaf posted:They both have their place but Sherlock fails to live up to its promise. I think Moffat and Gatiss are far too preoccupied with the "great game" aspect of Sherlockiana - this idea that everything is somehow a permutation of this titanic struggle between Holmes and Moriarty - and ends up forgetting that it's supposed to be about solving mysteries. That's one big advantage Elementary has over it. moriarty is an extremely bad plot device Conan-Doyle pulled out of his rear end to get out of writing Holmes and is normally the worst part of any Sherlock Holmes fanfic so whenever anyone praises Moriarty's character on Sherlock it's extremely telling of what the rest of the show is like
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Davros1 posted:While not a modern remake, might want to check out Without a Clue, where it's revealed that Doctor Watson, played by Ben Kingsley, is actually the brilliant detective. Reginald Kincaid, played by Michael Caine, was a drunk, out of work actor Watson hired to play the fictional Sherlock once the public demanded to meet the star of his stories.
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Pick posted:Nah I mean like, in that case, there's no existing snake that fits the parameters described in the story. To "solve" the mystery, you have to invent an imaginary snake and then blame it. The same could be said of all religions! JediTalentAgent posted:A modern remake of Sherlock Holmes requires subversion. Help, the link to your Kickstarter isn't working!
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JediTalentAgent posted:A modern remake of Sherlock Holmes requires subversion. go on 
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WebDog posted:That show has aged so bad when it comes to using tech as the core of the mysteries. Was there a reason the locked-room mystery in the bunker needed to be arranged to look like a suicide? Because it felt like the murderer just wanted to be a dick to police.
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