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If you just released an app that reported back FREEDOM levels like that based on your gyroscope and radio signals, you would be the next president. "Oh let's check the app, freedom not looking so good in California, lets build that Wall." Landslide victory for Saddam McHitler our new King.
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revolther posted:If you just released an app that reported back FREEDOM levels like that based on your gyroscope and radio signals, you would be the next president. West Virginia comes last again.
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Aug 25, 2018 17:39
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So it looks like the net neutrality bill was restored after Santiago hosed it, and it passed his committee and is heading to the Assembly floor. https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/California-net-neutrality-bill-restored-after-13175606.php quote:Weeks after the hearing and amid intense backlash, Santiago agreed to restore the bill to its original form and have it return to his committee.
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Aug 25, 2018 18:44
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The Glumslinger posted:Carthago Delende Est - CATO institute 
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Aug 25, 2018 19:21
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*Major ISP fucks over emergency services during a huge state crisis* *Bill placing heavy regulations on ISP's is subsequently restored and sails through committee* "Your process is too unclear!"
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Double post but let's check in on some blatant corporate rear end covering:quote:Before answering questions from the State Assembly’s Select Committee on Natural Disaster, Response, Recovery and Rebuilding, Reyes revealed that Verizon is immediately lifting all data caps on public safety workers for unlimited data plans in four U.S. states, including California. The rest of the article is pretty great too, Verizon is apparently busy wringing their hands about how because data caps technically aren't a net neutrality issue, it's wrong for the government to respond to their complete and total gently caress up by reviving strict net neutrality regulations. 
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Aug 26, 2018 03:14
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Sydin posted:Double post but let's check in on some blatant corporate rear end covering: I feel like evidence of their poor judgment and tendency to do the shittiest thing in any given situation is extremely relevant to legislation which would give them more freedom to be lovely.
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The fact that it's "four states, including California" and not "everywhere Verizon covers" says everything that needs to be said. Verizon can get hosed.
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Aug 26, 2018 08:17
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Thoom posted:Verizon can get hosed.
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Aug 26, 2018 08:26
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Thoom posted:The fact that it's "four states, including California" and not "everywhere Verizon covers" says everything that needs to be said. Verizon can get hosed. According to the article the new plan is nationwide but they're rolling it out early for states with current natural disasters/emergencies. Also it's something they've been putting together for "more than eight months" and it's a complete coincidence that they're doing this now, of course. Regardless, Thoom posted:Verizon can get hosed.
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Aug 26, 2018 09:56
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Next president ought to promise to break up Verizon, we got all of these anti-trust laws sitting on the books for a reason
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Aug 27, 2018 05:56
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The Glumslinger posted:Next president ought to promise to break up Verizon, we got all of these anti-trust laws sitting on the books for a reason
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FilthyImp posted:I'm half convinced the fate of Verizon is like some greek tragedy: to be broken up then reforged slowly over decades, in an endless cycle of antitrust violations. If so, we're already in Act II. 
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Aug 27, 2018 17:24
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verizon and qwest merger when
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Sundae posted:If so, we're already in Act II. MCU is getting pretty confusing and depressing.
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Aug 27, 2018 17:31
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Sundae posted:If so, we're already in Act II. This should really be Ma Bell at the top, rather than AT&T. And if you look closely, the only Ma Bell properties in Verison are Bell Atlantic and Nynex.
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Leperflesh posted:This should really be Ma Bell at the top, rather than AT&T. It's also woefully out of date and doesn't include the partial AT&T Wireless and Verizon Wireless mergers, which also encompass AllTel and Vodafone, or any of the other cellular-era consolidations.  https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7548387&page=1 It'd be a lot of fun to see how the modern state of telecom looks when you include all the other players. Sprint is owned by Softbank, T-Mobile owns MetroPCS, Sprint and T-Mobile are constantly trying to merge, T-Mobile is majority-owned by Deutche Telecom, etc etc. I think the flowchart might be even more depressing. Sundae fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Aug 27, 2018 |
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Aug 27, 2018 17:40
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Come on silicon valley. Where is my loving disruption tech for the telecom industry.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Come on silicon valley. Where is my loving disruption tech for the telecom industry. Lol this will never happen, they only disrupt things that make it easier to be a rich adult child
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SlimGoodbody posted:Lol this will never happen, they only disrupt things that make it easier to be a rich adult child Yea. drat it. You're right. How can I force the telecom industry to screw of rich manbabies?
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Aug 27, 2018 23:51
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The big SV players only put up a token lobbying effort against the net neutrality repeal. Compare that to eg the SOPA/PIPA lobbying. It doesn't really hurt their revenue streams, they don't really care.
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Aug 28, 2018 00:05
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Google sort of tried with Google Fiber, which was an elaborate game of chicken Google was trying to play with the ISP's to make them start rolling out fiber more broadly, because more users with faster internet is better for Google. Except the ISP's completely called their bluff, only rolled out fiber where Google did, and then threw the book at Google by lobbying against and suing the pants off of them anywhere and everywhere they even pretended they might try to expand Google Fiber. Google also lost a ton of money on the whole thing and once it became clear they'd have to roll out to literally the entire country before the major ISP's did likewise, they quietly scrapped all expansion plans and laid off most of the staff.
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SpaceX is planning to poo poo out thousands of microsatellites to provide wifi everywhere on Earth, so I'm sure elon musk will be a good caretaker of our wifi-based telecom future
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Leperflesh posted:SpaceX is planning to poo poo out thousands of microsatellites to provide wifi everywhere on Earth, so I'm sure elon musk will be a good caretaker of our wifi-based telecom future Looking forward to all that garbage clogging up ascent routes and trapping us on our new hot planet.
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Admiral Ray posted:Looking forward to all that garbage clogging up ascent routes and trapping us on our new hot planet. We have to figure out how to endure or un-wreck the hot planet either way or we're not getting even a tiny sustainable population going anywhere else 
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No doubt a good thing but how does it handle people who are extreme flight risks?
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Aug 28, 2018 20:59
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They get to hang out and wait. The court gets to make this determination. Something along these lines led to the ACLU opposing the bill, despite having initially helped craft it.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No doubt a good thing but how does it handle people who are extreme flight risks? quote:Under Senate Bill 10, co-authored by Hertzberg and Rob Bonta (D-Alameda), counties would have to establish their own pretrial services agencies, which would use “risk-assessment tools,” or analysis, to evaluate people arrested to determine whether, and under what conditions, they should be released. i'm going to be amazed if judges and county officials dont just abuse this to prevent anyone from being released
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm going to be amazed if judges and county officials dont just abuse this to prevent anyone from being released Unless I'm reading the bill wrong the authors thought of this. There are three levels of risk assessment for people who are arrested: low, medium, and high. High risk get held no matter what. Low risk get released. Medium risk is what this is talking about. County courts may create local rules: quote:"The local rule may further expand the list of offenses and factors for which prearraignment release of persons assessed as medium risk is not permitted but shall not provide for the exclusion of release of all medium-risk defendants by Pretrial Assessment Services." So they can create a more restrictive listing for medium-risk detainees, but they can't make the list so restrictive that they never release anyone. However, all of the above only applies to people who receive a pretrial risk assessment. Only people who commit felonies or certain misdemeanors actually get an assessment: quote:"A person arrested or detained for a misdemeanor, other than a misdemeanor listed in subdivision (e) of Section 1320.10, may be booked and released without being taken into custody or, if taken into custody, shall be released from custody without a risk assessment by Pretrial Assessment Services within 12 hours of booking." So even if they wanted to bankrupt themselves holding every two-bit criminal they can find they have to release people brought in on misdemeanor charges within 12 hours. I haven't read the whole text yet but I can't find anything that lets them redefine who receives an assessment. (Not a lawyer though I worked in the court system for a while, so someone with more legalese knowledge feel free to correct me if I'm off-base.)
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The ACLU and prisoner's rights groups all changed from supporting it to opposing it 2 weeks ago after it was amended. https://www.aclunc.org/news/aclu-california-changes-position-oppose-bail-reform-legislation https://essiejusticegroup.org/2018/08/essie-justice-group-withdraws-support-for-sb-10/
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No doubt a good thing but how does it handle people who are extreme flight risks? The rich are never affected by these things, don’t worry.
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It looks like it literally has exemptions for EVERY reason a cop would come to someone's house on a domestic call. So basically it's a fastpass system for repeat DUI offenders and Cops who shoot kids, and a go straight to jail for 100 days card for all poor folks.
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Aug 29, 2018 12:18
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How do we determine risk? We have here a paper bag...
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Yeah, and it relies heavily on risk assessment tools which amount to "determine if someone is black by looking at every piece of available data except their skin tone."
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fermun posted:The ACLU and prisoner's rights groups all changed from supporting it to opposing it 2 weeks ago after it was amended. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say its due to the language that lets counties/localities set their own rules for middle tier risk assessment
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Baby Babbeh posted:Yeah, and it relies heavily on risk assessment tools which amount to "determine if someone is black by looking at every piece of available data except their skin tone." I feel like risk assessment tools are pretty terrible, but then you look at what people do left to make their own judgments and it's even worse. Right now it seems like the bill is combining the worst aspects of both with the huge amount of leeway over "middle" level risk.
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My favorite take ~by far~ has been “what about all of the bail bondsmen jobs? We interviewed the owner of Aladdin Bail Bonds and also a bail bond lobbyist for their thoughts” *dave_chappelle_fuck_em.gif*
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:My favorite take ~by far~ has been “what about all of the bail bondsmen jobs? We interviewed the owner of Aladdin Bail Bonds and also a bail bond lobbyist for their thoughts” Yeah that was on NPR home of the "if we hold utilities responsible for fires what will their shareholders do"
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah that was on NPR home of the "if we hold utilities responsible for fires what will their shareholders do" Saw an ad on TV that basically said pge/BRITE will lay off every middle class employee before shareholders lose a dime.
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