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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

My Croatian girlfriend found out about this very recently. She’s excited to vote, and now she’s actually making research on the local candidates, bless her heart.

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Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

Yeah, as people pointed out you can vote in the local city and county elections as a non citizen, but not the parliament one.

Please vote for V everyone.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Cached Money posted:

Yeah, as people pointed out you can vote in the local city and county elections as a non citizen, but not the parliament one.

Please vote for V everyone.

Lol, no.
V is as extreme as SD in their own way.

Also, the more votes V get, the less influence they get since they diminish S & MP.

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
If you live in Stockholm and don't checkbox vote Amineh Kakabaveh (V) for Landsting / Kommun - you're a doofus. It's not like they're going to go red either way, but she's a good apple and provides a voice of sanity wherever she treads.

You still should consider voting Goatse and/or Kalle Anka for Riksdagen tho

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

Cardiac posted:

Lol, no.
V is as extreme as SD in their own way.
Bullshit. Current V is in many ways less radical than S was in the early 1980’s. They’re functionally social-democrats in pretty much every meaningful way. Sure their party program talks about the socialist utopia but if you look at what they actually do in the Riksdag, well, nah.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Retarded Goatee posted:

If you live in Stockholm and don't checkbox vote Amineh Kakabaveh (V) for Landsting / Kommun - you're a doofus. It's not like they're going to go red either way, but she's a good apple and provides a voice of sanity wherever she treads.


This is good advice. Heed it.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
You're responding to a Cardiac post, friend.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

TheFluff posted:

Bullshit. Current V is in many ways less radical than S was in the early 1980’s. They’re functionally social-democrats in pretty much every meaningful way. Sure their party program talks about the socialist utopia but if you look at what they actually do in the Riksdag, well, nah.

That is not exactly a good comparison, given that löntagarfonderna was a thing then.
S made a hard turn left in the 70s, compared to previous decades.

Also, while I call them both extreme, they and SD are still content with making change through parliamentarian means, which is sort of a big divide.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
As I understand it V is basically akin to the Norwegian SV. As in, while they want a socialist society they are not revolutionary or particularly radical, favoring basic social democratic reform and inhabiting the space where our labor parties used to be before neo-liberalism took hold. Like SV they appear to divide their platform into a three-pronged approach (socialism, feminism, environmentalism) instead of focusing on a strong class-based socialist message. I'm guessing this means that like SV they're weak to other parties owning their issues and apparently also to schisms like when FI (Feministisk Initiativ) split off in 2005.

It's too bad you guys don't have something closer to Norwegian Rødt, but V looks to be the best party available if you are in any way left-wing.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

What exactly about V is extreme? The most extreme position they have is that they want to forbid profits in school and healthcare and want 6 hour work shifts instead of 8. Hardly revolutionary.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Retarded Goatee posted:

If you live in Stockholm and don't checkbox vote Amineh Kakabaveh (V) for Landsting / Kommun - you're a doofus. It's not like they're going to go red either way, but she's a good apple and provides a voice of sanity wherever she treads.

You still should consider voting Goatse and/or Kalle Anka for Riksdagen tho

To clarify, Amineh Kakabaveh is nominated for Riksdagen on the V docket for Stockholms län/kommun. She is not a candidate for Landstinget/kommunfullmäktige.

https://data.val.se/val/val2018/valsedlar/R/rvalkrets/02/valsedlar.html#id0005

E: So doing what Retarded Goatee suggests is not possible.
EE: In short, if you feel like a vote for Amineh is a good vote, you are voting for V in Riksdagsvalet.

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Aug 27, 2018

Cakebaker
Jul 23, 2007
Wanna buy some cake?

Cardiac posted:

Lol, no.
V is as extreme as SD in their own way.

Also, the more votes V get, the less influence they get since they diminish S & MP.

So if I don't want V to have power I should vote for them? You've convinced me.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Lina El Yafi is an old co-worker on mine, and also on the V-ticket. I'll vote for her; she and V in general are fighting the good fight against the horrible managed SL.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

McCloud posted:

What exactly about V is extreme? The most extreme position they have is that they want to forbid profits in school and healthcare and want 6 hour work shifts instead of 8. Hardly revolutionary.
loving commies

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
Yeah they are against corporations making a profit on our children and sick people(with tax payers money no less) those terrible communists...

Vote V, or gently caress it vote for anything but "Alliansen"(more cops and cameras and gently caress the immigrants) or SD(more cops and cameras and gently caress the immigrants and EU)

Seagull Fiasco
Jul 25, 2011

I just voted, my choice of party was tactical but my choice of block was not (to avoid confusion: it wasn't Alliansen and it sure as poo poo wasn't SD). Now there's not much else to do except sit back and watch this trainwreck unfold.

Pump it up! Do it!
Oct 3, 2012
V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Pump it up! Do it! posted:

V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.

Take that weak-rear end troll poo poo back to Reddit

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Pump it up! Do it! posted:

V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.

https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/1034134208090914816

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010

Pump it up! Do it! posted:

V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.

Wrong that would be Alliansen with all those mistakes about how reseersättning works.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Venezuela is NKS.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Pump it up! Do it! posted:

V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia.
2/5 pepes

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

lol, "It's a graduation of the word 'evades'." TV2FOX falsely claims Swedish politicians don't talk about the torched cars. Watch the editor stutter through simple questions.

https://www.facebook.com/detektorDR/videos/563351337433043/

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
this is some next level smug

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 28, 2018

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011


This is one for the history-books.

Postorder Trollet89
Jan 12, 2008
Sweden doesn't do religion. But if they did, it would probably be the best religion in the world.

Potrzebie posted:

To clarify, Amineh Kakabaveh is nominated for Riksdagen on the V docket for Stockholms län/kommun. She is not a candidate for Landstinget/kommunfullmäktige.

https://data.val.se/val/val2018/valsedlar/R/rvalkrets/02/valsedlar.html#id0005

E: So doing what Retarded Goatee suggests is not possible.
EE: In short, if you feel like a vote for Amineh is a good vote, you are voting for V in Riksdagsvalet.

I am honestly tempted to vote for V because they need voices like hers, as does the left wing in general, but I don't wanna abandon S now.

Basically no matter what happens post election will be a complete shitshow, I'm stocking on popcorn already.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

MiddleOne posted:


This is one for the history-books.

:laffo:

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
I dont get it

How did the debate go?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Postorder Trollet89 posted:

I am honestly tempted to vote for V because they need voices like hers, as does the left wing in general, but I don't wanna abandon S now.

Basically no matter what happens post election will be a complete shitshow, I'm stocking on popcorn already.

I'll be on vacation during and after the election. Let me know if I should seek asylum instead of going home.

E: That image is purestrain gold. The more I look at it the funnier it becomes. Whoever took that photo :bravo:

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Aug 28, 2018

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
a reverse molotov-ribbentrop pact? :thunk:

(for those lurkers who aren't familiar with the faces of swedish politicians, in the foreground we have the Sweden Democrats leader Jimmie Åkesson, while behind him the socialist Jonas Sjöstedt is shaking hands with the closest thing Swedish mainstream politics has to a libertarian, Center Party leader Annie Lööf)

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy
Today was a good day. First Emma Wigh took a huge dump on her former party, and then Jimmy was super TRIGGERED by Morgonpassets roast. I don't think his base will care, but it is probably complicated for normal parties to cozy up to SD now.

https://nyheter24.se/maktkamp24/913388-jimmie-akesson-forbannad-under-intervju-skitkanal

quote:

Det är ungefär vad jag förväntar mig av den här skitkanalen jag är med i just nu. Det blir jättedålig stämning nu, men det är inte mitt fel.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Satanistiskt initiativ: Avskaffa mänskligheten

quote:

Är ni för eller emot vinster i välfärden?
– I grund och botten kan vi väl förenkla det till att vi är emot välfärden, men där är vi ju långt ifrån unika, det verkar ju resterande politiska partier också vara i någon mån.
:haw:

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012


Well, they have my vote.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Potrzebie posted:

Today was a good day. First Emma Wigh took a huge dump on her former party, and then Jimmy was super TRIGGERED by Morgonpassets roast. I don't think his base will care, but it is probably complicated for normal parties to cozy up to SD now.

https://nyheter24.se/maktkamp24/913388-jimmie-akesson-forbannad-under-intervju-skitkanal

His base absolutely cares. They're tooting and hollering about their strong fearless leader standing up to the oppressing elite.

He knew exactly what he was doing. Hopefully this can be used to undermine M and Kristerssons attempts to ignore questions about working with SD.

Regarding Lööf and Sjöstedt, it has been noted before that they have decent respect for eachother, and they've done several debate tours against eachother, something I haven't really seen other pairs of partyleaders do?

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

BigglesSWE posted:

Regarding Lööf and Sjöstedt, it has been noted before that they have decent respect for eachother, and they've done several debate tours against eachother, something I haven't really seen other pairs of partyleaders do?

They have some kind of understanding that they will not intentionally misunderstand or interrupt each other in debates, IIRC. They debate on ideology, market liberalism vs socialism, which is also kind of unusual since ideology is mostly dead in Swedish politics.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

There is also a photo shot with Busch Thor and Sjöstedt from Melodifestivalen.

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
Annie Lööf is loving terrifying. I'd much prefer the current C monstrosity be ejected from Riksdagen than pretty much any other actor.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
I don't know anything about these parties because I was too busy watching an episode of Preacher instead of watching the debates

Thank you for your time

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Maybe not strictly relevant to this thread, except accusations of these kinds of ties existing within scandinavian police have been debated in the past: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/29/arrest-warrant-leak-fuels-suspicions-of-far-right-links-with-german-police

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
So apparently there's been a zurge of political twitter bots and the vast majority seem to spew SD-propaganda :abrathink:

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/snabbkollen/twitterbottar-okar-infor-valet

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