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Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat
The last Deux Ex game left me dissatisfied. I am hoping that this new one will fill scratch that itch.

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Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

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(in ASCII)

Stop putting spaces in binary you fukkin nerds!

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
Just watched the 2077 demo.

My favorite part was the text along the top of the screen basically apologizing for the state of the game because it's in ALPHAAAAA and not finished yet.

Despite the fact that any 5 seconds of this demo shits all over every single aspect of anything Chris Roberts has ever made in his entire lifetime in aggregate.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Baxta posted:

I can't watch the whole YouTube's because I've got a sleeping baby nearby but what's the situation with multiplayer for Cyberpunk?

I think it's currently confirmed as singleplayer only, but there's mention of them wanting to put co-op in it. Maybe a patch a year after release or something like that, unless they can somehow squeeze that in before launch.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Scruffpuff posted:

No plans will change this time. All efforts are to intensify the illusion of the Squadron 42 "game" being a thing that exists. Heavy implications will be made that all Squadron 42 advancements will carry over to the Star Citizen "MMO." For the purposes of pledging, it will be claimed that funding one funds the other, and all the amazing things you see will be in both titles.

There is no development effort being made on the PTU any more - the broken model-viewer hastily released in late 2015 has been pushed as far as it will go. All development efforts and fake gameplay trailers are about Squadron 42 now. The lie hasn't changed on that front - Chris thinks that the money made on Squadron 42 (:lol:) will fund the super-secret internal plan that will save Star Citizen forever: starting over with a different engine.

Why do this, aside from the loving blatantly obvious? You see, it will make the bad Crytek go away because Squadron 42 is one game, so their claim of multiple games goes away. Also, since nobody pledged for Squadron 42, they pledged for Star Citizen, which is going to use a different engine, then Crytek has no claim to a percentage of the $200 million they stole. Victory due to technicality! A slam dunk case, because judges never consider intent, and always allow the defendant to change the rules on the fly like that, just like in Hollywood Movies.

Chris thinks Squadron 42 will bring in $500 million in fresh cash in the first 2 weeks, and has already started spending that money.

I mostly concur with this assetment.

It may be time to unleash The Pusher!

CIG hasn’t exactly been signaling confidence that OCS will make 3.3. There have been a lot of subtle hints, of the “we are swinging for the fences!” but we might miss! Kind of like ship purchasing for earned credits, which absolutely looks likely to miss. The big incentive CIG has to keep pushing the PU forward is to sell players on housing for whatever money they can wring out of that. That so many Land Claim related targets are on the roadmap suggests how eager Chris and Erin are to tap that.

But Squadron’s hollywood star power roster has barely been exploited. 2016 and 2017 focused backer attentions on Moons! Seedy 3 jacket wearing Tony Sopranos lookalike mission givers! Desert nomads and Sandworms! City wide planets! Squadron got a late appearance in a weirdass cinematic travelogue that needed a big “insert gameplay here” warning through 90% of it. Skywalker and the Onion Knight scored some easy media coverage. But there are so many other big names, some bigger names, that just haven’t been hyped much yet.

Cyberpunk hasn’t got that. Red Dead hasn’t got that. Only Chris would throw a fortune to bring so much Hollywood prestige to his game. If ever there was a time to make that the centerpiece, it’s this year.

Getting what should’ve been his lay-up shot game out will obviously be a nightmare, what with Crytek wanting to get their due and with Squadron now damned to share all the headaches of their living, breathing Frankencode universe. They never should’ve been conjoined, they always should’ve been separate. It could’ve been easy and should’ve been.

Watching Starlancer playthroughs again earlier, and seeing a Squadron-like game built for purpose and looking immersive (for the time) and fun to play (if corny), it really drove home how much Chris lost the plot by adding too much. Even he knows it now and admitted as much. File under: Duh, circa 2015.

I do think we’ll get some pixelporn of future PU goodness. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it include things like “here is what Salvage will look like” because we know Chris has had his team working on “grind up spaceship scrap” visuals so that Reclaimer owners can watch that mechanic at work (and Chris definitely wants to sell more pricey big ships, now and forever.) I’m sure the temptation is there to tease jumpgates too, so that “the expanding microverse” still has some basis for faith. Stanton isn’t close to done, but that’s no reason not to at least nod to the future to come.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Lladre posted:

The last Deux Ex game left me dissatisfied. I am hoping that this new one will fill scratch that itch.

Cyberpunk 2077 is Deus Ex, but made by people who know what "fun" is.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Scruffpuff posted:

Just watched the 2077 demo.

My favorite part was the text along the top of the screen basically apologizing for the state of the game because it's in ALPHAAAAA and not finished yet.

Despite the fact that any 5 seconds of this demo shits all over every single aspect of anything Chris Roberts has ever made in his entire lifetime in aggregate.

Couldn't help but feel like someone tried to scam me when I read the 'still WIP' remark.

Can't even tell me boss that 'I'm still working on this piece' without feeling like a cheat.

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

Scruffpuff posted:

What I want to know is if they also didn't decouple the player controls from those models. So that as you fly your autism chariot around, your player model is janking around to the controls. All players and all models. All of them. And those movements are also rebroadcast back to everyone no matter where they are. This is what I choose to believe.

I'm pretty sure that's why the zombie player models get all twisted and distorted.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/1034098972237983745
:tinfoil:
“The furnished apartments of Lorville are calling you, Citizen! Will you lease? (Pay a subscription fee...) Or buy? (Pay a onetime chump tax.)”

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
YOUTUBE: Star Citizen Free Weekend - What Have They Been Doing For The Last 6 Years?

Another free fly experience that doesn’t seem likely to convert the next whale.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Star Citizen Time Shares

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Star Citizen Free Weekend - What Have They Been Doing For The Last 6 Years?

Another free fly experience that doesn’t seem likely to convert the next whale.

next gen character customization with 10 presets all looking real natural

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1033100941430382592
https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1033750427018436608

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

quote:

To be honest I am really hyped for both games SQ42 and Cyberpunk 2077, but in my opinion both demos were pretty impressive! While Cyberpunks demo obviously was a lot more detailed SQ42 seemed really large and a bit more serious and realistic!

quote:

Really? Honestly strikes me as a bit Halo-ish. Not a fan of double jumping in MIDAIR. The style is also a bit too "cartoonish" - look aat the proportions of the woman lying on the stretcher - her legs were a good four or five inches too long. All the body proportions are based off of animation, not reality.

As a stylistic game, I believe it will be very fun. But then again, it looks like a typical FPS to me. I say nothing that made me think "Wow! This is a game changer. I've never seen anything like this before."

quote:

So like, an improvement on games like Just Cause or Far Cry or ...

Its not a WORLD, its an "open world game". Big difference. CIG is not just making a world, but multiple worlds, in star systems. Just not appropriate to compare them.

We've had "open world games" for a LONG time now. I mean seriously, go back to Elder Scrolls 2. Its just the same stuff but taken to much higher levels of detail. Its not really new.
(Bluegobln for this one of course)

They're so brokebrained that they have to deny any other game that is not the one true word of their lord and saviour.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
BIOMASSED PODCAST: Was the Star Citizen Free Flight a Mistake? Probably.”

Discussion starts 11:55 in. Several voices weigh in. One tried it and gave up before downloading due to the Byzantine website navigation. She said she was subjected to too many ads for “buy our ships” during what should’ve been a simple download and test trial. Anecdotal reports of difficulties others had with the trial get discussed. It’s not a group rooting for failure, just wondering if things have gone awry at CIG and hoping they can get their act together.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Star Citizen Free Weekend - What Have They Been Doing For The Last 6 Years?

Another free fly experience that doesn’t seem likely to convert the next whale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsRwIPGMvY&t=4065s

:v:

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

G0RF posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/1034098972237983745
:tinfoil:
“The furnished apartments of Lorville are calling you, Citizen! Will you lease? (Pay a subscription fee...) Or buy? (Pay a onetime chump tax.)”

How much would you pay, citizen, for a nice can of 'Magnolia', 'Rose Blush', or even 'Tropical Morning' to brighten up that grey interior.

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

G0RF posted:

So, real talk.

Roberts has watched the Cyberpunk demo already. That’s a given.

It’s still more than a month until CitizenCon. More than enough time for a new monkeywrench hurled down from above.

How will the plans for CitizenCon change? What will Roberts demand be added or invented from nothing to outdo the Cyberpunk vertical slice?

Chris will announce a new CIG studio being set up in Poland - Foundry CD42Red Ltd.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Scruffpuff posted:

Just watched the 2077 demo.

My favorite part was the text along the top of the screen basically apologizing for the state of the game because it's in ALPHAAAAA and not finished yet.

Despite the fact that any 5 seconds of this demo shits all over every single aspect of anything Chris Roberts has ever made in his entire lifetime in aggregate.

Agreed, just finished watching it also. Very nice looking game, very nice artwork and direction, well thought out enviroment, characters seem very well fleshed out and "alive" even the npcs just there to take up space, nice details all around, generally just very interesting and well put together. Makes CIG's attempts look very old and out of touch.

I 'want' to play Cyberpunk having seen their walkthrough, I want to play it a lot, that's a feeling or desire that SC does not imbue to me.

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

what the gently caress is he talking about?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





quote:

While I really like the impression of the street crowds, I couldn't help but think, yeah, but all these NPC walking around were programmed to do what they are doing. Can you even interact with half of them? Like you I found the look and feel of the CP2027 lacking in . . . credulity for lack of a better word. It looked like a current generation video game. Very much so. A number of little things that didn't sell it, and actually detracted from what was going on.

quote:

Nothing in the game is networked. One of the biggest issues that the technical side of SC faces it that everything is multiplayer. This makes it vastly more complicated.

The Squardon 42 and even the Arc Corps demos worked very well because they weren't networked at all.

There's also the fact that CIG needed to develop a lot of tech to increase the scale of the game. What CD Projekt Red is doing is super impressive and I'm not trying to take that from them, but CIG isn't just building one massive game world. Their tools have to populate planets and star systems. It takes a lot more work.

quote:

I mean, you don't "activate inner thought" for a door. You just press the same button that brings up inner thought and it opens the door with one button. Did you not know that or am I missing a specific door example you're thinking of? Its as easy to use right now as opening a door in a game like Half-Life, just press F. Or whatever keybind.

:discourse:

Neltharak
Jun 7, 2013


These people are mental.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Neltharak posted:

These people are idiots.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

G0RF posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/1034098972237983745
:tinfoil:
“The furnished apartments of Lorville are calling you, Citizen! Will you lease? (Pay a subscription fee...) Or buy? (Pay a onetime chump tax.)”

The "W" key costs extra on this keyboard.

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

BurtLington posted:

Can someone post the proof that the player actually becomes the ship when getting in it and the real avatar gets teleported to a nebula in the middle of nowhere? My friends don’t believe me and I can’t find the proof.

https://media.giphy.com/media/dCBADnIWisTsqsu84U/giphy.gif

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

hot balls man no homo posted:

The "W" key costs extra on this keyboard.

You just cost someone their weekend.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Mangoose posted:

what the gently caress is he talking about?

He thinks Crobblers invented artistic screenshots.

Yet another groundbreaking 'First' from CIG which everyone was doing decades before and never made a big deal of.

Othin
Nov 20, 2002

Hair Elf
Hmm let me activate my inner thought. This game sucks and will never be released.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
MMORPG FORUMS: Are you thinking OMG what have I done, or still confident?”

MightyUnclean posted:

I watched some streaming of the free trial of SC. From what I saw, some players had a lot of bugs, while others had a relatively bug-free experience. One thing that seemed to be a common thread was that people had a hard time figuring the game out. I still don't know what to think, honestly.

For those who have invested in the game, especially at a significant level, and played for a while, are you doubting that investment these days? Or are you still confident that SC will be great?

LazyDazed posted:

I dropped $2500, I still think the development is decent and I enjoy what is implemented so far. I have reported quite a few bugs and they get fixed. I can't say I am 100% pleased with everything but that is to be expected. I think they have a lot going for them and the base mechanics are there, a lot of fine-tuning and putting the pieces together. I tell people to wait, if you really want to buy in just buy one of the starter packs.

Erillion posted:

I am still confident.

If i encounter bugs, i write a bug report and submit it. Volunteer backer playtester.

Every patch they add some more stuff. I try to break it. Then report any problems i encounter.

Having a great time with my buddies online, doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Canyon jumping. Dance choreography, buggy crashcar derbies, boarding actions, dropping rovers from orbit, exploring the asteroid belts and moons ....

Krematory posted:

I usually don't enjoy seeing other people's dreams crushed and burned, but I'm afraid I'll make an exception for this game.
:thurman:

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

hot balls man no homo posted:

The "W" key costs extra on this keyboard.

Hav posted:

You just cost someone their weekend.
:lol:

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:
cyperpunk looks good not a fan of everything but def looks very good.

cant wait for SQ 42 the QTE game now. Man that will be poo poo on so hard.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
Does CIG even anything besides the Print Screen button? I know FFXIV has a special screenshot mode where you can mess with poses, lighting, cameras, filters, etc., so I assumed that's what the Battlefield tweet was talking about.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

AngusPodgorny posted:

Does CIG even anything besides the Print Screen button? I know FFXIV has a special screenshot mode where you can mess with poses, lighting, cameras, filters, etc., so I assumed that's what the Battlefield tweet was talking about.

Weeeell… sometimes, they have over-the-actual-shoulder camera shots of screens — glare and all.

kilus aof
Mar 24, 2001

It wasn't till the 2013 release of Star Citizen's Hangar Module that anyone had the idea to make in game screenshots. With the spread of this revolutionary idea Star Citizen has already saved gaming. Chris Roberts is a true visionary.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

AngusPodgorny posted:

Does CIG even anything besides the Print Screen button? I know FFXIV has a special screenshot mode where you can mess with poses, lighting, cameras, filters, etc., so I assumed that's what the Battlefield tweet was talking about.

Yeah but Square Enix copied that from Star Citizen.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
YOUTUBE: Calling All Devs - Robbit Season

Haven’t watched it but downvotes exceed upvotes, apparently due to audio issues(?)

:lol: No audio on his first interview, right after Lando says “I’m a professional!”

He’s filmed several episodes back to back so he can get his European vacation on. So these are going to get staler as we go.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Aug 27, 2018

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Calling All Devs - Robbit Season

Haven’t watched it but downvotes exceed upvotes, apparently due to audio issues(?)

Someone forgot to do the simple job of checking the video before uploading. It contains an entire interview segment without audio.
:thumbsup:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

G0RF posted:

I missed out on Starlancer but have watched some playthroughs. It does make for an interesting compare and contrast, especially next to the Squadron slice. Starlancer seemed pretty eager to set up the plot and throw you right into the action. And the dogfighting still looks pretty solid today all things considered.

The slice just spends an hour avoiding the action and forcing you to instead savor the scenery and cutscenes. (Oh, and the wonderful puzzles!)

Hopefully we’ll still get some Squadron hype reels for CitizenCon. Maybe even with gameplay for a change. Or what passes for it in Roberts mind these days...

Star lancer was pretty fun, but if I remember it had a level about half way through the game where I think you were just transferred to another carrier (your original one was blown up :aaaaa: ) and there was some kind of a time attack thing where you had to save a very weak ship. If I remember it was very hard and failing it just ended the game with a cutscene.

I don't think I got past that, it was very frustrating. It was a long mission, and the last segment had this sudden escort or save us thing, and it was tough. Going through the whole mission to fail at the last part over and over was infuriating.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
This is the the next level in CIG videos. Now you get to imagine the developer saying whatever words you want to hear.

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Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Calling All Devs - Robbit Season

Haven’t watched it but downvotes exceed upvotes, apparently due to audio issues(?)

:lol: No audio on his first interview, right after Lando says “I’m a professional!”

He’s filmed several episodes back to back so he can get his European vacation on. So these are going to get staler as we go.

I'm the $200M company that uploads videos to my official youtube channel in front of millions of citizens, and didn't spend a minute to double-check that the video was properly recorded.

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