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Before Holmes-chat is over I'd like to put in a little plug for the 1954 t.v. series - they somehow manage to introduce a problem, work through a solution to it and have some nice characterization and the odd comedy bit within a 27 minute show https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmHgXUJMN1TVtqyVXJ4D3ozPxgwpV-UpQ The Holmes and Watson are top class. To fit the thread title, one episode which hasn't aged well is the one where the nice little old lady is revealed to be a serial killer of perfectly innocent young men and when she is found out, she is still presented sympathetically. Pookah has a new favorite as of 17:58 on Aug 27, 2018 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Was there a reason the locked-room mystery in the bunker needed to be arranged to look like a suicide? Because it felt like the murderer just wanted to be a dick to police. That seems like a workable motive.
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Aug 27, 2018 18:22
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Pookah posted:Before Holmes-chat is over I'd like to put in a little plug for the 1954 t.v. series - they somehow manage to introduce a problem, work through a solution to it and have some nice characterization and the odd comedy bit within a 27 minute show Arsenic and Old Lace was presented as a comedy.
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Mu Zeta posted:You can unlock your chakras and apparently fire as well using yoga I always assume thats what people mean when they say hot yoga.
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Aug 27, 2018 18:46
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tactlessbastard posted:Arsenic and Old Lace was presented as a comedy. Is it not?
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Aug 27, 2018 23:01
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Has anyone mentioned Murder By Decree, the 1979 movie directed by Bob Clark (director of Porky's and A Christmas Story) where Holmes and Watson hunt down Jack the Ripper? It's not bad, but that could just be my patriotically forgiving Canadian eyes.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:27
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My favourite Holmes pastiche is Kim Newman's Moriarty novel. It's good fun, probably because it's about Moriarty but the main character and narrator is Moran.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:47
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Has anyone actually read Kareem's book about Mycroft? Because I love that fat bastard and I am deeply curious now.
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Decided to give Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon another watch for... I hate myself.  e; 
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HopperUK posted:Has anyone actually read Kareem's book about Mycroft? Because I love that fat bastard and I am deeply curious now. There was some mention of him in the Arthur Conan Doyle books that was so hilarious that I've never forgotten the context. It was something like "Mycroft is a especially large man, at the heart of the British government and possessed of as keen or perhaps greater mind then I, but so lazy he would rather stay at the club and ruminate and make logical guesses and decisions with the information brought to him and possibly be wrong rather then having to go out and determine the truth for himself."
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Aug 28, 2018 00:15
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MariusLecter posted:Decided to give Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon another watch for... I hate myself. And just in case you didn’t know, John K is not only an unfunny hack, but a rapist of children who will probably be prosecuted soon.
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Aug 28, 2018 00:21
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It's probably a combination of nostalgia and the fact that I haven't watched Ren & Stimpy in 20 years but that animation just looks...wrong to me for some reason. Also when looking it up on the wiki quote:Billy West declined to participate in the show, saying that the show was "not funny" and that joining it would have damaged his career Good choice
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Aug 28, 2018 12:15
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I will never not love the grotesque animation of Ren and Stimpy, however mediocre everything else about the show.
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Aug 28, 2018 14:19
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In retrospect, I probably watched Ren and Stimpy because my mother hated it rather than because I liked it. 
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Aug 28, 2018 14:24
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yeah the new ren and stimpy was terrible, as was all of spike tv the music in the old series is good. not gonna pretend I never liked it because the dude turned out to be a creep, lol
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Aug 28, 2018 14:24
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They had a catchy song about logs. And it was cool because prior to that there wasn't really any gross out cartoons for stoner college students. I'm not saying Ren & Stimpy was ever good, but it's all we had okay.
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Aug 28, 2018 14:25
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Oh god Ren's teeth falling out
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Aug 28, 2018 14:33
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Krispy Wafer posted:They had a catchy song about logs. Let us not forget that cartoons in the 80's were just 30 minute infomercials for toys.
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Calaveron posted:Oh god Ren's teeth falling out This unwanted memory just caused me physical discomfort so
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The Bloop posted:This unwanted memory just caused me physical discomfort so  Bonus: 
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Aug 28, 2018 15:54
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/\/\/\/\/\ gently caress you man i don't wanna see torture porn from a kiddie diddler who has a weird obsession with his abusive dad. it's like, mel gibson but with animation. Talking about 30 Rock in another thread and I realized - as much as I love it, there are many things that make it not have aged well, because it was from a more innocent time when everyone assumed we'd keep moving in a progressive direction. And even though it makes light of liz's racism, and pete's (his booze being stolen by some "black *pauses, sees POC around him* HEARTED individual"), it feels much less innocent when you consider they are the most powerful people in the show and are openly racist at times. Also a LOT of the Regina Bookman/Jack Donaghy stuff is rough now - her challenging NBC for more diversity is portrayed as Al-Sharpton-style political grandstanding in order to be re-elected, Jack is portrayed as the misunderstood white man who supports diversity and even has a passionate speech about immigrants making America great, completely missing the point that they're still not hiring/programming in a way which reflects this belief. I am currently rewatching it and there are things here making me wince, yikes yikes yikes. Definitely some #alllivesmatter #notallmen BS going on here. Tina Fey is a liberal person, but she's still an upper-middle-class white person from Pennsylvania and it shoooows. StrangersInTheNight has a new favorite as of 16:02 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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StrangersInTheNight posted:/\/\/\/\/\ gently caress you man i don't wanna see torture porn from a kiddie diddler who has a weird obsession with his abusive dad. it's like, mel gibson but with animation. What about Mad Max 2/The Road Warrior? It's still a really good movie
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Iron Crowned posted:What about Mad Max 2/The Road Warrior? It's still a really good movie Mel is fine. You can still enjoy Mel's movies even if he has poo poo opinions about a lot of things. Payback is still one of my favorite films. Just don't go drinking wi...you know, gently caress it. Go drinking with Mel. It's probably a blast. Just have an escape plan and don't get in the car with him.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Mel is fine. You can still enjoy Mel's movies even if he has poo poo opinions about a lot of things. Payback is still one of my favorite films. also, lawyer and a few witnesses ready, just in case, so you can bring the motherfucker down e: it's only entrapment if the police does it I think?
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Aug 28, 2018 16:17
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I feel like Ren and Stimpy was only good because of the restrictions placed on it by Nick required it to be a bit clever, and once Johnny K could just draw and animate a straight-up assfucking scene the show got lazy.
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Aug 28, 2018 17:01
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Neito posted:I feel like Ren and Stimpy was only good because of the restrictions placed on it by Nick required it to be a bit clever, and once Johnny K could just draw and animate a straight-up assfucking scene the show got lazy. It was also a product of the times and groundbreaking in that gross out stuff basically didn't happen on that level. The earliest stuff was great but well...k himself is a total poo poo that doesn't play well with others. Apparently he'd just ignore deadlines and be all like  MY VISION whenever that or somebody telling him he couldn't do something came up. Nick keeping him on a leash definitely did a lot. Adult party cartoon was insane garbage.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It was also a product of the times and groundbreaking in that gross out stuff basically didn't happen on that level. The earliest stuff was great but well...k himself is a total poo poo that doesn't play well with others. Apparently he'd just ignore deadlines and be all like Didn’t he only do five episodes or so before they fired him?
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business hammocks posted:Didn’t he only do five episodes or so before they fired him? I want to say it was at least a season but I don't remember.
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IIRC it was not quite a full season
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Seven episodes, ending with Stimpy getting pregnant and giving birth to a turd cause he was constipated actually(obviously).
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Is there a word for the feeling you get when other people start to recognise that something popular you never liked is actually poo poo? Guessing it'll be German.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:/\/\/\/\/\ gently caress you man i don't wanna see torture porn from a kiddie diddler who has a weird obsession with his abusive dad. it's like, mel gibson but with animation. Honestly I don't have any memory of problematic jokes on that show but Tina Fey is white feminism personified so I wouldn't be surprised. I do want to rewatch sometime.
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Aug 28, 2018 18:51
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Henchman of Santa posted:Honestly I don't have any memory of problematic jokes on that show but Tina Fey is white feminism personified so I wouldn't be surprised. I do want to rewatch sometime. Depends on who you ask. Didn't TVIV go crazy over some joke that they hallucinated was offensive? Something like "What is this, the local?"?
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Aug 28, 2018 20:02
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Sunswipe posted:Is there a word for the feeling you get when other people start to recognise that something popular you never liked is actually poo poo? Guessing it'll be German. Vindication.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:14
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Neito posted:Depends on who you ask. Didn't TVIV go crazy over some joke that they hallucinated was offensive? Something like "What is this, the local?"? TVIV going insane and misinterpreting something no normal human would? That's preposterous.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:16
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business hammocks posted:Didn’t he only do five episodes or so before they fired him? He didn't finish the season; another animator took over. Years later when the entire series was released on dvd, John K was invited to do commentaries for all the episodes and from what I've heard spends all his time on the ones he had little-to-nothing to do with grousing about how they aren't how he would have done it.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:17
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Sunswipe posted:Is there a word for the feeling you get when other people start to recognise that something popular you never liked is actually poo poo? Guessing it'll be German. What about for the satisfaction you feel when someone you've always disliked does something that makes other people dislike them so you can finally have an excuse for your otherwise baseless enmity?
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MariusLecter posted:Decided to give Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon another watch for... I hate myself. Why is there rifling in the shotgun
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I’ve never smoked a cigarette, but I find it hard to believe that lighting suck end and sucking on the light end is that much worse than the normal way. It’s cigarette smoke either way. Someone who smokes, enlighten me.
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