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I actually read that in a post and now I'm having trouble finding it, so I might be wrong about that, in which case it does become a little more sketchy than I thought. I was definitely under the impression you had the option to just pay for the console and back out.
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veni veni veni posted:I dunno that's definitely a risk someone would be taking. But in a world full of actual disgusting scams that prey on the poor, this doesn't seem offensive at all, even if a theoretical price drop is a thing. Everything about it seems fair enough. Phil Spencer is making all the right moves and doesn't seem to let the corporate suits push him around like Don Mattrick probably did (and look how that turned out). He probably told them to shove their profiteering if they want the Xbox division to succeed next gen. Same goes for the Xbox adaptive controller: https://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-new-xbox-adaptive-controller-puts-disabled-players-back-in-the-game/ which is so niche that they could've gouged it but chose to keep it at $99.
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Fanatic posted:Phil Spencer is making all the right moves and doesn't seem to let the corporate suits push him around like Don Mattrick probably did Sorry but according to the developers of Time Splitter Mattrick was part of the problem.
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HoneyBakedMAN posted:Sorry if it came across as mocking poor people. It's just in my experience people who use payment plans or loans to purchase luxury items are almost always making terrible financial decisions in the end. I'm sure this does make financial sense to people who use it responsibly. Making poor financial decisions and owning an Xbox one go hand in hand
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Laserface posted:hows it gonna work when the someone signs up for 2 years and a month later the retail price of the console drops $50-100? I imagine this is a trial right now and they want to launch it for everyone on the next new Xbox one. That'd be the longest period of time consoles go without a price drop, starting at launch.
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Ineffiable posted:I imagine this is a trial right now and they want to launch it for everyone on the next new Xbox one. That'd be the longest period of time consoles go without a price drop, starting at launch. I think you're right, and a big reason for this plan is that the next Xbox will be prohibitively expensive for most ordinarily, given how powerful it would have to be to be a meaningful jump from the Bonx.
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In regards to the MCC, is the ~75GB of hard drive space required if everything that it offers is installed? I have 44GB available at the moment and I'm wondering how much more room I'll have to clear up if I want to experience everything the collection has to offer.
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Aug 28, 2018 13:17
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Its not a good deal in the least, unless you like paying full price for everything. The X1S plan is OK at best, but X1X's regularly go for $400-425 on ebay NEW, and as low as $320-350 new when eBay runs their 15-20% coupons. Unless this payment plan is going to adjust for sales (it won't), its garbage. Black Friday sales are coming up soon too. This is designed for people that cannot afford a console. This isn't even accounting for the numerous Xbox Live Gold sales.
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BisterdDave posted:In regards to the MCC, is the ~75GB of hard drive space required if everything that it offers is installed? I have 44GB available at the moment and I'm wondering how much more room I'll have to clear up if I want to experience everything the collection has to offer. Looks that way, yes. The ~75 gigs seems to include everything including the data for ODST (which you'd still have to own as DLC to be able to play, that "DLC" is just a 10 meg unlock file now). It also seems like you need this space to start off, and then you're able to clear space if that's something you want to do.
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univbee posted:I think you're right, and a big reason for this plan is that the next Xbox will be prohibitively expensive for most ordinarily, given how powerful it would have to be to be a meaningful jump from the Bonx. I'm imagining that the next generation cutoff is going to be blurred than before. What I mean is, remember the first year of Xbox one/PS4 where practically every game was available on old and new Gen? Even destiny was released on Xbox 360 and Xbox one in 2014. What if this time games just straight up work on new and older Gen? Just for the first year or something. The new generation runs it at higher resolution and more stable framerate plus extra effects. Same copy of the game sold, works on ps4/ps5 and its a year or two before we get true ps5 exclusives. But yes I'm thinking the new Xbox could start at $500 and if you have an Xbox one x you may not feel the need to upgrade for a year or two until the price drop but Microsoft can get in users with the finance plan. Or you could sell your one x and just pay the difference the new console. With Microsoft promising to keep your library, there wouldn't be any reason to keep an older Xbox one.
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I think it's going to be weirder than that, given that if you make a game run on a next-gen console at native 4K, I don't think you can do so in such a way that it would be impossible to have it running trivially at 900p on a regular Xbox One or PS4. The tech hasn't really shifted. Hell, in the PC space do we even have a single game yet with minimum requirements above 8 gigs of DDR3 system RAM (at least for 1080p non-VR)? It's not helped by the fact that buying X amount of RAM today for a PC is like twice as expensive as it was to buy that exact same kind and amount of RAM in late 2013, so PC's aren't even a driving force for that extra graphics push like they used to be back in the Crysis days.
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Ineffiable posted:I'm imagining that the next generation cutoff is going to be blurred than before. I still feel like we're just playing better-looking 360 games. Next gen cutoff will be blurry as gently caress.
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univbee posted:I think it's going to be weirder than that, given that if you make a game run on a next-gen console at native 4K, I don't think you can do so in such a way that it would be impossible to have it running trivially at 900p on a regular Xbox One or PS4. The tech hasn't really shifted. Hell, in the PC space do we even have a single game yet with minimum requirements above 8 gigs of DDR3 system RAM (at least for 1080p non-VR)? It's not helped by the fact that buying X amount of RAM today for a PC is like twice as expensive as it was to buy that exact same kind and amount of RAM in late 2013, so PC's aren't even a driving force for that extra graphics push like they used to be back in the Crysis days. Yeah, and if Sony really does make backwards compatibility for ps4 on the ps5, it'll make the first couple of years less of a pressure to upgrade. Want the ps5? You can sell your ps4. Want to wait for the price drop? You can keep playing your ps4 and continue to play the newer games, even if it's worse resolution and not as good framerate. And texture downscaled a bit. This could allow Microsoft and Sony to release $500 machines that can drop to $400 in a year and a half. What would be important is that the servers would be shared between the new and older consoles. With cross play on the rise, I could totally see this happening so Xbox can claim 'we have 10 million people playing halo infinite' even if just one million is on the new Xbox and the other 9 come from og Xbox one/one s/one x/pc.
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TheScott2K posted:I still feel like we're just playing better-looking 360 games. Next gen cutoff will be blurry as gently caress. We definitely are with way fewer exceptions than you'd think, considering games like Destiny and Metal Gear Solid V (both GZ and TPP) made it to PS3 and Xbox 360, and tons of Japanese games got PS3 versions as well as PS4 versions until pretty recently. And that was with the current gen consoles having 16 times the RAM as the previous gen systems. While we don't know a lot about the next gen systems, I'd be surprised if they even had 32 gigs of RAM, let alone 64 or 128.
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Ineffiable posted:Yeah, and if Sony really does make backwards compatibility for ps4 on the ps5, it'll make the first couple of years less of a pressure to upgrade. Want the ps5? You can sell your ps4. Want to wait for the price drop? You can keep playing your ps4 and continue to play the newer games, even if it's worse resolution and not as good framerate. And texture downscaled a bit. Ps3/ps4 crossplay is already pretty common in japanese fighting games
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Real hurthling! posted:Ps3/ps4 crossplay is already pretty common in japanese fighting games To be fair, more than most genres, fighting games are pretty much identical to how they were back in the Dreamcast days, and I'd argue even further at least for 2D games, although for those Dreamcast is around the time they really started figuring out how to make really fantastic fighting games like Third Strike.
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September Games with Gold, not quite as good as last months: Bone: Prison Architect LiveLock 360: Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars Sega Vintage Collection: Monster Wars https://majornelson.com/2018/08/28/xbox-live-games-with-gold-for-september-2018/
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Looking forward to the first e/n thread about not being to make the monthly xbonx payments
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Maneki Neko posted:September Games with Gold, not quite as good as last months: Look at that garbage
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TheScott2K posted:Look at that garbage It's nice to have a break every now and then to catch up on a backlog.
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Prison Architect looks awesome never played that, never heard of lIvelock, Star Wars will be fun co op with GF or online like most LEGO games, and the monster world arcade game has 3 monster world games include so really it’s like getting 6 games this month which is awesome. The monster world games are some of my favorite games. Xbox Stays Winning!
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Xbox Ambassador posted:Prison Architect looks awesome never played that, never heard of lIvelock, Star Wars will be fun co op with GF or online like most LEGO games, and the monster world arcade game has 3 monster world games include so really it’s like getting 6 games this month which is awesome. The monster world games are some of my favorite games. Xbox Stays Winning! LOL
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TheScott2K posted:Look at that garbage A month so dire even Nintendo's got better complementary offerings with its subscription service this month.
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Prison Architect has probably the best tutorial in gaming for what you have to do in it and how that frames the game for you from then on. Actual game is whatever
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univbee posted:A month so dire even Nintendo's got better complementary offerings with its subscription service this month. 
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CoD: Modern Warfare 2 just hit Backwards Compatible. On sale for $15 for gold members in the store.
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Sakurazuka posted:The Monster World games own tbh gently caress yes they do. And the one we are getting in XBL Gold has 3 of them
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KillianLett posted:CoD: Modern Warfare 2 just hit Backwards Compatible. On sale for $15 for gold members in the store. Xbox Stays Winning
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All the xboners are going to find out what a jtag-infested clusterfuck MW2 is now, just like when Blops2 went BC, and then never touch it again
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TheScott2K posted:All the xboners are going to find out what a jtag-infested clusterfuck MW2 is now, just like when Blops2 went BC, and then never touch it again Not having enough friends to play custom lobbies sounds fail no matter how you slice it
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TheScott2K posted:All the xboners are going to find out what a jtag-infested clusterfuck MW2 is now, just like when Blops2 went BC, and then never touch it again Ignorant question: What do you mean?
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KillianLett posted:Ignorant question: What do you mean? People playing on modded Xbox 360's with cheats enabled for the game. EDIT loving laffo it doesn't even have to be modded?
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MW2's lobbies went to poo poo back when I played it on PC. Basically was the reason I stopped playing. Damnit, I want my nostalgia of OMA-203-Nukes. 
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Xbox Ambassador posted:Not having enough friends to play custom lobbies sounds fail no matter how you slice it Nine year old games running emulated on an also-ran console, truly the venue to show your social prowess
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TheScott2K posted:Nine year old games running emulated on an also-ran console, truly the venue to show your social prowess You really don’t have friends do you?
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Xbox Ambassador posted:You really don’t have friends do you? Thank you for existing.
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TheScott2K posted:Thank you for existing. Really doesn’t answer the question but says everything we need to know lol
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