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Kazak posted:It's a good question, I'm excited to hear what your response is It's a stupid question because it relies on making extremely dumb assumptions
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Pirate Radar posted:Wouldn’t the paramedics just get paid more than $15 
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My anxiety became way less paralysing when i was made fulltime. It’s almost like job security and being valued as an employee has positive effects on your mental health.
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The Bloop posted:It's a stupid question because it relies on making extremely dumb assumptions Those assumptions being? Perry Mason Jar posted:
Thanks for the answers. For the past 9 months I've been doing a full court press approach to my own well being, physical and mental (less rigorous than your approach). Regular gym schedule, consistent sleep, better diet, socializing more, and regular therapy sessions. Agreed re: therapy. If I hadn't found a great cognitive behavioral therapist to challenge my long held notions and provide me with tools to identify/subvert my negative automatic thoughts, all the other stuff would have been much more of a struggle and ultimately inconsequential if I can't wrangle my state of mind instead of it wrangling me. Now,a picture 
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"you're not supposed to live off of minimum wage"  --An actual argument I've heard against raising the minimum wage, said by multiple people over the years.
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Accretionist posted:"This is real life, buddy, the gently caress's deserve got to do with anything?" Oh but don't you know capitalism is a meritocracy? If you do 1000x the work, you get paid 1000x more. It's a 1:1 relationship all the way down from do-nothing fast food 'workers' to literally-breaking-the-laws-of-spacetime billionaire tycoons
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Peanut President posted:"why ain't you a billionaire loving supermodels in tahiti then, shitforbrains?" "I would be if the government didn't steal all my money for taxes to pay foreign aid to the brown people in durka-durka-stan  "
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I'm imagining a lot of you 'engaging' with real life offline folks and cursing under your breath when they speak their dissatisfaction with the status quo in a way you find abhorrent What draws you to socialism or communism if not a compassion for workers? https://mobile.twitter.com/stavvybaby/status/1025416397072068608
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Communist Walrus posted:The various state and federal regulations designed to make gun ownership as onerous as possible ensure that the American public remains weak, powerless, and entirely incapable of armed insurrection Lmao what country have you been living in, it's trivially easy to buy a gun right now in a lot of states and definitely federally dude. They're not even like, registered or tracked past the initial purchase. Source: my wife is a weirdo who collects guns and it's shockingly easy for her to buy as many as she wants with virtually no restrictions or oversight
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Iron Crowned posted:"you're not supposed to live off of minimum wage" It's honestly a shame that even minimum wage workers forget that minimum wage is the government saying "No one can live with less than this so pay up you cheap-rear end greedy motherfuckers" but then the government is so worried about what these naysayers think of them and losing power that they never push it high enough.
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Kazak posted:I'm imagining a lot of you 'engaging' with real life offline folks and cursing under your breath when they speak their dissatisfaction with the status quo in a way you find abhorrent The last interaction I had like this was with my coworker, who's dissatisfaction with the status quo was "gently caress people on welfare, they should stop being so lazy and reliant on government handouts and take more personal responsibility" to which I responded "I am going to punch you in the face" before realizing that's probably not something you want to say out loud to coworkers. He luckily took it as a joke.
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I should mention that this was right after he talked about applying for and receiving unemployment benefits, because he earned them of course. Seriously gently caress that guy, ugh.
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g0lbez posted:I always thought those SSRI headzap withdraws felt exactly like the poison effect looks when you walk around in final fantasy It really does. I was on Cymbalta (an SNRI) for awhile, and if I went more than 24 hrs without taking it, I'd get a migraine, because it has a half-life of only 12 hours. Literally if I took it at 10 AM one day, and noon the next, I would start to get a migraine. I am all for psych meds nowadays, since I'm properly diagnosed and getting the right ones. But I would never recommend Cymbalta to anyone for anything. Which, considering it's one of the only approved meds for fibro, really sucks. Schneider Inside Her posted:My anxiety became way less paralysing when i was made fulltime. It’s almost like job security and being valued as an employee has positive effects on your mental health. Last summer all I could think about was how the only way I'd be able to support myself if something happened to my fiance would be to push my self to 110% capacity at all times. Just live a life of not being able to do anything but work because of the pain. While cycling between mania and depression, all wrapped up with anxiety that makes it hard to function at all. Just trapped inside my own mental hell for the rest of my life. Assuming, of course, I could even handle that, and didn't just end up another mentally ill homeless person. It definitely was a huge reason I was suicidal.
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Kazak posted:I'm imagining a lot of you 'engaging' with real life offline folks and cursing under your breath when they speak their dissatisfaction with the status quo in a way you find abhorrent extremely blessed video
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Kazak posted:Those assumptions being? The primary dumb assumption baked into the question is that anyone thinks fast food workers should be making more than paramedics. No one does. That's dumb. There are certainly people who would be perfectly happy if fast food workers and paramedics made the same amount of money if it was a real living wage, but barring Full Communism Now or some other pipe-dream, that's not what would happen. Jobs that need a scarce skill set and jobs that really suck to do will get paid more than other jobs simply because if an employee is doing a super stressful job that they don't really love and they can make the same money for doing a throwaway job, the stressful job is not going to be able to hire or keep anyone employed. So they are going to have to sweeten the pot somehow, and the simplest way is with higher pay. Now, perhaps the best case scenario is that people get a basic income upon which they can live so that they can tell bosses to gently caress right off when they are being exploited or otherwise mistreated. This is actually the only way that genuine negotiation can happen between an employee and employer. The current system is inherently imbalanced to a ludicrous degree and anyone claiming that workers have a fair seat at the table are charlatans or idiots (or both)
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Aug 28, 2018 17:38
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Like 90% of people earning a pay check are underpaid hope that helps.
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Kazak posted:I'm imagining a lot of you 'engaging' with real life offline folks and cursing under your breath when they speak their dissatisfaction with the status quo in a way you find abhorrent Yeah, like, at most, I got through to three people and it wasn't worth the aggravation. I am god damned terrible at persuasion. Though I will always fondly recall the guy who had a thousand yard stare when the light bulb went off. Quick Version: We're machinists and he's assembling brass fixtures for a major manufacturer. Critical parts. I ask how much we're charging. He says about $50,000 each, sounds proud. I ask what we'd charge for the parts loose. He guesses about $10,000 per set. I ask how long it takes to assemble a fixture. He says about 45 minutes. In a suggestive tone, while laughing a little, I ask how much he's getting paid per hour? He immediately freezes with this thousand yard stare. After a few seconds, his head droops a bit and he goes back to work without saying a thing. Body language switches to looking defeated.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Like 90% of people earning a pay check are underpaid hope that helps. This is my preferred angle. Anytime someone bemoans a rising wage it throws into sharp focus just how little everyone is compensated compared to the value of their work. But not everyone is inclined to see it from that perspective, at first. Why do McDonald's employees deserve more money? Better question, don't you deserve more, Mr ambulance driver?
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Rarity posted:This rules Guy also rules cause Amazon threatened to fire him if he didn't take the video down. Well, the video is still up, so that guy's a good dude.
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Tetracube posted:extremely blessed video Rarity posted:This rules I figured this video already made the rounds itt. Everyone, do yourselves a favor and watch this (with headphones if you're at work, then share it with your coworkers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykb6Nk9_PjI Ardent Communist posted:Guy also rules cause Amazon threatened to fire him if he didn't take the video down. Well, the video is still up, so that guy's a good dude. I heard they fired him for it, hence https://www.gofundme.com/z9h8cc-support-antoine-fired-4-strike-vid
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Can't afford medical assistance? Lonely, isolated and depressed? To be fair I didn't watch the video but the article title and image was more than enough to make me recoil, who is inventing this stuff that thinks it's a good idea?
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Kazak posted:This is my preferred angle. Anytime someone bemoans a rising wage it throws into sharp focus just how little everyone is compensated compared to the value of their work. But not everyone is inclined to see it from that perspective, at first. Why do McDonald's employees deserve more money? Better question, don't you deserve more, Mr ambulance driver? I'm pretty sure most people don't ever think about, like, the amount of value they add to their company's product or service. Often it's kinda difficult anyway because it's a sorta vaguely defined thing for a lot of jobs but even in cases where it's clear people seem to just like, not even consider it when judging if they're being paid fairly or not.
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Yeah, it's distressing watching working class people actively root for WORSE working conditions because Tomi Lahren told them workers rights and fair wages are communism. I've seen a lot of people defending loving Amazon and if you ever criticize Jeff Bezos or suggest that his labor practices are like something out of a dystopian novel they'll get mad and say that you just hate successful people.
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Elderbean posted:Yeah, it's distressing watching working class people actively root for WORSE working conditions because Tomi Lahren told them workers rights and fair wages are communism. I've seen a lot of people defending loving Amazon and if you ever criticize Jeff Bezos or suggest that their labor practices are like something out of a dystopian novel they'll get mad and say that you hate success. Being rich is not a crime!!!! yet 
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ate all the Oreos posted:I should mention that this was right after he talked about applying for and receiving unemployment benefits, because he earned them of course. Seriously gently caress that guy, ugh. The only chud in my family who totally hates all the dirty libs just wanting hand outs lives on disability after a work injury
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ate all the Oreos posted:I'm pretty sure most people don't ever think about, like, the amount of value they add to their company's product or service. Often it's kinda difficult anyway because it's a sorta vaguely defined thing for a lot of jobs but even in cases where it's clear people seem to just like, not even consider it when judging if they're being paid fairly or not. That's why we talk with our coworkers and peers and family about this sort of thing. Bosses and property owners have a vested interest in people not connecting the dots between labor and profit. See: accretionist's post above.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Being rich is not a crime!!!! Being actually rich is evidence of multiple crimes, though
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bag em and tag em posted:The only chud in my family who totally hates all the dirty libs just wanting hand outs lives on disability after a work injury My parents love Trump, hate anyone on welfare, and both work for the government and are in unions. They can't see the irony.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Being rich is not a crime!!!! i didn't know that judge ellis posted here
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  Love that thick man yogurt
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IKillForPie posted:Can't afford medical assistance? Lonely, isolated and depressed? This isn't that wild of an idea. A lot of people are better at opening up to non-human therapy, since you don't feel judged. There's a few programs out there that give veterans with PTSD a dog, because they can confide all of their fears and anxieties into a cute dog. Hopefully this chatbot would just be the first step in someone's therapy, where they would then eventually go talk to a person, but it's definitely a good idea if it's built right.
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:
God drat this is dainty_masculinity.jpg
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Fashionable Jorts posted:This isn't that wild of an idea. A lot of people are better at opening up to non-human therapy, since you don't feel judged. There's a few programs out there that give veterans with PTSD a dog, because they can confide all of their fears and anxieties into a cute dog. Veterans in particular can have huge toxic masculinity problems as see it as weakness to "talk about their feelings". You can get like 6 secret counseling sessions that wont show up on your medical record by calling a secret number. But even that might be too much for some macho minded types. So I agree. This could actually be really good step against a bad cultural thing. Also the military is doing annual mental health evaluations now. But you can just lie on those forms. An Avenue that is perceived as a zero judgment anonymous source for help is a super good option.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:This isn't that wild of an idea. A lot of people are better at opening up to non-human therapy, since you don't feel judged. There's a few programs out there that give veterans with PTSD a dog, because they can confide all of their fears and anxieties into a cute dog. Ok but a dog can't talk back and doesn't know how to judge you, a bot tries to behave like a person, and there's the implicit knowledge that it's being logged for review by people later. Also bots are still very bad and awkward to talk to. Also also I guarantee the idea isn't actually "help suicidal people seek treatment" it's "this way insurance companies don't have to pay for you to see a real doctor unless the bot decides you need one" e: I mean my insurance company already pushes their online chat medical consulting service thing super hard, it wouldn't be much of a stretch Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 19:36 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:Love that thick man yogurt But can you fight your food or use your food for fighting  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTAXUYLbFYk
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Inept posted:But can you fight your food or use your food for fighting COMBAT chocolate milk
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mycomancy posted:God drat this is dainty_masculinity.jpg There isn't even more protein than regular yogurt its just bigger lol 
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