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Fashionable Jorts posted:Banksy is anti-establishment art designed to appeal to your parents. It's very safe, and has never actually pushed a boundary once. I've already poo poo-talked Banky and I'll do it again but this isn't true. Painting Cristo el Redentor to look like Osama Bin Laden with a bullet in his chest was boundary pushing, decent art.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I've already poo poo-talked Banky and I'll do it again but this isn't true. Painting Cristo el Redentor to look like Osama Bin Laden with a bullet in his chest was boundary pushing, decent art.
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 19:46 |
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Isn't Banksy also worth tens of millions of dollars? "Take that society!" says a man who has more money than 99% of humans on this planet will ever see in their life.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Isn't Banksy also worth tens of millions of dollars? "Take that society!" says a man who has more money than 99% of humans on this planet will ever see in their life. Even disregarding that, the fact that his art is torn off walls and sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars kinda tells me it's not really doing a great job of making its point to the kind of people in a position to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a section of Banksy-touched wall.
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I said decent and boundary pushing, not good.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Isn't Banksy also worth tens of millions of dollars? banksy is anonymous so there's no way to know this really, sounds like someone making poo poo up tbh it's possible banksy is a group of people, who knows
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I said decent and boundary pushing, not good. I hope someone somewhere has actually made holographic washington / hitler, I'd totally hang it on my wall to upset my chud relatives next thanksgiving.
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quote:In 2013, Forbes said the £14million ($20million) artist did not want his art to be worth anything. guess I'd better horde this money instead of giving it to charities
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Inept posted:guess I'd better horde this money instead of giving it to charities from the same article quote:Take the water tank on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, overlooking the Pacific Coast Highway outside of LA. Thinking the old tank was abandoned, Banksy painted a caption on the side of it "This Looks A Bit Like An Elephant", and instantly turned it into a tourist attraction and a potential money-maker for two owners of a media design firm that bought the tank from the city of LA with plans to remove and sell it. There was just one complication - the homeless man, Tachowa Covington, who had been living inside of it for seven years and suddenly had his home destroyed.
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Inept posted:guess I'd better horde this money instead of giving it to charities
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ate all the Oreos posted:Even disregarding that, the fact that his art is torn off walls and sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars kinda tells me it's not really doing a great job of making its point to the kind of people in a position to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a section of Banksy-touched wall. Who cares if messaging is lost on people? its no good to go through life letting your enjoyment of things be determined by whether or not you're in the right company of people
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Kazak posted:Who cares if messaging is lost on people? its no good to go through life letting your enjoyment of things be determined by whether or not you're in the right company of people thats basically all the internet is these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N9Uyv6hy8E
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luxury handset posted:He went on to remove the water tank from his website, and refused to authenticate it for the new owners. It's still on his website, only like 20 or so images deep into the "outdoors" slideshow
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ate all the Oreos posted:It's still on his website, only like 20 or so images deep into the "outdoors" slideshow Maybe he put it back after they scrapped it? Anyway, Banksy has some good work and lots of meh work. A lot of the triteness comes from overexposure too, i think. People removing an entire wall with what's supposed to be public art to sell it to art speculators is a pretty good example of capitalism ruining everything it touches to be honest.
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I hope some business somewhere has paid Mr. Bailey the "Productivity Consultant" $200,000 only to be told "work harder"
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ate all the Oreos posted:I hope someone somewhere has actually made holographic washington / hitler, I'd totally hang it on my wall to upset my chud relatives next thanksgiving. Hanging Hitler's portrait on your wall to own the chuds.
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Paladinus posted:Hanging Hitler's portrait on your wall to own the chuds. San Francisco man flies Nazi flag to protest Trump presidency
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Banksy is anti-establishment art designed to appeal to your parents. It's very safe, and has never actually pushed a boundary once. The tropical island see through picture on the wall in the West Bank is cool
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My aunt was in the air force during Desert Storm; she said that on her base they had one firepit for literally all their trash-- food, tires, vehicle waste, printer cartridges, munitions, tent canvas, body armor. This fire pit was near the center of the base and the smog from the fire gave her (and likely everyone else on base) lovely Lungs Disease.
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Yeah they did that poo poo in OIF and I'm assuming OEF as well
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Evilreaver posted:My aunt was in the air force during Desert Storm; she said that on her base they had one firepit for literally all their trash-- food, tires, vehicle waste, printer cartridges, munitions, tent canvas, body armor. This fire pit was near the center of the base and the smog from the fire gave her (and likely everyone else on base) lovely Lungs Disease. You'll be happy to know the military was still doing this 15 years later and probably continuing today, except they started including literal bags of poo poo when burning trash in forward operating bases without any kind of sanitation services. At least they had the sense to move the burn areas to the perimeter of the bases so the only people getting lovely Lung Disease were the poor fucks whose job it was to poke at the burn pile with a stick.
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Communist Walrus posted:At least they had the sense to move the burn areas to the perimeter of the bases so the only people getting lovely Lung Disease were the poor fucks whose job it was to poke at the burn pile with a stick. Please tell me there's a MOS code for "garbage fire specialist"
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ate all the Oreos posted:Please tell me there's a MOS code for "garbage fire specialist" Republican party strategy analyst
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Kazak posted:There's probably a term for a creative work that is watered down over time by exposure and imitation and it becomes harder to appreciate the original, I think banksy fits that mold Dunno if it's exactly what you mean but process where transgressive cultural stuff from a subculture is taken up and made toothless by the majority culture is called recuperation. This would be like jazz going from the scary negro to what you can hear in fancy places or elevators Same with rock and roll, hip hop, punk, the Simpsons, the letter A in a circle, che tshirts, weed to an extent, etc forever. At one point and sometimes in stages all those things had various amounts of blow back from the mainstream. People were legit saying Bart was corrupting the youth(!). There were times, and maybe there still are, where if you walked into a honky tonk bar you could end up turbo murdered. That's not a term that is real tough sounding today maybe. What's the name of the piece I'm thinking of, some goon will know. 1800s. Paris. Maybe something involving the spirit of spring? drat near caused riots. Would be boring and lame today. This probably goes back to Babylonians and the gods drat youth and their beard rings pissing off shamash (two generations later statues of the god have the same ring) I don't know what the opposite process is called tho. Like when booze got prohibition. Dunno if that's even really analogous
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Banksy is the Sensible Chuckle Weekly of street art.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:
Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP42C-4zL3w If you consider what other music sounded like until then, it makes sense. Even today it's not boring, imgo. The original choreography was pretty insane too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvVKWapctX4 Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 00:51 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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ate all the Oreos posted:Please tell me there's a MOS code for "garbage fire specialist" It's all of them
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Kazak posted:Who cares if messaging is lost on people? its no good to go through life letting your enjoyment of things be determined by whether or not you're in the right company of people banksy is a bourgeois gently caress
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Communist Walrus posted:It's all of them a skill level -10 task, really, yeah
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ate all the Oreos posted:Even disregarding that, the fact that his art is torn off walls and sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars kinda tells me it's not really doing a great job of making its point to the kind of people in a position to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a section of Banksy-touched wall. Blu outright destroyed his own works as soon as he caught wind that they might have ended up in a gallery
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hackbunny posted:Blu outright destroyed his own works as soon as he caught wind that they might have ended up in a gallery Blu is amazing, he did the same with his iconic piece in Kreuzberg when a developer bought the ground to build fancy apartments. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/19/why-we-painted-over-berlin-graffiti-kreuzberg-murals
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Dunno if it's exactly what you mean but process where transgressive cultural stuff from a subculture is taken up and made toothless by the majority culture is called recuperation. Good stuff
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring The original choreography is lost. We only can guess from contemporary descriptions. The ballet was about sacrificing a virgin basically. It was so obscene at the time, with the "native" dancing, the girl dying violently on stage, and the jarring music. I don't think it would have been received well as an orchestral work alone, but I don't think it would have caused the riots and gotten the raging hatred that it did without the choreography of Nijinsky.
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g0lbez posted:I always thought those SSRI headzap withdraws felt exactly like the poison effect looks when you walk around in final fantasy poo poo, that's apt. I always compared it to the sensation of touching both posts of a 9 volt battery to your tongue, except in your soft wet brain.
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Moridin920 posted:I mean I'd have to double check my numbers (am mobile) but what do people like this say when you tell them something like 95% of all outstanding shares on the NYSE are owned by the top 20% of US households? Yeah it is really weird. I know trumpists who on election day were saying how the stock market is a meaningless indicator for the health of the economy (true) and how unemployment is artificially made lower by not including people who find it too hopeless to search for jobs (also true) then the day after they start proclaiming that trump has given us the greatest economy ever as evidenced by the stock market and unemployment rates. Ofc these same people also claim the great recession and the stock market crash preceding it were caused simply by Obama being ahead in the polls so they're legit morons. It would just be nice for some consistency.
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Raldikuk posted:Yeah it is really weird. I know trumpists who on election day were saying how the stock market is a meaningless indicator for the health of the economy (true) and how unemployment is artificially made lower by not including people who find it too hopeless to search for jobs (also true) then the day after they start proclaiming that trump has given us the greatest economy ever as evidenced by the stock market and unemployment rates. Good thing = our fault. Bad thing = their fault.
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Raldikuk posted:It would just be nice for some consistency. Right? That's all I really want. I'll disagree and think you're wrong still maybe but at least have some coherent internally consistent arguments. E: /\/\/\ gently caress
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I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. Evilreaver posted:My aunt was in the air force during Desert Storm; she said that on her base they had one firepit for literally all their trash-- food, tires, vehicle waste, printer cartridges, munitions, tent canvas, body armor. This fire pit was near the center of the base and the smog from the fire gave her (and likely everyone else on base) lovely Lungs Disease. I read a story in GiP about one time on a West German US Army base where they burned a bunch of pallets that were Vietnam War surplus. The treatment that they had put on the wood to stop it from being rotted by tropical parasites was catalysed to a methamphetamine analog by the fire, and assaults, indecent behaviour and general crime on base went up by over a thousand percent that week.
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Memento posted:I read a story in GiP about one time on a West German US Army base where they burned a bunch of pallets that were Vietnam War surplus. The treatment that they had put on the wood to stop it from being rotted by tropical parasites was catalysed to a methamphetamine analog by the fire, and assaults, indecent behaviour and general crime on base went up by over a thousand percent that week. That sounds made up as all gently caress, if only because I don't buy that the military would care enough to actually run any sort of chemical analysis to figure out why even if something like that did happen.
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