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Ariong posted:I’ve never smoked a cigarette, but I find it hard to believe that lighting suck end and sucking on the light end is that much worse than the normal way. It’s cigarette smoke either way. The filter (suck end) is a spongy piece of plastic.
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Ariong posted:I’ve never smoked a cigarette, but I find it hard to believe that lighting suck end and sucking on the light end is that much worse than the normal way. It’s cigarette smoke either way. The filter is typically plastic fiber. Safe to put in your mouth but if you get it hot enough to burn it it might give off chemicals you don't want to be inhaling. Assuming the thing will even burn in the first place; I think they just melt so it's pretty unlikely Stimpy would actually even be able to do that.
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Aug 29, 2018 01:54
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What most people end up doing is smoking a cigarette in a way that ends up melting the filter as they smoke normally. Either by puffing rapidly which heats up the filter or smoking a cigarette down to the filter itself.
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Aug 29, 2018 01:57
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Henchman of Santa posted:Honestly I don't have any memory of problematic jokes on that show but Tina Fey is white feminism personified so I wouldn't be surprised. I do want to rewatch sometime. I ended up skipping an episode that had a joke where Pete was having sex with his passed out wife (or she could have just been asleep) but that was the only one that stood out on a recent rewatch of the series.
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Aug 29, 2018 02:18
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Smoking the filter is bad for you. Smoking it regular gets you laid.
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Aug 29, 2018 02:46
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Some heavy smokers cut the filter off the cigarettes so it can't be that bad
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MariusLecter posted:What most people end up doing is smoking a cigarette in a way that ends up melting the filter as they smoke normally. If you light the filter end and start to draw the smoke into your mouth, you will immediately taste something like burnt plastic but somehow worse. Very bitter. You would never inhale the smoke as your throat will close immediately. If you smoke the cigarette "down to the filter" you're not really smoking the filter. It just looks like that. The tobacco goes past the line that delineates the filter. The only people that start to melt the filter when they smoke are people that smoke several packs a day and smoke a single cigarette in less than a minute. Most people take about 7 minutes to have a cigarette. I worked with a guy that could pound down a Marb Red in 45 seconds all the way to the filter. The cherry was the full length of the cigarette. It was nuts. He was French. He was abut 50, smoked his whole life, and never coughed.
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mostlygray posted:He was French. Checks out.
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Aug 29, 2018 03:21
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The filter is typically plastic fiber. Safe to put in your mouth but if you get it hot enough to burn it it might give off chemicals you don't want to be inhaling. So it's a cigarette
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Aug 29, 2018 07:47
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Byzantine posted:So it's a cigarette Cigarettes may give off chemicals that I shouldn't be inhaling, but that's not the same as chemicals I don't want to be inhaling.
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Aug 29, 2018 08:08
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The smoking scene kinda comes off as a parody of the lovingly rendered smoking you saw in classic cartoons.
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Aug 29, 2018 12:09
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Milo and POTUS posted:Why is there rifling in the shotgun To be fair to John K, he probably never considered looking down the barrel of a shotgun until recently.
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Detective No. 27 posted:To be fair to John K, he probably never considered looking down the barrel of a shotgun until recently. drat son
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Aug 29, 2018 14:36
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Milo and POTUS posted:Why is there rifling in the shotgun Not a gun expert, but I seem to recall you can get rifled shotguns, if only because ‘smoothbore’ is a thing. Why qualify smoothbore if there’s no other variety?
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Aug 29, 2018 14:48
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rifled shotguns barrels do exist, they're used for firing slugs
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Aug 29, 2018 14:56
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Truga posted:rifled shotguns barrels do exist, they're used for firing slugs Ye, been reading up on the Paradox Gun, rifled for the last 2” of the bore, for pellets or slugs, and invented by Fosbery, of Webley-Fosbery fame.
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/\/\/\ I can guarantee all of you that John K did not think this hard about the gun, he just wanted a clear-to-identify-at-a-glance cartoon shotgun. John K is a man who should have remained an animator, and should have then just been directed by someone with better directing chops. John K obsessed too much on if it this shot or that was pushed enough/animated extremely enough to bring about his retro vision. But he also had too much ego to really let anyone take the reigns and direct, or tell him what to do in any capacity, and got his rear end canned for it. Please enjoy this clip of him from the Adult Party commentary, calling female tv executives dykes, and scaring the poo poo outta Katie Rice each time he speak loudly/moves suddenly (at the time he was trying to gently caress her but she managed to get outta that sitch safely, no thanks to anyone else): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ria8fqPqZe8 Henchman of Santa posted:Honestly I don't have any memory of problematic jokes on that show but Tina Fey is white feminism personified so I wouldn't be surprised. I do want to rewatch sometime. Yeah she is. I read her book and it actually really changed 30 Rock for me, because I realized a bunch of things I thought were jokey-jokes making light of things were sincere. B-Rock452 posted:I ended up skipping an episode that had a joke where Pete was having sex with his passed out wife (or she could have just been asleep) but that was the only one that stood out on a recent rewatch of the series. I remember that joke and oof yes, it's a rough one because they cut to a visual. His wife's asleep and he didn't wake her, just fucks her prone form - it's a continuation of the running joke that Pete's sex life with his wife is not really a sex life, just two people bumping genitals while thinking of other people (e.g how he reads nursing magazines and she wears headphones when they gently caress). That joke actually got flack at the time it aired in 2011/2012 or so, and got soundly ignored as 'overly sensitive SJW's and feminists angry about our media!'. At the time 30 Rock was getting flack for being maybe not as progressive as it claimed to be. That said, the Steve Austin episode was so prescient it's scary. StrangersInTheNight has a new favorite as of 15:38 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 15:27
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Yeah she is. I read her book and it actually really changed 30 Rock for me, because I realized a bunch of things I thought were jokey-jokes making light of things were sincere. Could you expand on this? Because I recollect that her book got very favourable reviews. I assumed it was preaching a favourable message.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:40
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nonathlon posted:Could you expand on this? Because I recollect that her book got very favourable reviews. I assumed it was preaching a favourable message. It's been a while since I read Bossypants, but I seem to remember there being a particular section on feminism and other women in Hollywood/women in business in general that was a lot less "yeah I may be successful but there are some still a lot of fuckin' problem for women in the workplace" and more "eh well I guess the roadblocks weren't too bad, I got mine." I feel like 30 Rock, in general, has definitely aged badly because of the weird, saccharine sort of meanness in most of its episodes.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:09
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I decided to finally watch The Wire and in the very first episode has thisquote:Kima: Fighting the war on drugs... one brutality case at a time. 2002 eh
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StrangersInTheNight posted:/\/\/\ I can guarantee all of you that John K did not think this hard about the gun, he just wanted a clear-to-identify-at-a-glance cartoon shotgun. I remember being in high school and briefly thinking "John K's great, I am a fan, those jerk TV people should let him do his thing" and then every single thing I watched/read of him would just be a slow trickle of "Oh wait, he's kind of an rear end in a top hat, oh wait, he's deluded, oh wait, his ideas about cartoons are actually stupid, oh wait, he's a weird conservative babyman with daddy issues, oh wait, he actually completely sucks at cartoons" And THEN I finally saw that Katie Rice video and "Oh wait, he's also a gigantic loving creep, welp" The moral is never be a fan of anyone, good night
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One thing that always bothered me about 30 Rock were the jokes surrounding Dot Com and Toofer always being about how it is totally hilarious that black men can be emotional, intelligent and well spoken. And Tina Fey defending Tracy Morgan after his extremely homophobic "joke" about stabbing his son to death if he came out and "god not making mistakes" put her on my "nah gently caress you" list.
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londonarbuckle posted:I remember being in high school and briefly thinking "John K's great, I am a fan, those jerk TV people should let him do his thing" and then every single thing I watched/read of him would just be a slow trickle of "Oh wait, he's kind of an rear end in a top hat, oh wait, he's deluded, oh wait, his ideas about cartoons are actually stupid, oh wait, he's a weird conservative babyman with daddy issues, oh wait, he actually completely sucks at cartoons" Yeah iirc back in the day there was a pretty referenced interview in film threat magazine where K drew on a picture of Bob Camp crying fake tears and clutching dollars which was the received wisdom for most people at the time. The other stuff came to light later
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nonathlon posted:Could you expand on this? Because I recollect that her book got very favourable reviews. I assumed it was preaching a favourable message. Her response to actual nazis holding rallies with torches and violence against peaceful counterprotestors was also not great...
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Scaramouche posted:Yeah iirc back in the day there was a pretty referenced interview in film threat magazine where K drew on a picture of Bob Camp crying fake tears and clutching dollars which was the received wisdom for most people at the time. The other stuff came to light later Oh yeah, I remember reading a long rundown years and years ago (maybe the one you're referencing?) of how John K got fired that extensively painted Bob Camp as the villain, which I believed at the time. But the more I actually learned about him after that the more opposite of reality it clearly was. But his cult of personality eats that poo poo up. He's quite a good manipulator, it turns out.
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londonarbuckle posted:Oh yeah, I remember reading a long rundown years and years ago (maybe the one you're referencing?) of how John K got fired that extensively painted Bob Camp as the villain, which I believed at the time. But the more I actually learned about him after that the more opposite of reality it clearly was. But his cult of personality eats that poo poo up. He's quite a good manipulator, it turns out. You can hear it in that creepy clip where he talks about kids enjoying and wanting to see nudity and sex because they’re mature enough to handle it, then prompting Rice to describe drawings she made when she was 15 and praising them. That’s like textbook grooming behavior, even though he’s just describing things in a video (that have nothing to do with the cartoon he’s supposed to be introducing). I would be surprised if there were only two victims.
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B-Rock452 posted:Her response to actual nazis holding rallies with torches and violence against peaceful counterprotestors was also not great... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvpXZxXWZU if anyone wants to suffer through it
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Fumaofthelake posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvpXZxXWZU if anyone wants to suffer through it While this was pretty loving awful I was actually impressed to see her address it directly when she was interviewed by David Letterman. The takeaway was "yeah I hosed up and hard" and I don't really recall any beating around the bush about it.
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Fumaofthelake posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvpXZxXWZU if anyone wants to suffer through it Well, she was right insofar as she could manage to ignore nazis and have her life remain exactly the same. That segment was so lovely that people started calling it satirical of the cowardly liberal position, which I guess it could be if you ignore intent of the cowardly liberals who wrote and performed it.
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Detective No. 27 posted:To be fair to John K, he probably never considered looking down the barrel of a shotgun until recently. lmbo
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I don't get the controversy about that bit though. Like who are these people who are Tina Fey fans but are completely oblivious to selfdepricating humor.
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Aug 29, 2018 23:01
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The whole "bitch is the new black" thing in 08 was also really questionable
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Aug 29, 2018 23:05
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Weekend update is always the worst part of SNL.
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Aug 29, 2018 23:09
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Not TV, exactly, but in some of his specials, George Carlin is very much "old man yells at cloud". I still think he's very funny, but the stuff just before his death feels has a very bitter and angry feeling to it. There's still some good stuff in there, but not enough of it.
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Yeah especially since the current iteration is a boring wasp and a libertarian douche bro.
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Leavemywife posted:Not TV, exactly, but in some of his specials, George Carlin is very much "old man yells at cloud". I still think he's very funny, but the stuff just before his death feels has a very bitter and angry feeling to it. There's still some good stuff in there, but not enough of it. What 9/11 did to old conservatives, the bush administration did to Carlin (for good reason, admittedly). I'm glad he didn't live to see Trump. e: I also think Trump broke Colbert completely
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Milo and POTUS posted:What 9/11 did to old conservatives, the bush administration did to Carlin (for good reason, admittedly). I'm glad he didn't live to see Trump. You can see his poo poo collapse on that live show he did on election night. I think he even says something like "all of my gags were built on the premise that America had a conscience."
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Leavemywife posted:Not TV, exactly, but in some of his specials, George Carlin is very much "old man yells at cloud". I still think he's very funny, but the stuff just before his death feels has a very bitter and angry feeling to it. There's still some good stuff in there, but not enough of it. His humor was always cynical but over time he got less and less funny for pretty much the same reason I don't make fun of conservatives anymore. The reality got more absurd than the joke. It's depressing how prescient his old stuff was. As everything went continually more crazy he told fewer jokes and mostly just bitched. Which was still entertaining in how insightful it was but at the same time was wrapped in a lot of "we became everything we hated and hope is dead."
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One Carlin joke from his last decade is still really good. The one about how you can always be worse off by describing your ills and then saying you have a cold on the end of it. Really good for deflating self-importance.
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