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bolind posted:My two new least favorite kind of drivers: Don't forget slow turners. Start slowing down way too soon then come an almost complete halt before turning.
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xzzy posted:Don't forget slow turners. Start slowing down way too soon then come an almost complete halt before turning. They might flip their suv!!!!!
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Aug 29, 2018 20:03
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Aug 29, 2018 20:06
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xzzy posted:Don't forget slow turners. Start slowing down way too soon then come an almost complete halt before turning. I was just talking about these kinds of people on a neighborhood forum and dug up this video as an example for a few who didn't understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ84EMxXzXc On top of turning slower than a turtle fucks they didn't bother putting their signal on until they were right on top of the turn. Of course at least two people in the neighborhood defended the actions seen in the video and tried to argue it'd be rude to honk at them.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:46
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spog posted:I am guessing she has zero shame about being a dangerous driver who will likely maim someone in the future. I told her how I feel about being a distracted driver. Maybe this was the wake-up call she needed.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:46
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InitialDave posted:THAT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT LESSON Do you want to know what lesson I learned?
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wolrah posted:Of course at least two people in the neighborhood defended the actions seen in the video and tried to argue it'd be rude to honk at them. Too bad it's indefensible. People that buy giant vehicles then can't handle them should be relegated to using a moped the rest of their life.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:50
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wolrah posted:I was just talking about these kinds of people on a neighborhood forum and dug up this video as an example for a few who didn't understand. All I can think is they're transporting an almost-full aquarium in the back. Although I can't imagine why.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:56
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Colostomy Bag posted:Do you want to know what lesson I learned?
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Aug 29, 2018 20:58
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wolrah posted:I was just talking about these kinds of people on a neighborhood forum and dug up this video as an example for a few who didn't understand. My best guess is they were immediately hoping to go left as soon as they pulled in the parking lot and literally had no idea what to do since they were blocked.... before they realizing they could go behind the people turning.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:03
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https://i.imgur.com/y1ahNeu.gifv
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Aug 29, 2018 21:04
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xzzy posted:Too bad it's indefensible. People that buy giant vehicles then can't handle them should be relegated to using a moped the rest of their life. 1. You suck as a driver. 2. Your vehicle is unsafe. 3. You have a load which is not properly secured. slidebite posted:My best guess is they were immediately hoping to go left as soon as they pulled in the parking lot and literally had no idea what to do since they were blocked.... before they realizing they could go behind the people turning.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:13
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If you don't hear your tires chirping, you can take the corner faster. 
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Aug 29, 2018 21:19
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I'm guilty of 3 pretty often with the stuff in my van, but I still take turns at like 4x the speed of the suv in that video, goddamn
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Aug 29, 2018 21:20
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Sometimes there are pedestrians in between the driveway and the lane of traffic. Or cross traffic. Or a blind corner. Seriously are you advocating doing 25mph into driveways? That seems loving outrageous. E: rereading your post, I see kinda what you're saying but holy poo poo, please slow down to turn safely. Thank you, on behalf of cyclists and pedestrians everywhere.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:22
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Are they riding bicycles on a highway?
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Aug 29, 2018 21:22
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Are they riding bicycles on a highway? Russia. Truck didn't get off on the exit lane
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Aug 29, 2018 21:29
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Wasabi the J posted:Seriously are you advocating doing 25mph into driveways? That seems loving outrageous. No of course not, I'm just saying that in most cases it'd be physically possible for the vehicle to do it without losing control, thus there isn't a good reason for someone to slow to near zero. Slow a reasonable amount, but if you're slow enough that someone behind you with a manual transmission would need to shift in to first to not stall you've almost certainly slowed too much. Obviously if there is a pedestrian, cyclist, other traffic, or any obstruction you may need to stop, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about people who choose to slow excessively in an otherwise free-flowing situation.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:31
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There's a turn near me where -everyone- brakes. Even coming off a red light where you can get up to maybe 20 before taking the turn, almost every person I've ever seen brakes to about 15 MPH. It's maddening and fucks up everyone stuck behind them so they miss the light.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:42
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Maker Of Shoes posted:They might flip their suv!!!!! I have yet to see an SUV make a slow turn here in MA. Only seen sedans do it. And they do it at protected turns and unprotected turns where NO ONE is around but them.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:00
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huge pile of hamburger posted:feel free to fall off a cliff You first, preferably from a height that makes your username relevant slidebite posted:My best guess is they were immediately hoping to go left as soon as they pulled in the parking lot and literally had no idea what to do since they were blocked.... before they realizing they could go behind the people turning. Or it's more simple, like they're too stupid or timid to drive, or they don't maintain their car so even a 5mph turn will make their shitbox roll & crumple into a heap
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Aug 29, 2018 22:45
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OptimusShr posted:I have yet to see an SUV make a slow turn here in MA. Only seen sedans do it. And they do it at protected turns and unprotected turns where NO ONE is around but them. I saw it today. Pulling into my apartment complex the woman in front of me literally stopped in the road to take a right turn, and crawled through it at a pace similar to the idiot featured in that video.
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Aug 29, 2018 23:11
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who doesn't transport their aquarium in a gimbal sheesh
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Aug 30, 2018 04:34
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bolind posted:My two new least favorite kind of drivers: All these people must gently caress off and die, it is known. Also people who stop and then slowly creep forward whilst stopped at a red signal. I don't know what the hell is wrong with their loving heads, but their ironic punishment in hell will to be drive Uber in a car with a heavy, yet extremely touchy, clutch pedal.
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Aug 30, 2018 04:40
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I saw it all today, made me want a dash cam so bad. Landscapers with an empty trailer, I was keeping my distance since I know that's a source of gravel, and bam, he hits a bump and I'm like watching bogeys in asteroid. Oversize load, it was an entire loving log gazebo. On the 3 lane portion of I-25 he was in the right lane, and most people were passing him in the far left lane, and I, like some kind of idiot was in the middle lane since there was plenty of room there to pass. Someone decided gently caress that and zoomed up in the left lane, cut me off, then got on the bumper of the car ahead and cut hard back into the left lane. Careless behavior especially when a marked oversize load was in the right lane. Roofer with a gooseneck dump towing a second gooseneck dump. Can't possibly be legal but maybe? Another oversize load lost a tire on the far back drivers side, rear axle of the trailer. Which apparently overloaded or shredded the other tire on the set of duals. Lots of us fighting bits of tire in the road and none of us brave enough to pass. He went on for another 3-4 miles, sometimes adding a lot of rubber smoke to the air. Eventually I noticed he was wearing a GROOVE into the pavement, he made it another mile and pulled off. I bet he went from Harmony Road to the Thunder Mountain Harley, 7 miles. Finally, at E-470 and I-25, a VW Jetta Wagon (maybe?) which was a Rolling Smoke Wall. Absolutely billowing white smoke, total shitshow on the freeway like driving through a cloud. He was like a vaping douche of a car. I couldn't loving believe it and I'm glad I was ahead of him. Must have gone 3-4 miles like that. Reminded me of those planes in the pacific theater that could drop a smoke wall.
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Aug 30, 2018 05:14
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OptimusShr posted:I have yet to see an SUV make a slow turn here in MA. Only seen sedans do it. And they do it at protected turns and unprotected turns where NO ONE is around but them. Around here the SUVs and trucks tend to do a different annoying thing where they slow to a crawl for speed bumps and railroad tracks. Somehow their Raptor with it's desert racing suspension just isn't enough to suck up a 3" tall bump that my Fiesta with rock hard "make it feel sporty" suspension just cruises right over. I don't get it, back when I drove a truck on 31" tires that was most of the fun of driving it on the street, being able to basically pretend the bumps aren't there because the tall sidewalls and floppy suspension just leveled 'em out.
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Aug 30, 2018 14:15
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wolrah posted:I was just talking about these kinds of people on a neighborhood forum and dug up this video as an example for a few who didn't understand. I like the people who swing wide when making a turn, like their sedan is some massive tractor-trailer that couldn't possibly make that 15-foot curb return without oversteering to the left in order to turn right.
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Aug 30, 2018 14:20
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wolrah posted:Around here the SUVs and trucks tend to do a different annoying thing where they slow to a crawl for speed bumps and railroad tracks. Somehow their Raptor with it's desert racing suspension just isn't enough to suck up a 3" tall bump that my Fiesta with rock hard "make it feel sporty" suspension just cruises right over. I'll introduce you to my new theory: most drivers are extremely stupid, and hate the act of driving itself, hence they do not even consider doing fun things in their vehicle. This also explains why they crawl up merge lanes when going WOT in such a place is both advisable and fun. I thought it might be because I've just driven overpowered cars for a while, but it turns out it's fun as gently caress to do that poo poo in trucks and SUVs too, when I rent them.
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Aug 30, 2018 14:29
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I assume the speedbump thing is because the bump feels bigger due to sitting up higher and the increased weight of the vehicle causing it to jostle more before it settles back down. I've never driven a land yacht though so this is just a guess.  Biggest thing I've driven is a crosstrek and it smooths out speedbumps like they're nothing.
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Aug 30, 2018 14:35
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its me, the guy in the CUV going a little slow over a speed bump. not like nearly stopped but maybe a little slower than I'd go over it in my neon and its mostly because I keep a small tool set and full size jack bungied in the back to keep it from sliding around but baja'ing the speedbumps in front of the local grocery store would cause that stuff to explode everywhere. its plenty secure for regular driving and crawling around the desert but I would like to eventually measure out and punch some anchor holes through the floor/tire cover back there for some vertical strap points. I will make any compromise to never have to use scissor/suicide jacks ever again.
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Aug 30, 2018 16:14
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xzzy posted:I assume the speedbump thing is because the bump feels bigger due to sitting up higher and the increased weight of the vehicle causing it to jostle more before it settles back down. Nah, just he opposite in my experience. When I was a teen/young adult returning from college every now and then I'd end up driving my mom's Explorer when I was home because something broke on my car/my parents needed me to pick up something or some reason. I *haaated* it so much because I simply could not feel the ground. After driving a PT Cruiser, and before that an older, smaller Explorer (before they got all steroid puffy) I got used to being able to feel the road through the vibration of the pedals/seat. The newer Explorer? Felt like I was driving a loving hovercraft: unless I put the pedal to the metal over a speed bump I simply did not feel poo poo. I told my mom this when she asked me why I hated driving her car so much and she was all "But I like it that way!" and I'm pretty sure she legit fell into the group of people who hate driving but liked having the ability to get themselves from point A to point B. I was flabberghasted at her response because that was taking away a channel of information for me: being able to feel the road through the tires tells me what the car and most importantly what the tires are doing. On that puffy, giant Ford Explorer you wouldn't be able to tell if the wheels had lost friction from ice or hydroplaning until the fat SUV started to slide into a ditch.
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gently caress you, left turning guy. We're on opposite sides of a main road, exiting strip malls. I'm turning right and he's turning left. I made the egregious mistake of assuming people turning right have right of way and begin my turn when a hole opens. Then I get to listen to five seconds of horn because he had decided to go too and I guess he felt like I cut him off or something. We ended up next to each other at the next light, lots of masculine glaring at each other took place.
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Aug 30, 2018 18:13
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Devor posted:I like the people who swing wide when making a turn, like their sedan is some massive tractor-trailer that couldn't possibly make that 15-foot curb return without oversteering to the left in order to turn right. Hey we're all just trying to hit the apex and power out!
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PT6A posted:I'll introduce you to my new theory: most drivers are extremely stupid, and hate the act of driving itself, hence they do not even consider doing fun things in their vehicle. The number of Chevy Equinoxes, Dodge Journeys, and other horrible but cheap and practical vehicles on the road agrees with that. You can pretty safely assume that anyone driving one of those does not actually give a gently caress about driving. quote:This also explains why they crawl up merge lanes when going WOT in such a place is both advisable and fun. I thought it might be because I've just driven overpowered cars for a while, but it turns out it's fun as gently caress to do that poo poo in trucks and SUVs too, when I rent them. xzzy posted:I assume the speedbump thing is because the bump feels bigger due to sitting up higher and the increased weight of the vehicle causing it to jostle more before it settles back down. IMO every combination of vehicle and bump has a sweet spot on speed where you're hitting the bump hard enough to actually use the suspension and minimize the jostling of a low speed approach while still not hitting it so hard that you bottom out or start to get airborne. It's basically just a matter of learning your vehicle and roads to figure out your specific speed. Airtime itself of course does tend to be smooth, but without an appropriate ramp on the far side the landing is usually rough. I'll just leave the implications for certain railroad crossings with angled approaches to the reader. Alkydere posted:I told my mom this when she asked me why I hated driving her car so much and she was all "But I like it that way!" and I'm pretty sure she legit fell into the group of people who hate driving but liked having the ability to get themselves from point A to point B. I was flabberghasted at her response because that was taking away a channel of information for me: being able to feel the road through the tires tells me what the car and most importantly what the tires are doing. On that puffy, giant Ford Explorer you wouldn't be able to tell if the wheels had lost friction from ice or hydroplaning until the fat SUV started to slide into a ditch. xzzy posted:gently caress you, left turning guy. Given the rarity of an opening on both sides compared to an opening on one side and the vagueness at least in my local laws I'd lean towards letting the left turner have it if you both got there at the same time, but I'm not sure how the law views it in other states and I'm sure most of us in this thread understand how predictability is usually more important than being nice when it comes to right-of-way issues. The better strategy of course is to avoid turning left at non-protected intersections wherever practical.
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wolrah posted:Right of way in this situation is actually somewhat unclear if you both arrived at the same time. If he was there first it's his to take, but simultaneous arrival at a multi-way stop is supposed to to go the rightmost vehicle which doesn't really mean anything useful when considering opposite sides of an intersection. In Ohio left turners are supposed to yield to oncoming traffic but only if they're already in the intersection or are "so close [...] as to constitute an immediate hazard" so it's not really clear if that would apply to stopped traffic waiting their turn.
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wolrah posted:Agreed 100%. If you can't take a turn in to a driveway at a reasonable speed it means one or more of the following: As an auto tech, I drive thousands of cars every year. I am respectful of them, since they are somebody's property, so my test drives are much gentler than the way I drive my own car. Yet, even though I am accelerating/braking/cornering at a slower rate than I would in my own vehicle, many people have loose stuff flying around. The video posted above matches how I picture them driving. Flint Ironstag fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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Alkydere posted:I told my mom this when she asked me why I hated driving her car so much and she was all "But I like it that way!" and I'm pretty sure she legit fell into the group of people who hate driving but liked having the ability to get themselves from point A to point B. This is where an excellent public transit network comes into play, but that's anathema in most parts of America. So we have cars that effectively serve as La-Z-Boy recliners for disinterested people to spend hours staring at scenery or playing with their smartphones and tablets. And our roads and driver education are designed to accommodate those people.
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[/quote] Heh, I can't read that as anything other than rear end'n'Crack
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