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Goon Danton posted:I read his post as "I am now camping the route from Jita to Goonspace," honestly. We are space poors and have little to our names, you will have to settle for fitting your Velator for tackling.
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Goon Danton posted:I read his post as "I am now camping the route from Jita to Goonspace," honestly. In that case, find a station with a clone station. From there you can select your clone's home station remotely. Don't gently caress up, you can only do this once per year. Once it's done, self-destruct and you'll wake up in Delve.
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Kimsemus posted:Firm subscribes to Lexis? "I found it on Westlaw!" then the people whose idea of a spreadsheet is that if you need the sum of a column of numbers, you pull out your calculator and add them all up then type the answer in, want this magical document that explains excel and why your spreadsheet is automatically creating the reports that they spend hours making for their case
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evilweasel posted:then the people whose idea of a spreadsheet is that if you need the sum of a column of numbers, you pull out your calculator and add them all up then type the answer in, want this magical document that explains excel and why your spreadsheet is automatically creating the reports that they spend hours making for their case This is why you hide your power level. If you can make spreadsheets that render your entire job obsolete, you make them and keep loving quiet about it, then let the spreadsheets do your job for you while you goof off or watch paint dry. Might not apply to lawyers, but it's good advice for any computer touchers out there.
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What happened if my evedude was in a capital and unsubbed when the outpost got destroyed/ unanchored?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:This is why you hide your power level. If you can make spreadsheets that render your entire job obsolete, you make them and keep loving quiet about it, then let the spreadsheets do your job for you while you goof off or watch paint dry. Might not apply to lawyers, but it's good advice for any computer touchers out there. nah it just meant i could do the more fun parts of my job instead of spending hours figuring out what i missed and why the report columns didn't add up properly but yeah i automated one of my early jobs before i became a lawyer and it owned, i never explained to anyone how it worked or even that it was happening  had to get my own proxy around the internet filter though to not die of boredom.
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:What happened if my evedude was in a capital and unsubbed when the outpost got destroyed/ unanchored? you'll spawn at a random point in space in the system in that capital if your capital ship was in the hangar and you weren't in it, it's in asset safety and your pod will spawn in the random point
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evilweasel posted:nah it just meant i could do the more fun parts of my job instead of spending hours figuring out what i missed and why the report columns didn't add up properly what is with jobs and internet filters
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Landsknecht posted:what is with jobs and internet filters ostensibly it's to keep your employees off of pornhub and other poo poo and doing their jobs instead basically employees are subhuman and have to be babysat, apparently
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Aug 30, 2018 16:44
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:ostensibly it's to keep your employees off of pornhub and other poo poo and doing their jobs instead there's now a push for personal email to be blocked as a potential threat vector which loving suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks because it gets applied even to the people high-ranking enough to not have the rest of their internet filtered
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Aug 30, 2018 16:46
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evilweasel posted:you'll spawn at a random point in space in the system in that capital And If i'm not an omega, will I be able to jump the ship?
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evilweasel posted:there's now a push for personal email to be blocked as a potential threat vector which loving suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks because it gets applied even to the people high-ranking enough to not have the rest of their internet filtered I can see the threat vector excuse for certain industries, but man that sucks Gwyneth Palpate posted:ostensibly it's to keep your employees off of pornhub and other poo poo and doing their jobs instead I guess it's a thing? there's now productivity software which will take screenshots of desktops every 15-30m and send it to your supervisor
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Landsknecht posted:what is with jobs and internet filters One of my jobs had Very Good Tech People, and they had a filter that blocked Stack Overflow, but you could bypass it by opening links in a new tab. Eventually their solution to the tab workaround was to block my computer specifically from connecting to the network. I also automated half my job, but the other half of my job involved working with cyanide gas so nobody ever came to see what I was doing 
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:And If i'm not an omega, will I be able to jump the ship? that is a good question. i think you can, but with no skills applying to your jump distance so you'll have a max jump distance of 3.5LY and use a shitton of fuel
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Goon Danton posted:I also automated half my job working with cyanide gas i am pretty sure this is the plot to Portal
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http://www.eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility so looking at the last few years, gamepop looks sorta stable? Or is it just everyone multi'ing rorqs?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:ostensibly it's to keep your employees off of pornhub and other poo poo and doing their jobs instead Regardless of where I worked, if employees could gently caress around on the internet rather than do their job, that's what they did. Most workers know to do their job despite loving around, but some do have to be babysat.
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Goon Danton posted:One of my jobs had Very Good Tech People, and they had a filter that blocked Stack Overflow, but you could bypass it by opening links in a new tab. Eventually their solution to the tab workaround was to block my computer specifically from connecting to the network. Jesus christ, i feel like with that kind of management, I would have stuck my head in the vat of cyanide and inhaled profusely.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:i am pretty sure this is the plot to Portal I deeply sympathize with GLADOS, but it turns out you don't need to kill everyone when you can just quit instead.
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A few days ago I got kind of bored constantly updating orders. I was saving up for a Titan, but honestly I don't know what I would even do with such a ship (shoot at Keepstars?). Instead I decided I would stop updating orders and hold onto the isk. Its enough to PLEX my account for a few years, or buy any ships I want (except a titan  ). I thought I would start "playing the game" so to speak.I decided I would bring a carrier full of PvP ships up to the "front lines" in the north. Back when I was trading on the market I would hold back the ships I liked, so any time someone sold a Proteus or a Stratios or a Flycatcher I would hold onto it instead of selling it for a mark up. This way I ended up with stacks of 10+ of all of my favorite ships, at a good discount. I did not have all of the fittings (I did have some!) so I had to buy a bunch on the market, but even still most ships where 20%+ cheaper to me than market average once fitted. I decided to load up a bunch of these into my first carrier, a Thanatos called The Bexx. I bought full platinum insurance, because I know I am going to lose this thing at some point! If I have ships in the cargo hold and my carrier is destroyed, do they ships pay out insurance? I didn't bring the super carrier, because it is very valuable and I am a coward. The trip up was quite easy, there is a string of helpful Keepstars all the way there! I don't know how we can afford so many keepstars  The only trouble was the last 10 jumps, there was no cyno field thing set up. I don't have a second account for cyno, so I needed that goon infrastructure!The PvP "fleet" I brought along with my carrier to the front lines consisted of: -1 Dominix -2 Proteus -2 Stealth Bombers -2 Interdictor -1 Interceptor -1 Stratios -1 Astero -a bunch of shuttles A few of the ships are new ones, I have not posted my builds for them! I did update the build for my old ships (with better more bling modules) but I will only post the new ships. Are these good Elite PvP builds? I hope to get lots of kills for the honor of the imperium   quote:[Nemesis, Sunset Bomber]  quote:[Flycatcher, Simulated Flycatcher]  quote:[Ares, Hotrod]
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:ostensibly it's to keep your employees off of pornhub and other poo poo and doing their jobs instead I mean it's not entirely wrong. I'm not personally a huge fan aside from blocking poo poo like porn. If you have a coworker that keeps one screen on facebook all day but still performs as well or better than everyone else, leave em the gently caress alone. I usually work in pent up bursts, where I'll fling as much output everyone else does in a few hours over like a half hour span, then I need to chill for a bit to recharge my brain. So many of my big fixes have been thought up while twiddling my thumbs it's not funny. On the other hand, the poo poo people get up to when I turn the webfilter off is "Talk to HR" levels of stupid. This really comes from the breaking of manager culture. Good managers know who's not pulling their weight. Bad managers don't. Landsknecht posted:I guess it's a thing? there's now productivity software which will take screenshots of desktops every 15-30m and send it to your supervisor This has been around for well over a decade. I can watch your screen live if I want to without ever letting you know. If someone started screencapping me and made the mistake of letting me know though, I'd be out the door asap. Rhymenoserous fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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Capitalism sucks, my dude.
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iospace posted:I'm the useless i-stabs on the ares. How is it useless? The numbers go up.
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Rutibex posted:How is it useless? The numbers go up. If you have to use 3+ of the same low slot items, you're doing something wrong. The way you have it fitted, its closer to a travel-ceptor than a fighting ship
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just heard that p3ak and dys0n are going to TRI, and a lot of PL (NESW+HABIT) is merging into SNIGG and CYNOU and joining NCDOT RIPPL, 2007-2018
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:no you are wrong you see cynou is joining BL I just heard about the SNIGG megacorp merge, and I assumed both were going to NCDOT, I guess not will be interesting to see what happens to the other corps, I assume BUSA will probably end up in NC or TRI as well, maybe some of the smaller ones will join volta or skillu
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I think that the beginning of the end for PL occurred all the way back when goonswarm went through the internal revolution of acceptable behavior and the montolio era of TEST came to an end. There were a lot of edgelords that had either left their alliance in a huff or were kicked and they all seemed to wind up in PL. It became an oddmix of really good players and really bitter players
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Yeah, although likely more of a merge into NC, but those who don't want that are just going to do something else a lot of the old guys who made PL, well, PL are now gone and not coming back (Grath, Shamis, Shadoo, bmerc lmao) and elise is pretty turboafk you really only have a few FCs and that's not going anywhere fast, there's just not enough there to really sustain the alliance from what I've heard losing ISRAD+SWIGG kinda started things, since really that's a lot of bodies and usefuls gone from the alliance I'm sure someone will leak the final SOTL or it'll hit r/eve soon enough
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Landsknecht posted:(bmerc lmao) did that dude ever come back after y'all noped out of the north in 2011
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Landsknecht posted:Yeah, although likely more of a merge into NC, but those who don't want that are just going to do something else What is Shadoo anyway? I was under the impression he stopped playing a while back. Haven't seen his eyebrows on a stream in a long time.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:did that dude ever come back after y'all noped out of the north in 2011 PL has had this weird relationship with guys who are really active and useful but make dumb decisions main examples are bmerc and manny, although there's been a few others
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Rutibex posted:How is it useless? The numbers go up. I have an old rear end version of Pyfa, but here we go: Your align time is 1.69s, with all 5s. Take one off and you're now at 1.8s. This effectively is zero change in align time because of ticks. Take a second off and now you're at 2.03s align, or effectively 3 seconds. In fact, you can drop two of the i-stabs for two nanos, which only has a hull strength penalty instead of a sig radius penalty, and you still align in under 2 ticks. Your sig radius is now down to 42.6 instead of 58.2 with MWD off. It's great for "first in to make the tackle", but it's only really effective in low-sec where a warp-speed fit 'dictor wouldn't work. Oh, and the cloak ruins the lock speed, which is the entire point of an inty in combat anyway: first tackle, unless you're doing inty fleet. And it's a decent travelsceptor, but that's really it. e: Crappy, "does exactly what an inty needs to do" fit: code:Also I'm not  , for what it's worth.
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Landsknecht posted:PL has had this weird relationship with guys who are really active and useful but make dumb decisions eh i wasn't really highlighting his dumb decisions, just wondering if what happened in 2011 made him quit like permanently or if he stuck around for a while he's obviously not around now
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:eh i wasn't really highlighting his dumb decisions, just wondering if what happened in 2011 made him quit like permanently or if he stuck around for a while yeah, probably the usual story of "overcommit, then fail, then RMT out" I think the same thing happened with ex-goon-hero phreeze but then there are guys like manny who float from alliance to alliance and manage to get into leadership roles, only to gently caress up massively and get laughed out
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Bilirubin posted:Would this be one of those "fail cascades" I heard so much about two years ago? hard to say for sure since i tend to assume ordo is trolling until proven otherwise i don't know that any other major corps are on their way out yet and pl has a long history of "trolling" in this sort of way - when something is bad, lie about how its worse. it's not a bad strategy and it usually works out for them.anyway this isn't the usual failure cascade since pl doesn't have space to lose, the usual trigger. pl's problem is that its identity is an "elite" alliance. they function by recruiting the "elite" from everywhere else to stay strong and grow. except they're no longer elite, they're a has-been that failed to adapt with the times and has realized its too late first, their recruitment of "elite" people got hurt by the problem of overrecruiting immense shitlords. the people who used to be in charge were charismatic, interesting people (compared to the usual eve player), while the current crop is basically 4chan detrius. nobody, and i mean nobody, is looking at current pl leadership and thinking "i want to be one of those people and fly with them" second, their 'elite' nature was basically built on (a) the alliance tournament and (b) supercaps. yes, they could do some interesting stuff with subcaps at times, but this was never really the source of their strength: they could do that poo poo with subcaps because nobody could deploy supercaps against them. their supercap superiority was built on their alliance with nc., where for all the claims they are strong independent alliances their supercap fleet is essentially an integrated whole. nc. would never attack pl, pl would never attack nc., and if one of them was in trouble the other would help. they kept that supercap superiority because if you don't have the most supercaps you can't use them. anyone with a supercap that wanted to use it had to go to PL/NC, so their advantage snowballed. that got badly bruised in BR-, where they got shithoused due to bad tactics and by the rest of eve assembling to get a big enough force to match theirs (that then rapidly collapsed, giving PL/NC. superiority again). it got definitively ended in X47 where they didn't even manage to put up a serious fight. the structure timer was an embarassment, a one-sided slaughter that demonstrated they have been decisively outnumbered, and made much worse by terrible, terrible tactics. so now that natural flow of "i have a supercap and want to use it" goes the other way: if you want to use your supercap, you have to join us or join TEST. that goes double for faction supercaps, which PL/NC couldn't even field and ordered to dock up. as for the alliance tournament, basing your image on something that happens once a year and has a substantial luck component is tricky enough, and they've failed to recruit the talent they need to stay on top. they placed significantly worse than TEST this year, well out of the prize brackets. so far out, that i thought i was missing something while trying to find them. they weren't even close. so any aspiring AT pilot sure isn't going to PL, they're going to the actually good AT alliances like VOLTA and HYDRA. lastly, everyone recognized that jump fatigue/rorquals/etc was going to advantage broad-based alliances over "elite" alliances and that PL/NC needed to adapt. NC. adapted relatively well, sinking its hooks into 0.0 and accumulating a good meatshield. PL formed Horde, which was an inspired idea, and promptly implemented by making GBS threads on them hardcore and letting them get independent rather than structuring them as a feeder alliance that was tightly integrated with PL. now, it's pretty clear that PL is now the junior party in that relationship. horde has relevance in 0.0, pl, not so much. at this point the rot has definitively set in: PL/NC is no longer an alliance of equals. NC is clearly the healthy alliance and PL is the rotting corpse. everyone knows that Vince will be calling the shots with only a token consideration of PLs views within a year or so. if you're in PL, you're probably there because its "elite". and that's gone. so your choices are to stay and hope things turn around, or get out while the getting is good to NC. or somewhere else. problem is, the rot is so evident even /r/eve is mercilessly making GBS threads on PL so there's no real obvious ways this turns around. so to make a long story short: it's going to be more trying to arrest the rot while people slowly sneak out rather than the sort of abrupt collapse you see when an alliances' failure is due to external pressure. it's just that everything that sustained PL is gone, and it's just a question of how long it takes everyone to realize it and get out. in a year or two they'll be an AAA-level joke
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:did that dude ever come back after y'all noped out of the north in 2011 i'm pretty sure i recall hearing that he RMTed all his poo poo and characters so he's permanently gone Landsknecht posted:yeah, probably the usual story of "overcommit, then fail, then RMT out" yeah a problem with recruiting people who are on the open market is there's usually a reason they're on the open market. someone in their previous alliance was incompetent or insufferable, and if it was some sort of drama there's at least a 50-50 shot it was them. PL was good at convincing people to defect for a while, but sort of switched to vacumning up the trash and paid pretty heavily for it. i mean christ, letting baki yuku into your alliance, wtf evilweasel fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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