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Business Gorillas posted:It's the responsibility of candidates to inspire people to vote for them, not the other way around there are candidates doing this you know
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Epic High Five posted:progressive policies are already pushing lame third way collaborators out of office, just look at the FL Dem primary, where an honest to god progressive not only won in a landslide, but also just about doubled turnout Yeah absolutely. And if Bernie had actually managed to beat Hillary and Trump in 2016 and was President right now, he'd likely be looking at a Congress that would be actively sabotaging his presidency the way the centrists wish the GOP would do for Trump. I guess what I was saying is I'm worried the left won't be strong enough in time and if we were to say, get the Dem presidential nom and lose, that could be a bigger setback to finally having a leftwing in this country than running loving Cory Booker. Grape posted:Vote in the midterms dumbass. co-signed
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Badger of Basra posted:there are candidates doing this you know It's their job to let him know.
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Badger of Basra posted:there are candidates doing this you know not if joe biden has anything to say about it
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TrixRabbi posted:Yeah absolutely. And if Bernie had actually managed to beat Hillary and Trump in 2016 and was President right now, he'd likely be looking at a Congress that would be actively sabotaging his presidency the way the centrists wish the GOP would do for Trump. how does bernie win the general without congress also following him in '16
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 16:47 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:how does bernie win the general without congress also following him in '16 The same way Obama won the general but the house didn't follow in '12. The Senate would ideally have followed though, so appointments would still be possible and SCOTUS secured.
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Pervis posted:The same way Obama won the general but the house didn't follow in '12. The Senate would ideally have followed though, so appointments would still be possible and SCOTUS secured. oh ok so hypothetical bernie campaign tacks sharply toward the center and then his wealthy opponent fails to out-decorum him into the white house gotcha
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You forget we agreed Bernie would have totally gotten the various Paul R.'s and Ted C.'s to vote Democrat.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 17:44 |
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with 2012 levels of turnout those centrist votes hafta come from somewhere
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 17:45 |
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Brother Entropy posted:'give me a reason to vote for you' is not cynical or evil If the other guys are literal fascists then you're an evil gently caress if you don't find that a reason to vote. People are dying, children are in concentration camps. Vote in primaries if you want to move parties left. "I'm going to stay at home and let the literal fascists win because my preferred candidate didn't win" is some cynical, literally evil poo poo. Agean90 posted:it is a moral imperative that you stop evil by *squints* empowering the people who do nothing to stop it I guess alternatively really loving dumb.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 17:46 |
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Jarmak posted:If the other guys are literal fascists then you're an evil gently caress if you don't find that a reason to vote. People are dying, children are in concentration camps. what if the people running against them are fine with that too hmmm these babbyjails are a skosh too far my candidate promises to return us to the familyjails we all know and love gently caress that
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 17:47 |
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Business Gorillas posted:It's the responsibility of candidates to inspire people to vote for them this flawed understanding of democracy is why the left has sidelined itself for decades for the thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1035157026568056832
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this flawed understanding of democracy is why the left has sidelined itself for decades loving the taste of boot and insisting that whatever flavor of boot you’re given to lick is your next meal as long as it’s served by the right people is complete and utter acceptance of your subject status
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derail is starting to become less and less about trump voters realizing they're gonna dieDixie Cretin Seaman posted:this flawed understanding of democracy is why the left has sidelined itself for decades you signed up to work for a monster of a man and his administration of genocidal psychos, you're getting EXACTLY what you signed up for lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:what if the people running against them are fine with that too I'm sure this dead toddler is happy that your ideological purity is intact https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/paw9ky/toddler-died-after-getting-sick-in-ice-custody
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it warms the cockles of my cold dead heart to read about how ex-trump staffers find themselves unemployable when they go home
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Jarmak posted:If the other guys are literal fascists then you're an evil gently caress if you don't find that a reason to vote. People are dying, children are in concentration camps. this weird shame game doesn't work on people you can find that disappointing or evil or whatever but pragmatically it's the truth that people need reasons to vote for you and you don't earn them just by being the second worst option on the ballot
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this flawed understanding of democracy is why the left has sidelined itself for decades morale
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My dad works for the corps of engineers and has been putting off his retirement forever because he's been waiting for the pay to get unfrozen so his highest three years will be higher Now, not only is Trump not going to unfreeze the pay, but the corps is looking for more ways to get rid of all those pesky civil works so the money can get funnelled straight into the bottomless pit of the military that I don't live near a levee
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Brother Entropy posted:this weird shame game doesn't work on people Oh I agree strategically. I can separately hold both that it's necessary to win and that people suck.
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Jarmak posted:I'm sure this dead toddler is happy that your ideological purity is intact whoa that's terrible i'm glad that this cause célèbre has led to the dems throwing their entire weight toward abolishing ice
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zegermans posted:morale lol it works for both
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this flawed understanding of democracy is why the left has sidelined itself for decades yes you did though??? you signed on to work with the fascist racist idiot president???
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https://twitter.com/KraselShannon/status/1034092969702432769 https://twitter.com/CovfefeTraitor/status/1032260695780413440 it is i, the traitorous covfefe
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:13 |
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man it is difficult digging through all the bots like this one https://twitter.com/babyy651/status/1033022380837425153 to find the good stuff https://twitter.com/vinnyfromtheD/status/1034806132131422208 https://twitter.com/Nchangtachi/status/1034617026206199808
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Jarmak posted:I'm sure this dead toddler is happy that your ideological purity is intact Reminder that the current batch of dem 2020 frontrunners are arguing for more concentration camp oversight as opposed to the morally correct stance of Chud Nuremberg
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:23 |
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delicious https://twitter.com/kirstenkowalsk/status/1034156529375698944
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:28 |
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lmao, oh lord how naive can someone be
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:29 |
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trump gonna read that tweet and personally dump coal ash into kowalski's water
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Epic High Five posted:lmao, oh lord how naive can someone be photographer, art gallery owner, lawyer, writer, wife, mother, jeep lover. Whew, now I'm tired.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:31 |
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lol
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:38 |
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Jarmak posted:Allowing evil to happen when you have the ability to stop it is complacency in that evil. Who cares, even if you're right we're going to need the votes of cynical evil people who are too cynical and evil to be swayed by "well have you seen the other guys." Btw using the threat of people like Trump to excuse one's own evil-but-slightly-less-evil policies is also cynical and evil.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:39 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:how does bernie win the general without congress also following him in '16 they prob would have but likelihood that he gets democrats resentful that he dethroned queen hillary to actually support medicare for all, wall street reform, etc. i think it's a bit different now and increasing the left pull of the party will make it even more likely. Why does this person quit their job every time there's a new GOP candidate?
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Where on earth did this person get the idea that the guy running on racist isolationism would help southern Cameroon?
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I VOTED FOR YOU
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:46 |
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Grape posted:Vote in the midterms dumbass. i'm not allowed besides, real power comes from bodies in the streets
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 19:05 |
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got any sevens posted:i'm not allowed Sorry about your felony conviction.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 19:08 |
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Hm yea the racist who wants refugees out of America and thinks they all come from shithole countries because they're poo poo humans who will make America a shithole too seems like the politician most likely to help the third world.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 19:36 |
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Agean90 posted:the centrists who win because of this shot are the same people who folded in the Senate yesterday, mortaging our future so they can go home This is why I miss Harry Reid. Yes, he was a dick for preventing the US from building its much-needed nuclear toilet. However, Reid was a wily motherfucker who would actually fight instead of resigning himself to sucking McConnell's turtle dick.
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VitalSigns posted:Who cares, even if you're right we're going to need the votes of cynical evil people who are too cynical and evil to be swayed by "well have you seen the other guys." The point is calling out lovely people for being lovely. BTW that's a nice non-sequitur you got there. Business Gorillas posted:Reminder that the current batch of dem 2020 frontrunners are arguing for more concentration camp oversight as opposed to the morally correct stance of Chud Nuremberg Reminder that if you don't vote then your effective position is for more and worse concentration camps. Jarmak has issued a correction as of 20:24 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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