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Hey y'all. I parachuted in to the last thread asking for some advice talking to the priest that would be performing the baptism of my girlfriend's daughter since I wasn't much of a believer. Just figured I'd give an update: the baptism's the end of next month. So, yeah. That's going well. Thanks for the advice.
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The Phlegmatist posted:I'm out. I've deleted all my social media accounts, and this will be the last one. Goodbye, and thanks for making these threads so great while you were here.
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Aug 30, 2018 18:35
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The Phlegmatist posted:I'm out. I've deleted all my social media accounts, and this will be the last one. You made the thread and me a better place, come back anytime 
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Aug 30, 2018 18:40
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1034976293291544576 Lol
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Aug 30, 2018 19:48
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honestly some of the hierarchy come off as whiny babies, like the people who didn’t want the statute of limitations increased for child molestation
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Aug 30, 2018 19:52
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I'm sick with rage and sadness but I still believe the faith itself is beautiful and the Church is more than its worst moments. But goddamn.
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Aug 30, 2018 19:56
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The Phlegmatist posted:I'm out. I've deleted all my social media accounts, and this will be the last one. take care, you'll be missed!
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Aug 30, 2018 20:11
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Quite apart from any political or theological stuff the big disappointment of the Francis papacy is that he just didnt take the entire bureaucracy in a room and drop a loving cluster bomb on it because, as a wise woman once said, its the only way to be sure
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Aug 30, 2018 20:36
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Godspeed Phlegmatist, we miss you already! Now he won't be able to see that wonderful caricature I found today of a "Pfarr-Konkurs" in 1897  A Pfarr-Konkurs was an exam that was necessary in order to get the coveted position of a parish priest. It took four days and consisted out of a written exam in dogmatics, exegesis, moral theology, church history, canon law, pastoral theology, catechetics, pedagogy and homiletics as well as a homily a prospective parish priest had to give to the the examination board, and the whole thing was supposed to be pretty hard as well as extremely important for a priest's future career - getting a bad grade here would doom you to either never lead a parish at all or to likely spend the rest of your days as a small-time rural priest covering tiny and poor parishes. The examiner asks: "Which vesper is said at the feast day of John the Baptist, I or II?". The priest answers (in Swabian dialect): "I think - the - first!" (This is probably an insanely obscure liturgy gag too, I'm guessing? Anyway I wouldn't know  )e: also I've just found out that my diocese's archive also contains a number of folders labelled "Inepta" which basically means letters or pamphlets by lunatics... or people critical of the Catholic Church I'm morbidly curious to look at them now, will report here when that eventually happens sometime, maybe.
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Aug 30, 2018 21:43
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One regular departs, one regular returns. I went out-of-town and took a couple weeks off from social media. But I prayed about this community daily, and I tried to remember as many of your names and intentions as I could, and I vow to do better as I stick around. The time away has been very fruitful. Despite the chaos and ugliness of the world, I'm more confident than ever that the way through this mess and out of this mess will be in compassion, both in its gentle and fierce forms. The pain is everywhere, and the consequences are life-and-death, but neither despair nor bitterness will ultimately help. We will either touch this pain and transform it, or we will give the next generations the best chance to recover and emerge victorious where we failed.
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Aug 30, 2018 23:23
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Lutha Mahtin posted:gonna miss thos phlegms he's catholic, surely you wanted to go with "I;m thinking about thos beads"
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Aug 31, 2018 19:54
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Ukraine Orthodox Church seeks “spiritual split” from Russia
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Aug 31, 2018 23:20
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There is really no right way to handle this at the moment. Should they split, there will still be a sizeable minority of people who want to stay with ROC, or with Kievan Patriarchate, or with one of the smaller splinter groups no matter what, and knowing history of religious conflicts in Ukraine, there is absolutely going to be religious violence, because old tensions from decades and centuries ago are still very much alive. I support Ukrainian autocephaly in principle, but boy, is it hard to choose the right time for it, and boy, is it not the right time right now.
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Aug 31, 2018 23:34
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Paladinus posted:There is really no right way to handle this at the moment. Should they split, there will still be a sizeable minority of people who want to stay with ROC, or with Kievan Patriarchate, or with one of the smaller splinter groups no matter what, and knowing history of religious conflicts in Ukraine, there is absolutely going to be religious violence, because old tensions from decades and centuries ago are still very much alive. I support Ukrainian autocephaly in principle, but boy, is it hard to choose the right time for it, and boy, is it not the right time right now. it sends a message to moscow--not only where they stand in relation to ukraine, but where they stand in relation to constantinople. they were only elevated to a patriarchate in 1589--and before then kiev was the seat for far longer than it had been in moscow. edit: this is all the more pressing since they discovered russia trying to hack into Patriarch Bartholomew's emails and those of the OCA. putin can't just do whatever he wants forever. https://apnews.com/26815e0d06d348f4b85350e96b78f6a8 HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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Aug 31, 2018 23:52
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HEY GUNS posted:it sends a message to moscow--not only where they stand in relation to ukraine, but where they stand in relation to constantinople. they were only elevated to a patriarchate in 1589--and before then kiev was the seat for far longer than it had been in moscow. I don't really care what message it may send to Putin, if regular people suffer as a result. On top of that, it's bound to create even more chaos in Ukraine, which Russia will love and exploit for propaganda.
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Sep 1, 2018 01:19
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it’s not like the situation in ukraine is peaceful whether it’s a provocation or not poo poo’s already bad in the ukraine so whatever
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Sep 1, 2018 02:24
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Senju Kannon posted:it’s not like the situation in ukraine is peaceful "let's all be nice to putin otherwise the ensuing war is your fault" is an old, old tactic
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Sep 1, 2018 02:26
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Senju Kannon posted:it’s not like the situation in ukraine is peaceful No, it's not whatever. It's pouring gasoline on open fire. And that's not even going into the whole 'one nation, one church' rhetoric that president Poroshenko openly peddles. It's going to exacerbate the conflict in Eastern Ukraine, it's going to cement Russia's support in Crimea, it's going to once again reignite conflicts in Western Ukraine, leading to a huge wave of religious violence from all sides. It's going to be like the 90-s all over with Greek Catholics, and Orthodox Christians from UOC(KP), UOC(MP), and UAOC resorting to violence to take churches from each other. HEY GUNS posted:"let's all be nice to putin otherwise the ensuing war is your fault" is an old, old tactic It's not being not nice to Putin, it's being 'not nice' to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ukrainians. The majority of them do not support Putin in any way, too. Recent polls show almost 30% of Ukrainians outside of currently occupied territories don't support autocephaly, with around 20% of them strongly opposing it. It's not exactly something that all Ukrainians agree on.
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Sep 1, 2018 03:02
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HEY GUNS posted:it sends a message to moscow--not only where they stand in relation to ukraine, but where they stand in relation to constantinople. they were only elevated to a patriarchate in 1589--and before then kiev was the seat for far longer than it had been in moscow. So what you're saying is, they should declare themselves autocephalous and restore the rightful order of things by asserting their hierarchical superiority over Moscow?
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Sep 1, 2018 03:49
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crosspost  lolStrixNebulosa posted:Does anyone in here know of any games that simulate being a priest/pastor? Graveyard Keeper has given me a bizarre itch - I like the patterns of decorating the church, preaching every sunday, and so on. i just posted rn to them that the only game i'm familiar with that sort of has some similar themes is Papers Please. to me that game captures some of the tension that pastors feel where they are pulled in multiple uncomfortable directions by different important stakeholders. for me it's also an interesting question having a parent who's a clergy because i got to spend hours as a kid being bored as heck sitting around watching my dad do pastoral duties
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Sep 1, 2018 05:34
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citybeatnik posted:Hey y'all. I parachuted in to the last thread asking for some advice talking to the priest that would be performing the baptism of my girlfriend's daughter since I wasn't much of a believer. Hey, welcome back. I'm hoping for a hilarious baptism. What's been your experience talking with the folks at this church? Lutha Mahtin posted:crosspost Different gameplay direction again, but I liked my Pillars of Eternity I & II, Priest of Eothas run. Eothas did nothing wrong
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Sep 1, 2018 07:21
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There is a German pastor simulator, but I don't remember the name. It wasn't very good, I think. E: it was The Guild 2. You could play as a priest there. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 09:15
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I've been pining for a early modern diocesan simulator for so long, you have no idea. I wanna make decisions like "this priest is obviously well qualified for that parish, but otoh the dimwit son of a local noblemen (who has generously given for the cathedral's new altar) also would like to get that specific parish, also it's the Enlightenment now and the duke wants to secularise all your holdings and dissolve all monasteries, oh and one of your cathedral canons has turned jansensist and started some poo poo with the abbot of a powerful abbey nearby who still insists on performing exorcisms on cows who stopped giving milk"
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Sep 1, 2018 11:50
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I suppose if we wait long enough Crusader Kings might include a priest simulator. It does everything else.
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Sep 1, 2018 12:21
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Well I've been playing prison architect lately, though the closest you get is employing a priest to absolve dudes on death row :/ System Metternich posted:I've been pining for a early modern diocesan simulator for so long, you have no idea. I wanna make decisions like "this priest is obviously well qualified for that parish, but otoh the dimwit son of a local noblemen (who has generously given for the cathedral's new altar) also would like to get that specific parish, also it's the Enlightenment now and the duke wants to secularise all your holdings and dissolve all monasteries, oh and one of your cathedral canons has turned jansensist and started some poo poo with the abbot of a powerful abbey nearby who still insists on performing exorcisms on cows who stopped giving milk" I love you.
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Sep 1, 2018 13:24
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can your early modern religion sim tie-into my early modern regiment sim??? anyway https://vn.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulate/embassy/sections-offices/pas/ look at the list of us vietnam embassy officials until you find the person relevant to this thread. Read closely, i promise it's worth it.
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Sep 1, 2018 13:52
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Paladinus posted:There is a German pastor simulator, but I don't remember the name. It wasn't very good, I think. there's a german everything else simulator
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Sep 1, 2018 13:54
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Guild 2 is only terrible if you play it unmodded, imo anyway - the megamod (on Steam workshop) makes it a fairly decent game, tho still really wonky and frustrating (because the game's original devs sucked and while the game is very moddable, some of the base code mods work with apparently sucks), also frustrating because virtually all the modders work in German originally and then translate badly (or not at all) to English. Basically, I'm annoyed that German games so frequently don't really do localizations for anywhere else, even when they sell in other languages - it's annoying when one is sold a game in one language then discovers that basically everything for that game (particularly re documentation!) is in another language.
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Sep 1, 2018 14:40
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HEY GUNS posted:can your early modern religion sim tie-into my early modern regiment sim??? Pope Thrower would be a decent name for an early modern/warhammer crossover Bolt Thrower cover band.
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Sep 1, 2018 14:54
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Hitman let's you dress up as a priest I've always kinda wanted to do a card driven game a la Twilight Struggle about the political fallout of Vatican ii but I don't really think there's a tasteful way to handle the abuse crisis
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Sep 1, 2018 15:13
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About, I don't know, 15 years ago? Even earlier? Somebody, i think an actual Lutheran pastor, wrote a text adventure where you played a Lutheran pastor. You got to do things like try to figure out a hospital's corridors so you could visit a sick parishoner, pick up your wife's dry cleaning, chair a meeting of the parish council, review fliers the youth group made to promote their event, try to find some candles you could swear were in the storage room, write your sermon, lose the game because you decided instead of writing the sermon you'd play just one game of Tetris. It might not be the most exciting game, I remember when I was playing it, I felt horribly busy and stressed for time as I'd try and inevitably fail to get everything done in the day I tried to do.
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System Metternich posted:I've been pining for a early modern diocesan simulator for so long, you have no idea. I wanna make decisions like "this priest is obviously well qualified for that parish, but otoh the dimwit son of a local noblemen (who has generously given for the cathedral's new altar) also would like to get that specific parish, also it's the Enlightenment now and the duke wants to secularise all your holdings and dissolve all monasteries, oh and one of your cathedral canons has turned jansensist and started some poo poo with the abbot of a powerful abbey nearby who still insists on performing exorcisms on cows who stopped giving milk" Man, I would play that. So many interesting decisions you can pack into that, but it'd be a hard sell and nigh impossible to get made without someone with strong opinions trying to write in What Should Be Correct via a modern lens. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Tias posted:Pope Thrower would be a decent name for an early modern/warhammer crossover Bolt Thrower cover band. another year, another application to the US embassy at the Vatican rejected
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HopperUK posted:I suppose if we wait long enough Crusader Kings might include a priest simulator. It does everything else. Maybe for CK3, but for some obstinate reason Paradox absolutely refuses to make playable theocracies, and this upcoming DLC (which is heavily religion-themed, but still no dice) is supposed to be the last one. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 17:53
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Maybe for CK2, but for some obstinate reason Paradox absolutely refuses to make playable theocracies, and this upcoming DLC (which is heavily religion-themed, but still no dice) is supposed to be the last one. CK2 is a dynasty simulator, really, where you play as the leader of a family throughout the game, and playing as a theocracy, which has its own succession laws that aren't family based, doesn't really work well with the rest of that.
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Sep 1, 2018 17:57
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Giving the homily / "reflection on the word"  for Labor Sunday. What's y'all's best hot take on preaching labor?
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Sep 1, 2018 18:50
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that the rich are in fact not good and that trickle down economics are downright satanic?
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Sep 1, 2018 21:00
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Oh James 5:1-5 is already in there don't you worry.
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That work, even if difficult, can be/is a mercy that dulls or distracts from other pains or worries in life. Had a boss tell me as much when I was in an especially rough spot. I hated my job there, but months of unemployment/mental issues were worse. Still had the mental issues, but I wasn’t focusing on them for at least 9 hours a day.
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The last mass I listened on the internet radio had a nice choir, which was nice. The local church (a thoroughly meh modernist piece which my gf described as "a warehouse with an altar in it") choir sounds like half of them members are there for their own funeral and with the internet radio going to a different church every time it's very much a crap shoot on the quality of homily and the singing that you'll get. Caufman posted:Different gameplay direction again, but I liked my Pillars of Eternity I & II, Priest of Eothas run. Eothas did nothing wrong Running Priest of Eothas in Pillars I. You get to ask the first NPC companion you find what Eothas is
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