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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Oh no, won't somebody think of the poor lunatics who think Sachsen is 80% Muslim and the EU is using gay rays to turn kids homosexual in their sleep mods pls namechange to "EU gay rays"
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System Metternich posted:Everybody involved in this is a Nazi, and I mean that in the 100% bonafide, no-hyperbole, historically correct sense of the word. Everybody who didn’t identify as a Nazi before, marched along with them and didn’t book it the millisecond they started chanting that poo poo is a Nazi. Everybody who claims that these are just concerned citizens with a few bad apples mixed in is either a raging idiot or a Nazi (but I repeat myself). Hope this helps. Pretty sure only pigdog pretends to think otherwise.
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Pand posted:Pretty sure pigdog only pretends to think. yes
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System Metternich posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_ZdP79O84 
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If you find you're utterly incapable of protesting an issue without actively supporting Nazis, no matter how hard you look for an alternative way of protesting it, it's time to take a serious look at that issue and think about whether it's maybe a Nazi issue to begin with. Or if you're doing enough to kick out the Nazis from your protest. Whether a protest consists of literally only 100% Nazis that need to have been convicted of Volksherhetzung to qualify as Nazi, or however far you can still move that goalpost, or of 10% Nazis and 90% their active supporters is, at best, a semantic difference. You can say the Third Reich consisted technically only of Nazis and their supporters but it was still the Third Reich. There's a reason the US forces investigated everyone.
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My Lovely Horse posted:There's a reason the US forces investigated everyone. Sure they did. 
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My Lovely Horse posted:There's a reason the US forces investigated everyone. Well known US investigation Operation Paperclip.
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Even if the Americans had, though, it would be meaningless now, because they have recently reaffirmed their commitment to enable and promote nazis, fascists and other far-right movements in Europe.
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My Lovely Horse posted:If you find you're utterly incapable of protesting an issue without actively supporting Nazis, no matter how hard you look for an alternative way of protesting it, it's time to take a serious look at that issue and think about whether it's maybe a Nazi issue to begin with. Or if you're doing enough to kick out the Nazis from your protest. It's not as if the Western European, and German population in particular has been given a lot of opportunities of protesting mass immigration or other such issues without being called Nazis. It's as much on the observer as it is to the organizers to distinguish Nazis from non-Nazis, and legitimate grievances from far-right violence.... but we all know the leftists aren't exactly tolerant in that regard. So we've come to the point where people just don't care. If the observer can't tell a Nazi from a non-Nazi, that's on them. That's what I'm seeing happening. The power of making people do what you want by calling them nazis by association is waning. Not exactly a German phenomenon, but uniquely poignant in Germany for obvious reasons. What I'm interested is in the response, if anything, that Merkel and powers that be have to offer to solve the actual problem that caused all this. They've painted themselves in the corner in insisting that mass immigration is going to work out great, while every kind of migrant attack or bothersome statistic undermines that. Will they at least do something so that career criminals who have been denied asylum would be deported, rather than left to roam around in gangs and stab people?
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pigdog posted:The power of making people do what you want by calling them nazis by association is waning. Not exactly a German phenomenon, but uniquely poignant in Germany for obvious reasons. Fortunately, the power of the Wasserwerfer remains at full capacity thanks to global warming enabling the use of glaciers as tactical reserves. 
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I can't believe I'm being labeled a Nazi, I say as I'm chanting Ausländer raus in a demo next to a guy with a 88 tattooed in his neck
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I so desperately wish I didn't have to join the Nazis in their Nazi protest, it's so unfair, I wish the leftists had the sense to distinguish me from the Nazis as I walk with the Nazis in their protest. How's the sourcing on the Rape of Nanking comparison coming along by the way?
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oliwan posted:I can't believe I'm being labeled a Nazi, I say as I'm chanting Ausländer raus in a demo next to a guy with a 88 tattooed in his neck So much for the tollerant left!
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Libluini posted:Well, we could send in the Bundeswehr to mow down everyone with machine guns. Maybe bomb the Sächsisch Landtag with some Taurus cruise missiles (otherwise those things will never see any use, anyway). Great idea! The average soldiers rigorous training on the use of the tactical broomstick will be invaluable when the time comes to sweep the streets clean of Nazi-trash.
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Wie siehts bei euch aus, was schwurbelt sich die Presse so zusammen? Nabelschau und viel Verständnis für die besorgten Bürger mit dem Faible für Naziparolen?
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Tagesspiegel had an absolutely fuckin nuclear take as Aufmacher on their website. It's all about Sicherheit etc. https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/harald-martenstein-warum-der-rechtsradikalismus-zunimmt/22984858.html Harald Martenstein def has brain damage. Fleischhauer at SPON also, predictably, had a scorcher about how we should stop being such pussies about das bißchen Nazism but he got corncobbed by a guy who said yeah I reported from Tahrir and poo poo and now I'm in Chemnitz while you're sitting in your Münchener Altbauwohnung and lemme tell you this is legit scary. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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Power Khan posted:Wie siehts bei euch aus, was schwurbelt sich die Presse so zusammen? Nabelschau und viel Verständnis für die besorgten Bürger mit dem Faible für Naziparolen? Soweit ich das sehe gibts (zumindest in den Medien, die ich konsumiere, sprich v.a. Spiegel, Süddeutsche, Zeit und Augsburger Allgemeine) einen Haufen "Das ist ein sächsisches Problem und kein deutsches!"-Meinungen sowie eine überraschende Anzahl an Kommentaren, die die AfD vom Verfassungsschutz beobachtet sehen wollen. Wirkliches Verständnis für die "besorgten Bürger" seh ich da nicht, aber auch nur eine begrenzte Bereitschaft zur Erkenntnis, dass das nur die Spitze vom Eisberg sein dürfte und sich das Problem sicher nicht auf Sachsen beschränkt.
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Reminder that Martenstein once had a take that was "why don't trans people just pick whichever bathroom they feel like, and if challenged just lie that the other bathroom is broken/occupied?" Two sub-takes were supporting this thesis: i) "I go to the women's bathroom all the time when the men's line is too long; I have yet to get my rear end kicked or whatever" ii) "One time when I was in Israel as a young adult, I really wanted to mack on this Israeli chick, but I figured that she wouldn't want to have sex with me if she knew I was German. So I lied that I was Swiss and we had sex. The end! No moral." Afaik no one held him at gunpoint at any time during the writing or publishing of that column. He is probably the single most brain damaged idiot getting published these days, and I include FJ Wagner (pbuh) in this
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aphid_licker posted:Tagesspiegel had an absolutely fuckin nuclear take as Aufmacher on their website. It's all about Sicherheit etc. Has Fleischhauer ever taken a position that didn't boil down to maximising his "smug detachment" levels?
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Smirr posted:Reminder that Martenstein once had a take that was "why don't trans people just pick whichever bathroom they feel like, and if challenged just lie that the other bathroom is broken/occupied?" lmao, what the gently caress
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:lmao, what the gently caress https://www.zeit.de/2013/12/Martenstein-Oeffentliche-Toiletten I misremembered slightly: he doesn't brag about closing the deal here, and the lie he told was that he was a Swiss Jew  Though iirc there's at least one more column where he volunteers the fact that he used to, ahem, manufacture consent in Israel, but I can't find it at the moment
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:lmao, what the gently caress Nicht jeder hat genug Talent, seine schmutzigen Altherrnephantasien im Feuilleton oder in der E-Literatur auszuleben. Bei manchen reicht es nur zum Kolumnisten. 
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There was a long interview with Martenstein on Übermedien a while ago that holds some valuable insights. I tried finding a paragraph that really sums it up and I think this is best, but the whole thing is worth reading:quote:Sie sind schon besessen von diesem Thema „Gender“, oder? Basically he writes clickbait for people who think they don't fall for clickbait.
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My Lovely Horse posted:There was a long interview with Martenstein on Übermedien a while ago that holds some valuable insights. I tried finding a paragraph that really sums it up and I think this is best, but the whole thing is worth reading: i strongly doubt there is anything martenstein-related that is worth reading tbh
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botany posted:i strongly doubt there is anything martenstein-related that is worth reading tbh Bleib fein, sag "Nein!" zu Martenstein.
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My Lovely Horse posted:There was a long interview with Martenstein on Übermedien a while ago that holds some valuable insights. I tried finding a paragraph that really sums it up and I think this is best, but the whole thing is worth reading: on a meta level this is actually cool and good, because people everywhere have inflated opinions of themselves of course this means that all of his expressed opinions within his contrarian click bait pieces are garbage by definition
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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A nice nazi woman was in my tram yesterday in Erfurt. She tried to start a fight with a teenaged girl and then spat on a black woman holding a baby. I was so loving gobsmacked it took the sound of her spitting to snap me out of it and throw her out. What the gently caress.
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Wird das Wirsindmehr Konzert heut zufällig irgendwo live übertragen?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Wird das Wirsindmehr Konzert heut zufällig irgendwo live übertragen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5zhHhkMosQ
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Random facts of the day: The percentage of Muslims in Sachsen in 2015( when the Pegida demos were going on in full force) was 0.48%. The percentage of foreigners in late 2016 was 4.2%.
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If you think about it getting an offer that you have to produce an opinion once a week and it will be broadcast to the entire world and accessible on the Internet until the end of time is fuckin entrapment
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http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/die-cdu-in-sachsen-hat-ein-ernstes-problem-15766634.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_0quote:Das ganze Dilemma wurde jüngst deutlich, als im nordsächsischen Städtchen Oschatz ein NPD-Mann Schöffe werden wollte. Im Stadtrat scheiterte das zwar an der erforderlichen Zweidrittelmehrheit, aber bei der Wahl offenbarte sich eine verstörende Nähe zwischen CDU und NPD. Die Mehrheit der CDU-Stadtratsfraktion votierte für den Kandidaten. Sie hatte kein Problem damit, ein bekanntes Mitglied der Rechtsextremen als ehrenamtlichen Richter zu nominieren. Der Bewerber sei zwar NPD-Mitglied, sagte CDU-Fraktionschef Dietmar Schurig, aber im Stadtrat noch nie durch rechtsextreme Äußerungen aufgefallen. 
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https://leute.tagesspiegel.de/charlottenburg-wilmersdorf/intro/2018/08/31/55683/ Meine Fresse, kann nicht endlich mal einer Berlin plattmachen.
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Randler posted:https://leute.tagesspiegel.de/charlottenburg-wilmersdorf/intro/2018/08/31/55683/ I think I know just the guy. I'm sure you two would get along splendidly.
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Dommolus Magnus posted:I think I know just the guy. I'm sure you two would get along splendidly. First of lmao at linking to a ZDF-hosted picture of Stalin. Second of all, wouldn't Speer be more appropriate for this story?
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Babies Getting Rabies posted:First of lmao at linking to a ZDF-hosted picture of Stalin. Second of all, wouldn't Speer be more appropriate for this story?
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