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Immanentized posted:I had serious problems with that book, the whole secondary plot was massively, massively frustrating. Yeah, honestly, none of it was good. Even the action sets were just written like. "And then they shot the orks. And then they died." It's at least another book down from my Humble Bundle backlog.
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Opentarget posted:Just finished Roboute Guilliman: Lord of Ultramar, and man, dude is a nerd. if perturabo weren't already the primarchs' token Model Train Enthusiast, guilliman would be
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Linnear posted:Finished up Corax. It was a pretty lousy read, but the ending was quite sad. I think I'll just avoid Gav Thorpe forever. he talks a lot about keeler because she's aside from maybe the primarchs/malcador/the emperor the most important figure historically in the whole heresy and this was her introduction Also I think Horus Rising is still one of the better books in the series and a fantastic first book, so to each his own I guess.
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Opentarget posted:Yeah, honestly, none of it was good. Even the action sets were just written like. "And then they shot the orks. And then they died." I've given up on the Primarchs series, everyone I've tried turned out to be not worth reading.
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I've been sick for a week, I had too much time on my hands so I went on a Slaves to Darkness is fairly average, it gives some nice insights into the relationship between the chaos gods and Horus, also Lorgar finally gets his due for all his scheming. Really didn't like Lorgar's portrayal here, I feel it's not consistent with his portrayal in ADB's books.. Not a bad read but it's pretty much skippable as it does not add anything substantial, honestly. Lords of Silence is great, as others have said, it's a good characterisation of a dull and not much explored legion. Vorx is the chillest bro. It's weakest point may very well be that it introduces a lot of characters and does not have the time to properly expand them all. for some stupid reason in my headthe sorcerer's demon raven familiar, who speaks with odd pauses between phrases, sounds like William Shatner's Captain Kirk and it amuses me to no end. . Reading this book while being sick myself was quite freaky at times. Recommended read. I don't have much to say about either Carrion Throne and Watchers of the Throne that has not already been said, solid books. I'm about one third into Jaghatai Khan, Warhawk of Chogoris and it's not bad, it follows the same broad characterisations that we saw in Scars but without the stupid bad asian accents. Also, Jaghatai and his closest guys love to troll the Imperial bureaucracy to no end. Chris Wright was already a solid writer in my mind, I think his strong suit is that he strikes a good compromise between world building, engaging dialogue, character writing and action. He is not as good as peak Abnett or ADB, but I prefer one Wright instead of getting two Nick Kymes or Gav Thorpe.
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Dantine ended being the best thing about Lords of Silence for me. The way his character just pivoted on a dime surprisingly worked so well after all his previous musings and such.
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Just read through The Armour of Fate short story and the opening with Gulliman struggling with being stuck in his armour is surprisingly tongue in cheek. Guy Haley did a really good job of writing about how having a gigantic power fist and a huge pair of wings and halo stuck on your back for years might perhaps become somewhat annoying. Also having itches he could never scratch. He should write similar for one of the Chaos guys who is half fused to their armour.
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I found a big stack of issues of Warhammer Visions at the used book shop. I was like, oh hey, a magazine of Warhammer models and art, cool, I will buy them. They're all just pictures of models. No artwork or painting guides or anything. There's a couple pages of fan-submitted models and customs inspired by John Blanche, but beyond that it's all just the regular promotional models, like from White Dwarf. What was the point of this magazine?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I found a big stack of issues of Warhammer Visions at the used book shop. I was like, oh hey, a magazine of Warhammer models and art, cool, I will buy them. I think it was from back when they were trying to re-vamp the WD magazine into an all digital thing. People reacted strongly that they loved the modelling aspect, so visions was put out as a half assed form of appeasement.
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Z the IVth posted:Just read through The Armour of Fate short story and the opening with Gulliman struggling with being stuck in his armour is surprisingly tongue in cheek. Guy Haley did a really good job of writing about how having a gigantic power fist and a huge pair of wings and halo stuck on your back for years might perhaps become somewhat annoying. Also having itches he could never scratch. I like that they basically turned Bobby G into a phoniex lord. Pretty good story for a short too.
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They just quietly shut it down after like a year or something. Might've been around when they revamped WD back to monthly basis instead of weekly.
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Cooked Auto posted:They just quietly shut it down after like a year or something. Might've been around when they revamped WD back to monthly basis instead of weekly. I think you're right, I was flirting with getting back into The Hobby a few years ago while the whole White Dwarf thing was happening and it was a small (but
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Greataval posted:I like that they basically turned Bobby G into a phoniex lord. Pretty good story for a short too. How's this work? I totally missed it, though I'm not sure how the phoenix lords work.
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Sep 4, 2018 14:48
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Immanentized posted:How's this work? I totally missed it, though I'm not sure how the phoenix lords work. If I recall, as far as Phoenix Lords and shrine exarchs go, is that Shrine exarchs are the cumulative experience of the souls of prior exarchs guiding the current exarch, while a Phoenix lord will use the soul to revive the original lord/repair the armor, and the person in the suit is basically a meat puppet.
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TBH I think the Phoenix Lords are just the oldest living Exarchs. The Striking Scorpions had two after all. Well, "living".
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flipping through these old issues of Warhammer Visions, a lot of time they have Age of Sigmar models on rectangular bases. Sometimes with whole units of models all crammed together on one big base. I wonder what the deal is with that
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Sep 4, 2018 19:24
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What if I told you... they ALL used to be like that?
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Yeah used to be with Warhammer Fantasy that you would get square bases to help line up the formations easier. They even sold large formation plates so you could move an entire unit in a tray
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Arquinsiel posted:TBH I think the Phoenix Lords are just the oldest living Exarchs. The Striking Scorpions had two after all. My understanding is the phoenix lords are the original exarchs, the creators of that Aspect cult. As has been said their armour basically contains the Phoenix Lord's soul and overwrites that of whoever dons the armour.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Yeah used to be with Warhammer Fantasy that you would get square bases to help line up the formations easier. They even sold large formation plates so you could move an entire unit in a tray 
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MrNemo posted:My understanding is the phoenix lords are the original exarchs, the creators of that Aspect cult. As has been said their armour basically contains the Phoenix Lord's soul and overwrites that of whoever dons the armour.
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Arquinsiel posted:TBH I think the Phoenix Lords are just the oldest living Exarchs. The Striking Scorpions had two after all. Definitely not living. In path of the warrior, Karandras dies in battle and then his soul possesses the main character and takes him over.
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A better comparsion would be that RBs armor is basically a primarch sized terminator armor that functions as a dreadnaught. Like I havent read the book but the whole I cant get out of this armor thing and it sucks is what dreadnoughts go through too. Its why a bunch of them freak out when they wake up or beg to not be put into the armor.
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There was a short story in one of the very early Black Library short story collections (Into the Maelstrom, I think?) which ended with a Space Marine tortured by Chaos Space Marines via leaving him inside a disconnected dreadnought core for decades/centuries.
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Telsa Cola posted:A better comparsion would be that RBs armor is basically a primarch sized terminator armor that functions as a dreadnaught. He eventually gets out of it though. He doesn't get out because Yvraine told him he would die if he took it off but then Eldrad was like "you might just get more emo since it's holding your soul together" and then he proceeds to strip..
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Oh, neat. Thanks!
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Telsa Cola posted:A better comparsion would be that RBs armor is basically a primarch sized terminator armor that functions as a dreadnaught. Who? edit: Oh, Roboute?
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Z the IVth posted:He eventually gets out of it though. He doesn't get out because Yvraine told him he would die if he took it off but then Eldrad was like "you might just get more emo since it's holding your soul together" and then he proceeds to strip.. keep going I'm nearly there
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a lovely king posted:keep going I'm nearly there Robby got way into ASMR videos of picking up paper for a while there
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I'm about to spend 20 hours on planes. What should I get? Prefer Horus Heresy but open to any recent space wolves or fun space marine poo poo that is more recent. Have just read Prospero Burns, A Thousand Sons and First Heretic. All great. Enjoyed Fulgrim and Legion. That's basically all I've read except for the dire Dark Angels books and the first three which I assume you won't recommend anyway!
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JBP posted:I'm about to spend 20 hours on planes. What should I get? Prefer Horus Heresy but open to any recent space wolves or fun space marine poo poo that is more recent. Have just read Prospero Burns, A Thousand Sons and First Heretic. All great. Enjoyed Fulgrim and Legion. That's basically all I've read except for the dire Dark Angels books and the first three which I assume you won't recommend anyway! Its not exactly recent, but for a single volume of Marine fun, I'd offer "Brothers of the Snake" by Dan Abnett. He's better known, and rightfully so, for the Gaunt's Ghosts and Eisenhorn books but I like Brothers of the Snake too. If you like BotS that should encourage you to get his other books as well which is all to the good.
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JBP posted:I'm about to spend 20 hours on planes. What should I get? Prefer Horus Heresy but open to any recent space wolves or fun space marine poo poo that is more recent. Have just read Prospero Burns, A Thousand Sons and First Heretic. All great. Enjoyed Fulgrim and Legion. That's basically all I've read except for the dire Dark Angels books and the first three which I assume you won't recommend anyway! Know No Fear, Betrayer, Unremembered Empire Then hit Brothers of the Snake, Sabbat Crusade. Download Prophets of the Waagh audio drama for a 3 hour break of madness Immanentized fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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For the Horus Heresy, the logical choices would be Know No Fear, Betrayer, and Unremembered Empire. Read them in that order. They're all by either Dan Abnett or ADB, and they follow up the First Heretic, being about the Word Bearer's assault on Calth/Ultramar and the Ultramarines response.
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I'm going to grab Know No Fear and Betrayer since they seem like companions? I'll grab bots as well since it sounds like fun and Abnett is awesome. Thanks. I was originally just going to grab Know No Fear but Betrayer sounds rad.
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After reading and digging 'Scars', are there any other good White Scars books out there? 'Last Hunt'/'Path of Heaven' worth reading?
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susan posted:After reading and digging 'Scars', are there any other good White Scars books out there? 'Last Hunt'/'Path of Heaven' worth reading? If written by Chris Wraight, yes.
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susan posted:After reading and digging 'Scars', are there any other good White Scars books out there? 'Last Hunt'/'Path of Heaven' worth reading? I really dug Path of Heaven. Good Scars action but also some of the funniest Emperor's Children stuff in the Heresy. They're the primary antagonists and there's some great scheming stuff with them.
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Heh the new Cain book has a Xenos Inquisitor and Malleus Inquisitor arguing about which of the threats to the planet they are on is a bigger threat. quote:‘Just how reliable is this Sambhatain’s prediction likely to be, anyway?’
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susan posted:After reading and digging 'Scars', are there any other good White Scars books out there? 'Last Hunt'/'Path of Heaven' worth reading? Jaghathai Khan: Warhawk of Chogoris, is the prequel to Scars, has low bolter porn content though.
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Angry Lobster posted:Jaghathai Khan: Warhawk of Chogoris, is the prequel to Scars, has low bolter porn content though. Does it have high intrigue and low politics among the fractious tribes of not!-Mongolians on not!-Mongolia planet? Asking for a friend.
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