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Elias_Maluco posted:I think thew only David Lynch movie I havent watched yet is Dune It's good
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Sep 5, 2018 17:04
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I would consider Dune to be an interesting failure at the very least- you still have some neat visuals, the first time Kyle and Lynch worked together, Patrick Stewart and Sting etc.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:15
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Blue Velvet is my favorite Lynch movie. The scene at Ben's (that suave gently caress!) is a masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7dDAm3NAk I about fell over watching this the first time when it got to the "In Dreams" part. There's only a couple scenes where I think Dern and Mclaughlin's lines are... not great. Dennis Hopper carries the whole movie though imo.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:18
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I want to be a cool guy and say Dune is actually good, but it is bad. Interesting bad, at least.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:22
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I WILL KILL YOU! 
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Sep 5, 2018 17:41
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Kilometers Davis posted:I need to watch Wild At Heart. I love everything Elvis related and that + Lynch sounds loving brilliant.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:52
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Dune is a hell of a film and entertaining as gently caress. It's only a failure in terms of being an adaptation IMO, everyone who worked on that film is giving it their all.
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Sep 5, 2018 18:50
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Elias_Maluco posted:I think thew only David Lynch movie I havent watched yet is Dune
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Sep 5, 2018 18:55
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Dune is carried by its performances and production design. The story is nonsense, even for people who read the book. But the setpieces are pretty amazing. It's the kind of film you can watch muted and get a lot from the visuals but it's also fun hearing really good actors and actresses quote lines from the book.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:05
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I've seen all his films except The Elephant Man.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:21
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I've seen all his films but The Straight Story. I didn't like Wild at Heart much - it was a bit too much of a freak show - but I want to give it another shot. Dune is not good, but I don't blame Lynch for that. Apparently he felt he couldn't do it justice in anything less than a 6-hour cut, but the studio forced him to 2 hours. He touches on some of the experience making Dune in his book Catching the Big Fish, and it was clearly a depressing and demoralizing experience for him.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:10
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Hijinks Ensue posted:I've seen all his films but The Straight Story.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:16
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The Straight Story is the single most depressing G-rated movie I've ever seen.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:19
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Just don't expect any of the Lynch trademark surrealism and nightmare logic from Straight Story. It's, well, very straightforward.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:21
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I love Dune. I love everything about it. I love the dialogue, the costumes, the eyebrows. I even love the weirding way.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:51
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Elias_Maluco posted:I think thew only David Lynch movie I havent watched yet is Dune Piling on, but you should watch Dune. A lot of people don't like it because it's not a great adaptation of the book or a great rip on space opera films or even very good at being a David Lynch film. Here's the thing: gently caress that though, it's bizarre and has some great performances and there aren't many films like it. You're not going to be mad about having seen it for sure and it's never uninteresting. As for favourite Lynch films -- mine is officially whichever one I watched last. I love them all. Whenever I do a rewatch I inevitably conclude THAT one is my favourite.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:56
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Straight Story's great, I hadn't seen it until last year and it's now one of my favorite Lynch films. Also one of my favorite scenes in Twin Peaks is Stanton just sitting playing guitar, so that adds up.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:11
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My Lovely Horse posted:Just don't expect any of the Lynch trademark surrealism and nightmare logic from Straight Story. It's, well, very straightforward. I feel like this is decent advice for someone who's only seen Eraserhead or suchlike, but if you've seen all of Twin Peaks you're more than prepared for the Straight Story given how many hours of it are given over exclusively to honest to god small-town American dramedy, often around incredibly old men in very gradual transit. The guy who hasn't seen Elephant Man should get on that also.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:35
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Straight Story's great, I hadn't seen it until last year and it's now one of my favorite Lynch films. Also one of my favorite scenes in Twin Peaks is Stanton just sitting playing guitar, so that adds up. I stumbled across an album released by Stanton on Spotify the other night, which I didn't know existed and then it made me cry. HDS was a gift. Edit: and if you haven't seen Lucky, you need to get right on that. It even has David Lynch in an acting role. cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Sep 6, 2018 |
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Sep 6, 2018 02:41
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Hijinks Ensue posted:Dune is not good, but I don't blame Lynch for that. Apparently he felt he couldn't do it justice in anything less than a 6-hour cut, but the studio forced him to 2 hours. He touches on some of the experience making Dune in his book Catching the Big Fish, and it was clearly a depressing and demoralizing experience for him. He must have changed his mind about that. In the recent Room to Dream he says it’s his own fault. Lynch knew that Dino de Laurentiis wanted a blockbuster, which couldn’t be longer than 2h18m. When he signed the contract he sold out. It would be Dino‘s movie, not his. At least de Laurentiis let Lynch make Blue Velvet the way he wanted to.  I‘ve also somehow never seen The Elephant Man. Not sure why. Lost Highway always seemed to me like a bad version of Caché (in the sense that Caché actually executes on the premise rather than going on a weird tangent). It’s really impressive that he managed to make that movie after the Twin Peaks movie bombed so hard, though.
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Sep 6, 2018 11:13
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I used to not like Cache very much because it seemed kind of didactic to me, but then seeing both versions of Funny Games back to back really kind of put it in perspective for me lol.
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Sep 6, 2018 11:35
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InfiniteZero posted:Piling on, but you should watch Dune. A lot of people don't like it because it's not a great adaptation of the book or a great rip on space opera films or even very good at being a David Lynch film. Here's the thing: gently caress that though, it's bizarre and has some great performances and there aren't many films like it. You're not going to be mad about having seen it for sure and it's never uninteresting. Alright, you conviced me My personal favorites are, equally, Lost Highway, Mulholand Drive and Inland Empire
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Sep 6, 2018 12:35
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I ain’t never watching Dune, idgaf what y’all think Also I don’t think Elephant Man is all that great
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Sep 6, 2018 12:51
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wa27 posted:Blue Velvet is my favorite Lynch movie. The scene at Ben's (that suave gently caress!) is a masterpiece: Just a sidenote because I never get to say it: Dean Stockwell's resume is bonkers
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Sep 6, 2018 19:03
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Dean Stockwell never ceases to blow me away and I'm a big fan of his character acting - all the way from his fantastic Twilight Zone episode (I never that was him till now!) to what he did on BSG. The idea that Lynch wrote the role of Ben for him specifically, and that he let Dean do all his own makeup, and that Dean came up with the idea of singing into the light.... Goddamn, he must be one suave motherfucker in real life, too. And it makes me wonder too, because Ben's makeup is SO perfectly creepy/sleazy in that way you know is inspired from some all-too-real life experience that's kinda being shown in the cadence of a bad trip/dream by Lynch. I don't know, somethin' like that. I'm glad people relate to the way I see and feel about Lynch films. And also, I'm quite familiar with Gasper Noe and Michael Haneke (and Lars von Trier and Thomas Vinterberg) along with some of their predecessors - Rainer Werner Fassbinder is kinda probably my favorite director who could fall into the "European Arthouse" category, he was just a goddamn genius and a bit of a maniac - not as much as Herzog but moreso then Wim Wenders, in the context of his German contemporary peers. Well, he was always my favorite. Anyway, I was thinking about him because I'd been reminded of his utterly fantastic adaptation of Berlin-Alexanderplatz which I realized reminds me of The Return/Season 3 in terms of like... length and breadth and scope, and being a very personal and singular MASSIVE creation that really sort of encapsulates the personality of its creator in a particularly epic way. I hope that makes some degree of sense - in terms of tone and content they're both different, but still. Berlin-Alexanderplatz is a pretty amazing 15-hour TV show/massive film, though. I'm probably a bit more attached to it because I saw it like.. 17 years ago or something on VHS and it was this REALLY special thing and there was just nothing else remotely like it on TV. It's certainly more... queer than anything Lynch ever does, but then it's Fassbinder so... deal, 'kay? 
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Sep 6, 2018 21:33
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Let's see what my local grocery store chain is doing https://twitter.com/chuchugoogoo/status/1037784769482743813 
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Sep 6, 2018 23:00
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Hi Achilles
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Sep 7, 2018 00:01
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https://twitter.com/ultrabrilliant/status/1037683596167970816?s=21 I thought this tweet was good.
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Sep 7, 2018 09:23
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I just moved in with two new roommates who have never ever seen Twin Peaks nor do they know anything about it... I don't quite know how to get them truly intrigued/hooked enough, though... Thery're both a bit younger than me and very prone to pulling out their cellphones and half-paying attention to stuff.. But one of them is very into the mystical and supernatural and inexplicable and I hope like seeing the Red Room dream scene for the first time and such will knock his socks off... Who knows. I dunno if we'll ever make it to season 3 because of how dated seasons 1 and 2 are... I'd skip a lot of season 2 for them.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:25
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kaworu posted:I'd skip a lot of season 2 for them
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Sep 7, 2018 18:36
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kaworu posted:I just moved in with two new roommates who have never ever seen Twin Peaks nor do they know anything about it... I don't quite know how to get them truly intrigued/hooked enough, though... Thery're both a bit younger than me and very prone to pulling out their cellphones and half-paying attention to stuff.. But one of them is very into the mystical and supernatural and inexplicable and I hope like seeing the Red Room dream scene for the first time and such will knock his socks off... Who knows. By the time you finish the Laura arc you'll know whether or not they can handle Season 2. If all they're interested in is finding out who the killer is, they probably won't get into it. If they fall in love with the wacky characters, there's still plenty there worth watching in Season 2. Unless you're one of those weirdos who doesn't like the Nadine amnesia storyline or General Ben Horne.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:45
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If they're not into it after the pilot then gently caress them. No amount of hand holding or babying them to trick them away from their phones is going to cut it, and I suspect David Lynch wouldn't want them watching Twin Peaks either. EDIT: I mean Jesus loving Christ, I got into Twin Peaks because my best friend said you gotta see this poo poo man, then gave me a cassette tape. Then I watched the cassette tape. Why do we need loving traps with sticks and mechanisms to get people to watch TV now holy poo poo Alan_Shore fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 18:50
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I personally think the season 2 wackiness just makes the finale that much more disturbing. Like, a bubbly lull of hacky soap opera, amnesia, and pine weasels, and then you’re slapped in the face with pure unadulterated metaphysical horror.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:50
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The mid-season 2 storylines aren't great, but Diane Keaton's episode that wraps them all up is fantastic. The really borderline unwatchable part of Twin Peaks S2 is everything right after that all the way until the finale.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:56
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Just let them watch the show and don't guide their experience or skip things or tell them "These are the bad parts."
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Sep 7, 2018 19:12
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You should skip whatever they don‘t like. A friend of mine has tried watching the series multiple times, and she always gets fed up halfway through season two. It‘s not just the soap bullshit or the terrible new characters. Cooper also turns dangerously inept, which makes it even more frustrating. Roland Barthes himself said (in Le Plaisir du Texte) that it‘s good (and erotic) to skip over passages if it gives you pleasure. Who are you to disagree with Roland Barthes?  Get off your high horses (which are the white of the eye), people.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:40
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Skipping season 2 episodes on first watch is dumb since even the worst ones are still relevant to the later good ones. I wouldn’t even bother trying to show this show to someone with no attention span.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:46
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Yo, I want my friends to read Lord of the Rings. Which chapters can they skip? They get bored and start looking at sparkly things
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Sep 7, 2018 19:51
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I'd argue that at least some season 2 filler only ended up more relevant with The Return. Like Ben Horne's Civil War thing where he imagines himself changing history only ends up becoming a comedic foreshadowing for Cooper literally (And tragically) changing history in The Return.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:57
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You guys are being silly. It's okay to skip the lovely parts of a show and still consider yourself a fan of it.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:47
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