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megane
Jun 20, 2008



Stroth posted:

bury the pieces out in the woods

I mean, she has a vegetable garden. In an out-of-the-way location. Despite being easily rich enough to not need one.

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Double Plus Undead
Dec 24, 2010

megane posted:

I mean, she has a vegetable garden. In an out-of-the-way location. Despite being easily rich enough to not need one.

I guess it'd be impractical to have a pig farm on the school roof.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I'm really glad we're romancing Haru, you guys.

I'm really glad Haru was a later addition and not stalking us around the city like Makoto.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

RareAcumen posted:

I'm really glad Haru was a later addition and not stalking us around the city like Makoto.

I wish they'd introduce her earlier and have her social link be like Sojiro's, gated by plot.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

RareAcumen posted:

I'm really glad Haru was a later addition and not stalking us around the city like Makoto.

Makoto stalking us was adorable.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Hunt11 posted:

Makoto stalking us was adorable.

This. Ya'll chose wrong.

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010
I voted for Makoto!

And if I didn't, I thought about voting for Makoto really hard!

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
haru's incredibly genteel nature is probably a product of her character being rushed, but i always liked to think she took her father's death fairly well because in her heart of hearts she wanted him to die

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Haru was terribly upset by her father's passing!

because she thought she'd have a chance to do the job herself

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hunt11 posted:

Makoto stalking us was adorable.

Yeah, because she's harmless, for the most part.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

RareAcumen posted:

Yeah, because she's harmless, for the most part.

I misread your point. If Haru was to start stalking us it would be to pick up tips on how to be a phantom thief so chances are it would be adorable as well. Also as a general note I do love how Haru is basically Leia but with less time being captured and more time trying her best to mangle anything stupid enough to get in her way.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I believe it was mentioned how the entire plot of Okumura's dungeon was a Star Wars pastiche (break into the enemy's space fortress to find the plans to their superweapon, plus evil dad), but Haru is sort of a combination of Luke and Leia. She's both the princess waiting to be rescued and the hero rescuing herself.

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
I like how Akechi’s plan was foiled all because he went “Pancakes? I LOVE PANCAKES!!!”

It almost makes up for how bumbleficked the game went to explain the twist.

Blue Labrador
Feb 17, 2011

My roommate noticed the pancakes thing right when it happened so while the characters playing dumb during Sae's dungeon felt terrible, the following twist felt loving amazing

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 155: 11/21: Evil Exposition Execrably Elucidates Earlier Events

Music: Desire



Surprise! You didn’t think that the only people who were going to get long-rear end conversations tonight were the Phantom Thieves, did you? It’s time for some good, old-fashioned evil monologuing!

...That sounds familiar…



Enter.



That’s the death certificate of the principal offender, correct? Is there a problem with it?
No. Nothing in particular. More importantly, you’ve done well with regard to the prosecutors.
The cause of death for the SIU director has been settled as a “stroke.”
I had him work quite substantially on forging evidence. His loss should be mourned.
It was thanks to his efforts that I could enter the Phantom Thief’s interrogation room too.
The SIU is in disarray with his death. I’ll take my time choosing a successor after the elections…
At any rate, I’m now praised as a hero, and I owe it all to the Phantom Thieves.
All possible hindrances are now gone. There’s no doubt that this election is mine. *evil chuckle*

I’ve written out the phrase “evil chuckle” too many times in this LP.



Discussion is swirling around potential nominees as the deadline for candidacy announcement nears. Candidates will announce on the 23rd of this month, while voting will be held on the 18th of next.
Elections, huh? Don’t matter to us. It’s not like we can vote in ‘em yet anyway.
Why don’t we resume our conversation?

You thought we were done? Ha!

Music: Suspicion



Well, the Phantom Thieves’re back together! We can finally take it to Akechi and the bastard backin’ him!
Have you figured out who’s behind all this?
Akechi accidentally let that slip after the murder. He said, “Shido-san.”
Shido… Feels like I’ve heard that somewhere.
He is unmistakably a man of power if he has such strong connections to the police.



...Who?

We Phantom Thieves are shockingly out of sync with current events.

I believe he’s a politician… Remember, Ryuji? You said his speech was too loud.



It’s certainly possible that Shido is the mastermind…
Huh…?
Do you have some kind of evidence?
Nothing material. However, there are various conditions which align with that possibility.




On top of that, he’ll most likely become the next prime minister if he wins this upcoming election.
No…
Did he set us up with that election in mind?
If he is behind all this, that would be in stark opposition to his honest, public image.

A politician? Lie!?!?

So his current position and popularity is just him benefiting from the mental collapses…
We’ll make him have a change of heart, no matter what it takes.
Mom…




I had a feeling he was wrapped up in all this. Just based on the connections I had from my previous job…

Music: Disquiet



GASP

I think the one who crushed Wakaba’s research and confiscated her materials was probably Shido. From the moment Wakaba died… I had a hunch he was involved. But there wasn’t anything I could do, so I chose to protect Futaba and went into hiding.



“For dramatic effect!”

You guys would’ve definitely gone after him if I had. He would’ve just killed all of you, no doubt. That’s what he usually does to people who get in his way.

Oh, that works too. Still, maybe give us a heads up about the murderer.



It was then that I accidentally stumbled upon government research regarding the psychotic breakdowns. So, I tracked down the whereabouts of that research data and met with the associated parties. Boss was one of those parties. I would never have imagined all of this was connected… The mental shutdowns, psychotic breakdowns, Shido, and even the Phantom Thieves’ actions…
Way back when, Shido kept saying he was going to be prime minister one day. Nobody believed him though…
What’s going to happen to this country if Shido becomes prime minister? What about the world…?
The issue is simpler than that. This is nothing more than yet another selfish adult trying to impose his will on the public.
We gotta expose that rotten bastard!
Yeah, we’ll do it like always!
Then let’s check the Nav!



Candidate found.




Where would the location be?
...What kind of things go through a politician’s head?
I always think of dirty money and shady actions.



His Palace must be somewhere that politicians frequent. Any ideas, Maaku-kun?



Candidate found.



We got a hit!
How arrogant must he be to see himself as the ruler of the Diet Building?




Hell yeah! Nobody against it?
Of course.
He will be a worthy opponent.
Let’s win this, together!
Time for revenge!
Then it’s unanimous!
All we gotta do now is figure our what he thinks that Diet Building place is.
So, that’s the app that allowed me to enter the Metaverse.
An old fart like me can’t wrap his head around all this stuff…
We’ll have to deal with this before election day, December 18th. That means we need it done by the 17th.
It’s best we hurry before they discover there’s no body in the morgue.
Should we start tomorrow then? We can meet at the Diet Building after school.



Ms. Kawakami said he went back home for “family reasons.”
That’s what I told the school.

A+ excuse there.

Don’t let ‘em find out you’re alive then, all right? This whole thing’d be for nothing!



This operation has another purpose outside of escaping Akechi’s clutches. Shido tried to place all the blame on the Phantom Thieves and deceive the public at the same time. He has ruined countless lives, and even made Goro Akechi, a student, assist him with assassinations. A mere change of heart is too lenient a sentence for such an abominable criminal.

All right, murder! Let’s do this!

We’ll be making use of the police statement that the leader of the Phantom Thieves committed suicide. Our leader who is presumed dead will come out of hiding to deliver a grand statement. He’ll say he has escaped prison, not committed suicide, and was in fact almost killed by a criminal.
Everyone’s gonna flip.




Bahahahahahahahaha.

That’s why you needed such a daring trick as getting captured and appearing to be killed. What frightening teenagers…
But the true battle has only just begun. We won the first round, but we must stay on our toes.
Yeah, this ain’t the time to be celebratin’.
These people tried to trap and kill us. There is no end to their inhuman, conniving nature. We will need to be prepared for whatever may come our way.

The Phantom Thieves nod.

Music: Desire



Remember way back when Morgana left the team and I called it “The Dumbest Plot Point In The Entire Game”? Well, buckle up, because it’s time for…



Why, it’s that wondrous time when our villains drop everything to have an evil conversation where they recap the entire game… evilly! Why are they doing this? No reason. Both of them already know everything they talk about here! God bless infodumps.

Back then, you earned the media’s attention as a young politician who could rise up against bureaucracy. Because of that, those who wanted to preemptively deal with problems tried to tie you up in scandal.



I recall that’s when you came to me. You promoted yourself, saying you had “special powers.” If it wasn’t for the research on cognition that I dabbled in, I would have thought you insane.
I made those troublesome opponents psychotic, and erased any trace of that scandal.



Who’d think that tampering with a person’s heart could trigger a psychotic lapse or mental shutdown. And when someone like that said he’d support me, I has suspected there’d be an ulterior motive.



I believed that your ideals needed to be achieved for the sake of the country’s future.
Well, my faith in you was precisely why I pulled the plug on that research. I only need you using that power. It’d be troublesome if someone else uncovered how it works.
...Wakaba Isshiki, was it? That researcher. She wouldn’t have had to die if she just complied.



Any suspicions should be snubbed out. Even the smallest doubt should be severed at the root. After all, we had an active Public Prosecutors Office director on our side until recently.

“Now that I think about it, might have been useful to not murder him. That could have saved us some grief down the road, whoops.”

Astounding, isn’t it? To think the director himself often forged evidence to secure his promotion. He was quite surprised when you confronted him about it. He didn’t know who leaked that information. Well, I got that out of his Shadow, so technically speaking, he did it himself.
This country’s affairs have become stagnant. The political world is filled with old men who only act to preserve their own vested interests.

I mean, he’s not… wrong? Maybe this won’t be so bad! Shido 2016! Woooooo!

The general public has forsaken such political affairs and don’t even bother. Only ruin awaits us.
I must agree.
There’s no need to be ruined along with such incompetent fools. I will lead this country to its revival. Those who get in the way must be eliminated at times—that’s the correct way to use the Metaverse.
Still, it would stand out if there were continuous deaths and scandals with your political rivals. Which is why I made them “suspects.” Prosecute the targets that I turned psychotic… and solve them as cases unrelated to you.




What a good boy.

Thanks to your efforts, my clean image remains untarnished, and I’ve monopolized public opinion. Once I gained public sentiment, collaborators from all sectors began approaching me on their own. The police were no exception. With their management in my pocket, keeping them in check was easy.
When the Phantom Thieves emerged, I thought things might become somewhat troublesome.
And they were just brats once we looked into it. All we needed to do was lay the blame on them…




After that, all I had to do was openly berate them; I’ve been gaining more supporters since. The current administration is dead with ongoing scandals… never mind the fact that they’re my doing. Even the government parties have begun splitting up… and they’re dissolving just as planned. *maniacal laugh*

We’re just throwing subtlety out the loving window, huh?



However, inauguration isn’t my goal. That’s when everything truly begins. I’ll make this county rich for the sake of its selfish and ignorant masses who can only rely on others.
In other words, you’re creating a powerful country that can compete with the world.
The public resonates with my ideals and follows me. And for that, some “sacrifices” can’t be avoided. That is my duty as the chosen one. Your assistance has been very influential in making my plans proceed smoothly. When I become prime minister, I’ll grant whatever wish you want.



Surely my story will be passed down as a hero who won against monsters that could control people’s hearts. I believe I’ll lay low and devote myself to my studies.
...I suppose with your age, you wouldn’t come up with debauched desires.

Oh yeah, teenagers, famed for their rationality and ability to resist temptation.



Ominous.

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



gently caress yeah, no school! :toot:

Don’t worry about it. This’ll be a breeze compared to what we’ve had to face so far. And we’ll have all the time to come up with the plans together! To be perfectly honest, I don’t really care what happens to Shido one way or the other. But when I consider the fact that he’s your enemy, I naturally think he’s my enemy as well. I’m going to stay with you until the very end.

Music: Beneath the Mask



Life’s gonna get real busy for you startin’ tomorrow, right? Get some rest.




The police report on your death isn’t gonna show up at your school. No need to worry. Seems Prosecutor Niijima worked out some kinda deal with the higher-ups or something. I mean, they haven’t even said anything to me even. As long as you stay quiet, you’ll be fine. And I guess if they reported your death now, they’d basically be saying you were a Phantom Thief. They can’t really go announcing what the Phantom Thieves are, so I’m sure they’ll avoid that.



The police are likely being careful about what they reveal as this is a rare, unusual incident. The move has been successful, and there has not been any major outcry as of yet.
It’s good for us that too much information hasn’t made it out. We probably have Niijima to thank.




Fine. For once, I won’t fight you on the “go to bed” thing, cat.



Even though Akechi was talking to the fake you at the time…

Now that you point it out like that, it really makes no sense whatsoever!



Akechi met the cognitive you in the Palace. I don’t know what he said to that version of you in there, but we should make use of this. And if nothing else, it shows our operation was a smashing success!




If you’ll remember the last update, Futaba had some more information to share with us regarding the plan. Well, here it is, even more info, except this is barely even relevant to understanding the plan and more about ironing out a few potential plot holes that are so insanely specific that even if you thought of them only an rear end in a top hat like me would actually point them out and hold them against the plot.

Well, remember how I put that wiretap app in Akechi’s phone? Basically that let me see GPS info for two phones: yours and his. Now what could I do with that info…? I’d be able to tell the precise moment Sae Niijima, who had your phone, ran into Akechi! That’s when I saw my chance and beep—sent the signal to activate the Metaverse Navigator. But there was the chance that they’d just pass each other without saying a single word. That’s why we needed you to tell Sae Niijima to show the phone to Akechi!
This plan still surprises me no matter how many times I hear it…
Still, I couldn’t just directly hack into the Metaverse Nav. It’s a mysterious app, after all. But you know how it has that bookmark function? All you have to do is push the button. Making the phone think he was pushing that button was totally doable. Mwehehehe… Pretty good, huh!?



Though there’s no doubt you were the most at risk. I mean, you actually got arrested. ...But it seems like all the drugs and stuff made you forget the details of the plan. Want me to explain how it all went down? It might take a bit.



Well, since the rest of us didn’t get captured, we had to act. We had to pretend we never wanted you to get arrested… Pretend the suicide news was a real shock… Basically we had to act like we didn’t know anything, 24/7. The enemy knows who we are, so we couldn’t let our guard down even once while you were gone. If they had people watching us and realized what our plan was, they would have killed you immediately.

Who’s to say they weren’t watching you guys today?

Anyway, this is just explaining why the group looked so surprised when they heard the news. The Curse of the Animated Cutscenes strikes again! This is also hilarious because it reveals that Ryuji actually totally hosed up and nearly got us killed by failing to pretend to be shocked.

...Wanna hear more?



Another tough part was figuring out how to get Sae Niijima and Akechi back from the Metaverse. In order to return to reality, you have to go back to the point where you came into the Metaverse. So, Sae and Akechi had to go through where the Nav activated, as in… the hall where they met. Akechi would just come back the same way after the assassination. The real issue was Sae Niijima. We needed to stop her for a moment before she headed back toward the interrogation room. But nothing can be sent to a phone inside the Palace. So… I had to program the messages in beforehand. In doing so, I made it seem like the messages were coming at that exact moment in time. That part was kinda last minute, so I had to pull an all-nighter trying to get it set up… ...I’m really on a roll here! Wanna hear some more?



Lemme see, another problematic thing was… Oh yeah! Tying Akechi up! That was really tough…



Uhhh, I obviously don’t mean the real Akechi. Even if we could do that, it would ruin our plan. The one we had to tie up was Sae Niijima’s cognitive Akechi. ...This part’s really complicated. I know you’re tired. You sure you wanna hear all of this now?



JUST GET TO IT

Well, we needed to lure Akechi into Sae Niijima’s Palace and have him kill the cognitive Maaku. But Akechi would have entered the Palace immediately after meeting Sae Niijima in the hallway, right? Because of that, there was a pretty decent chance he’d run into the cognitive Akechi. And if that happened, Akechi would’ve totally realized we had lured him into the Palace.



Nobody actually even thought of this possibility until the night before the assassination… Makoto realized in the middle of the night, then it was a huge mess trying to figure out what to do. In the end, we chose to sneak into the Metaverse while the plan was happening to tie up the cognition. Because you told Sae to show him the phone, we expected her to chat with him for at least a bit… So, we had a few minutes to strike after the cognitive Akechi showed up, but before the Nav activated. It was Operation: Tie Him Up! Though it wasn’t really much of an operation in the end…



Hmm, interesting. And how did you manage to pull this off while under surveillance and supposedly living normal lives to keep the heat off of us?

Thankfully, Sae Niijima didn’t know his true nature, so the one that appeared was an ordinary kid. It was pretty simply surrounding him, knocking him out, and tossing him on another floor. But man, watching Makoto’s skill was super amazing… I guess she does use knuckles as her weapon… Basically what I’m trying to say is, appreciate what everyone else did. All sorts of stuff happened. ...Phew. I just can’t help but rant when I’m talking about stuff that interests me. Sorry ‘bout that. Just focus on resting up. You don’t have to worry about anything else. And seriously… well done, Maaku.




gently caress no.

Whattt? That’s no fun.
Maaku is tired. You can tell him some other time, OK?



And we’re finally ready to start working against the mastermind behind all this. Join us next time for a new chapter in the saga of the Phantom Thieves!

Arist fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Aug 31, 2019

Kevos Setzer
Dec 1, 2004

I can transform, right?

Arist posted:

I believed that your ideals needed to be achieved for the sake of the country’s future.
Well, my faith in you was precisely why I pulled the plug on that research. I only need you using that power. It’d be troublesome if someone else uncovered how it works.
...Wakaba Isshiki, was it? That researcher. She wouldn’t have had to die if she just complied.



Any suspicions should be snubbed out. Even the smallest doubt should be severed at the root. After all, we had an active Public Prosecutors Office director on our side until recently.

Akechi's recording this whole conversation for some drat reason, isn't he?

quote:

Nobody actually even thought of this possibility until the night before the assassination… Makoto realized in the middle of the night, then it was a huge mess trying to figure out what to do.

See, this would have been a great scene to show, not tell, how Makoto is supposed to be the tactical specialist of the team.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
It also would have been great to see Makoto punching Akechi's lights out, but we didn't get that either.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Kevos Setzer posted:

Akechi's recording this whole conversation for some drat reason, isn't he?

I'll say it now because Arist's presentation all but stated it - no, he's not. The writers just shoved that in there under the assumption that the players were as dumb as they were.

It's easily the worst, most pointless scene in the game, even counting the Camp Kidnappers.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Kevos Setzer posted:

Akechi's recording this whole conversation for some drat reason, isn't he?


See, this would have been a great scene to show, not tell, how Makoto is supposed to be the tactical specialist of the team.

But we can’t follow anyone but the protagonist, and the villains I guess, or it might be confusing. :ohdear:

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Arist posted:

...Ryuji actually totally hosed up and nearly got us killed by failing to pretend to be shocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmpfbMhwmkw

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Man they could easily have shoved that villain plot dump for the inevitable bossbattles.

'As you know' is even dumber when both guys were there!

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Leraika posted:

It also would have been great to see Makoto punching Akechi's lights out, but we didn't get that either.
Well, we have to save something for the boss fight.

But yeah, that...was absolutely pointless for a plotdump. My guess is that with all the rewrites and content shuffling the back half of the game suffers from, somewhere in that period someone realized that they either gutted Shido's progression as a villain (slowly rising up the ranks in the Diet, showing his connections to Sojiro and Wakaba, etc.) or kept putting it off and couldn't find a good place to shove it all in the game until it was too late. Thus we get pointless crap like the SIU Director and this scene, where the staff try to salvage what they have and get the game out in some form after years of delays.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

AradoBalanga posted:

Well, we have to save something for the boss fight.

But yeah, that...was absolutely pointless for a plotdump. My guess is that with all the rewrites and content shuffling the back half of the game suffers from, somewhere in that period someone realized that they either gutted Shido's progression as a villain (slowly rising up the ranks in the Diet, showing his connections to Sojiro and Wakaba, etc.) or kept putting it off and couldn't find a good place to shove it all in the game until it was too late. Thus we get pointless crap like the SIU Director and this scene, where the staff try to salvage what they have and get the game out in some form after years of delays.

It's funny, because they have been telegraphing Shido as the big bad for the entire loving game in the most blatantly obvious ways possible. It isn't like with 3 or 4 where you figure it out eventually or learn about it in a big twist; it's really obvious that he's the bad guy the entire game, so this entire reveal seems pointless.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Grapplejack posted:

It's funny, because they have been telegraphing Shido as the big bad for the entire loving game in the most blatantly obvious ways possible. It isn't like with 3 or 4 where you figure it out eventually or learn about it in a big twist; it's really obvious that he's the bad guy the entire game, so this entire reveal seems pointless.
That's what also makes it hurt the mind. They seemingly wanted to show how much of a scumbag Shido actually is (instead of hint at and/or tell the player like it has done). But outside of the bits early on with the backstory of Maaku's arrest, the game pushes him so far into the background until very recently that it almost seems comical. And yet, they still manage to mess it up further by going so heavy handed with telling the player how bad Shido is without naming him directly. I get that Persona 5 had a troubled development cycle, but you'd think that "developing and fleshing out your game's main villain" would be a top priority. I kind of feel bad for Shido's voice actors; they have to sell this important villain to the player, yet they're given a script that is a jumbled mess and told to make it into diamonds. Which is especially interesting for his Japanese voice actor, who is none other than the legendary Shuichi Ikeda.


...please tell me that Shido doesn't paraphrase quotes from Char Aznable during his boss fight.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

AradoBalanga posted:

That's what also makes it hurt the mind. They seemingly wanted to show how much of a scumbag Shido actually is (instead of hint at and/or tell the player like it has done). But outside of the bits early on with the backstory of Maaku's arrest, the game pushes him so far into the background until very recently that it almost seems comical. And yet, they still manage to mess it up further by going so heavy handed with telling the player how bad Shido is without naming him directly. I get that Persona 5 had a troubled development cycle, but you'd think that "developing and fleshing out your game's main villain" would be a top priority. I kind of feel bad for Shido's voice actors; they have to sell this important villain to the player, yet they're given a script that is a jumbled mess and told to make it into diamonds. Which is especially interesting for his Japanese voice actor, who is none other than the legendary Shuichi Ikeda.


...please tell me that Shido doesn't paraphrase quotes from Char Aznable during his boss fight.

Fun fact Shido's English voice actor is also the current English voice actor for Char.

SoundwaveAU
Apr 17, 2018

I remember well the first time I saw this thread, Arist. I could hardly believe my eyes. I was a simple unregistered user, browsing through the Let's Play section of the Something Awful forums. I was looking for entertainment, when suddenly you appeared before me. It was like I was chosen by the gods. A Let's Play of Persona 5, developed by ATLUS for the Playstation 3 and the Playstation 4, released by Sony Interactive Entertainment? I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it for myself, yet there you were.

Compiling various screenshots and the dialogue from the game was a time-consuming task, but you were able to accomplish it. Your quest to entertain people brought you many loyal readers from all across the world. Eventually your success forced me to register an account when the paywall was reinstated. Much time has passed since you begun, but it would appear the end is drawing closer. Soon this Let's Play will be over and your name will be immortalised in the archive. *evil chuckle*

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


if akechi isn't goading shido into spilling the beans so he can record everything as some form of blackmail then that was absolutely the stupidest loving way to frame an infodump

they could have been explaining their plan to someone who discovered some shady business as a gloat, they could have been explaining their plan to a sycophant that they decided was worthy enough to join on as a henchman, they could have done so many other things to justify that conversation

i want to love this game but it does so much dumb poo poo that i can't bring myself to do much more than passively like it

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

MonsterEnvy posted:

Fun fact Shido's English voice actor is also the current English voice actor for Char.

I will admit, Keith Silverstein (said English voice actor) manages to really SELL Shido later.

Oh, and there's actually a little pun with Shido and Toranosuke- The character for the "Shi" in "Shido" is for "Lion", and the character for "Tora" in "Toranosuke" is for "Tiger", which adds some contrast between the two in the Japanese version.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Kevos Setzer posted:

Akechi's recording this whole conversation for some drat reason, isn't he?

Well, we haven't gotten any details on where Akechi came from or got his powers, so there's probably some kind of twist incoming.

It would be funny if the whole reason he convinced Shido to have an evil monologue was because he was taping it.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

The unfortunate thing about Shido is that the voice Keith Silverstein uses for him is literally the exact same as the voice he uses for Nazeem in Skyrim.

"Do you go to the cloud district very often? Oh what am I saying, of course you don't."

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."

Funky Valentine posted:

The unfortunate thing about Shido is that the voice Keith Silverstein uses for him is literally the exact same as the voice he uses for Nazeem in Skyrim.

"Do you go to the cloud district very often? Oh what am I saying, of course you don't."

Gotta hand it to the guy, he has a voice that you really wanna punch right through the screen. And he sells it so well.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Shido doesn't seem like a very smart guy.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Oxxidation posted:

I'll say it now because Arist's presentation all but stated it - no, he's not. The writers just shoved that in there under the assumption that the players were as dumb as they were.

It's easily the worst, most pointless scene in the game, even counting the Camp Kidnappers.

Akechi might not be recording the whole conversation, but Futaba's got a hot mic on his phone!

...still no?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Glazius posted:

Akechi might not be recording the whole conversation, but Futaba's got a hot mic on his phone!

...still no?

i mean, yes, but Futaba has a hot mic on everyone's phone and Wiretap Wednesdays haven't been a thing at her place since she hooked up with the Phantom Thieves

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

Night10194 posted:

Shido doesn't seem like a very smart guy.

Being an evil shitlord and being smart isn't exactly mutually inclusive. You can have both, but it's not really common, especially when they think-if not outright actually do-they have the good guys on the ropes.

Glazius posted:

Akechi might not be recording the whole conversation, but Futaba's got a hot mic on his phone!

...still no?

I think Futaba stopped recording Akechi's convo's already sadly.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Rule of Thumb: If a guy ever says *maniacal laugh*, he's probably not too bright.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Shido is the rapist guy Maaku beat up in the beginning right?

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Shido is the rapist guy Maaku beat up in the beginning right?

Yup.
We've run into him a couple other times already, but Joker didn't recognize him.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Shido is the rapist guy Maaku beat up in the beginning right?
I don't think the game has "officially" "confirmed" it yet, but yeah, it's him, and the game has gone out of its way to "hint" at this. Maaku has just been too stupid to realize it in-game, despite running into Shido in person on at least one occasion.

From way back on 5/5 (with Arist's commentary):

quote:





I WONDER IF IT COULD BE THE SAME PERSON

NAH

edit: beaten, but I have pictures!

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Alpha3KV
Mar 30, 2011

Quex Chest
Man that conversation between Shido and Akechi approached Neil Breen levels of on-the-nose.

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