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Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




there are ports controlled by israel in israel last time i checked

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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Real hurthling! posted:

there are ports controlled by israel in israel last time i checked

yes but those are for the intake of Goods and not Bads

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Real hurthling! posted:

there are ports controlled by israel in israel last time i checked

*five years into Limassol Gaza port project*

Likud: Hmm, y'know I'm still not comfortable enough with this. We're going to have to militarily occupy and colonize Greek Cyprus for absolute best safety. After all "Cypriots" are an invented people, these are Greeks and there is a Greece already for them to live in. :grin:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


*edit: already posted

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Main Paineframe posted:

shamelessly reposting this from the D&D thread because holy poo poo

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/statu...ingawful.com%2F

lol this is straight up hitler poo poo

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Providence shows no mercy to weak nations, but recognizes the right of existence-only of sound and strong nations...

This Jewish bolshevist annihilation of nations and its western European and American procurers can be met only in one way: by using every ounce of strength with the extreme fanaticism and stubborn steadfastness that merciful God gives to men in hard times for the defense of their own lives...

We have suffered so much that it only steels us to fanatical resolve to hate Our enemies a thousand times more and to regard them for what they are destroyers of an eternal culture and annihilators of humanity. Out of this hate a holy will is born to oppose these destroyers of our existence with all the strength that God has given us and to crush them in the end. During its 2,000-year history our people has survived so many terrible times that we have no doubt that we will also master our present plight.

We are allied with strong peoples, who in the same need are faced with the same enemies.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

lol this is straight up hitler poo poo

there’s been a long running sentiment among right wing Jews that the victims of the Holocaust were asking for it because they were weak and didn’t resist.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Providence shows no mercy to weak nations, but recognizes the right of existence-only of sound and strong nations...

This Jewish bolshevist annihilation of nations and its western European and American procurers can be met only in one way: by using every ounce of strength with the extreme fanaticism and stubborn steadfastness that merciful God gives to men in hard times for the defense of their own lives...

We have suffered so much that it only steels us to fanatical resolve to hate Our enemies a thousand times more and to regard them for what they are destroyers of an eternal culture and annihilators of humanity. Out of this hate a holy will is born to oppose these destroyers of our existence with all the strength that God has given us and to crush them in the end. During its 2,000-year history our people has survived so many terrible times that we have no doubt that we will also master our present plight.

We are allied with strong peoples, who in the same need are faced with the same enemies.

source you are quo- never mind

IWW Online Branch
Apr 20, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Main Paineframe posted:

shamelessly reposting this from the D&D thread because holy poo poo

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/statu...ingawful.com%2F

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1035516859150462980

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Oh hey the cuts to Palestnian aid will gently caress lots of Palestinians in Jordan.
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/contents/afp/2018/09/israel-palestinians-conflict-jordan-us-aid.html

Knowing that the Jordanian government is barley holding it together could this have reverberations that set off more chaos in Jordan?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ABSCBNNews/status/1036554928418775040

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
dti

https://twitter.com/972mag/status/1037247514775310336

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

ah the Liberal Israeli Supreme Court

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Don't worry guys, the eu has got this

https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1014865255585984512

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
How come we never start wars with countries that deserve it

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Grondoth posted:

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

easily apparently.


those cucks won't even do some meaningless gesture like reprimanding the israeli ambassador.

Bear Retrieval Unit has issued a correction as of 20:41 on Sep 5, 2018

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Grondoth posted:

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

https://twitter.com/yoskesh/status/1036925377879449600?s=19

looks like an israeli village to me

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Grondoth posted:

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

Very carefully

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Grondoth posted:

How come we never start wars with countries that deserve it

still recovering from the first civil war

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Grondoth posted:

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

the village is located in Area C of the West Bank, on land that is designated as Israeli state-owned land, and some of the more recent buildings were constructed without building permits from the Israeli authorities who often refuse to issue any building permits at all to Palestinian villages. on top of that, construction is prohibited there because the area is zoned for the construction of a road, which would be an offshoot from a major road nearby

given that the village has existed since before Israel seized the West Bank, you might be asking how it qualifies as "state land" and why Israeli authorities are planning to build a road through it. the short answer is that Israeli authorities were very racist then and are still very racist now, and like to find any excuse to declare Palestinian land to be "state land" so that the government can evict the existing residents and then give the land away to settlers

t0aine
Apr 7, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grondoth posted:

how can an israeli court rule on a Palestinian village

they're all palestinian villages though

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Main Paineframe posted:

the village is located in Area C of the West Bank, on land that is designated as Israeli state-owned land, and some of the more recent buildings were constructed without building permits from the Israeli authorities who often refuse to issue any building permits at all to Palestinian villages. on top of that, construction is prohibited there because the area is zoned for the construction of a road, which would be an offshoot from a major road nearby

given that the village has existed since before Israel seized the West Bank, you might be asking how it qualifies as "state land" and why Israeli authorities are planning to build a road through it. the short answer is that Israeli authorities were very racist then and are still very racist now, and like to find any excuse to declare Palestinian land to be "state land" so that the government can evict the existing residents and then give the land away to settlers

This is like reading all the poo poo we did to the native americans, it's so loving depressing, we didn't learn a goddamn thing.

They're even loving up the ecosystem to deprive Palestinians of poo poo too

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Grondoth posted:

This is like reading all the poo poo we did to the native americans, it's so loving depressing, we didn't learn a goddamn thing.

They're even loving up the ecosystem to deprive Palestinians of poo poo too

Even better, its just prototyping what we're going to do in 10-15 years to climate refugees and whomever else we need to subjugate to keep the good times rolling for the haves.

t0aine
Apr 7, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grondoth posted:

This is like reading all the poo poo we did to the native americans, it's so loving depressing, we didn't learn a goddamn thing.

They're even loving up the ecosystem to deprive Palestinians of poo poo too

they learned a lot though, to emulate the oppressors because most of them time nothing happens to them as a result

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Grondoth posted:

This is like reading all the poo poo we did to the native americans, it's so loving depressing, we didn't learn a goddamn thing.

They're even loving up the ecosystem to deprive Palestinians of poo poo too

oh yeah

i forgot to mention that they're going to relocate the residents to an actual garbage dump

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Main Paineframe posted:

possibly my favorite Israeli racism is the time a terrorist shot up a subway station, and a random black guy running from the attack was literally lynched by the crowd, and then no one went to jail for it even though they were caught on video literally beating him to death while he lay motionless and unconscious on the ground

:nms::nws:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHgtHdAbTc :nws::nms:
(warning: graphic video of black dude being brutally beaten and murdered)

Was that the one where one of the lynchers was interviewed afterwards and he basically responded with "If it had been the right guy, I would've been a hero. gently caress off with your sanctimonious bullshit," or was that a different lynch mob? I definitely remember it being a bit dti moment that never made it outside any I/P forum.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

most dti moments never make it outside i/p forums, or even onto them, because the media doesn't report them and it's really hard to track them all down from single digit follower twitter accounts

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Grondoth posted:

This is like reading all the poo poo we did to the native americans, it's so loving depressing, we didn't learn a goddamn thing.

They're even loving up the ecosystem to deprive Palestinians of poo poo too

we learned that you can keep dispossessing indigenous people over and over again, and in the end you get to keep all their stuff.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo


:d2a:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/theIMEU/status/1039245908574126087

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




talk about a slap in the face

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:


luv 2 b evil

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/09/israel-us-palestinians-benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-unrwa.html



Al Monitor posted:

The ombudsman of the Israel Defense Forces, Gen. (res.) Yitzhak Brick, is a hero of the Yom Kippur War launched by Egypt and Syria against Israel in 1973. Israel came close to losing that war due to a complacent military resting on its laurels after the stunning victory in the Six Day War six years earlier, and the resulting smugness of the political echelon that almost ended in disaster.

Brick, who is winding up a decade-long term, is tasked with handling soldiers’ complaints, not dealing with operational readiness and capability or military buildup. Nonetheless, in recent months he has turned from being a troubling nuisance into a real strategic problem. It began with a report he submitted in June presenting a gloomy assessment of the IDF’s readiness and fitness for war, followed by a long and detailed document on the same issue that he sent to senior defense officials. This month, he issued an additional document, no less detailed, that includes a demand for an external commission of inquiry headed by a retired Supreme Court justice to examine his claims.

Scarred forever by the strategic surprise of the Yom Kippur War, Brick has himself become a strategic surprise. Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot did not expect trouble from the aging general who fought in a war 45 years ago while Eizenkot was celebrating his bar mitzvah and has now become an alarmist as he prepares to retire.

“No wonder [Hezbollah Secretary General] Hassan Nasrallah said a few weeks ago that he had read the Israeli media and understood that the IDF was not ready for war and Israel was deterred by Hezbollah,” a senior military official told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. “Unfortunately, some people would rather spread unfounded fear and glorify Israel’s enemies instead of checking the numbers, the facts and the situation as it is.” Nasrallah’s comments fit with an episode described in “Fear: Trump in the White House,” the book just out by veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, in which he quotes one of US President Donald Trump’s advisers as warning that Israel’s security apparatus "would be inadequate” to defend the state against Hezbollah.

The message from Eizenkot’s office is calm and reassuring. In response to these and similar claims, the IDF issued excerpts from a detailed report it recently submitted to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman and the security cabinet on the IDF’s combat readiness and capabilities. “As the person responsible for the readiness of the army for war, I state that the IDF is prepared for any mission required of it, an army with intelligence and air superiority, ground capability and rich operational experience that is tested daily in every arena of war,” wrote Eizenkot.

In his latest report, which according to Haaretz runs to some 200 pages, Brick cites many officers and NCOs in the IDF’s Ground Forces Command, emergency supply depots and other vital sites as claiming that combat worthiness is in decline and morale at a low ebb and pointing to major gaps in training, equipment and maintenance.

Serving officers argue that Brick draws his conclusions from anonymous conversations with soldiers and NCOs and bases them mostly on the “feelings” they express, whereas Eizenkot puts his integrity on the line when he pronounced the military readier than ever for any scenario.

The ombudsman levels most of his criticism at the Ground Forces Command, the military arm that was largely neglected over the years in favor of the air force, intelligence, the navy, missile capability and anti-missile defense. “In recent years, the Ground Forces received huge budgets,” a senior military source told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. “Units have been reinforced, we have the biggest ammunition inventory ever, training was beefed up greatly and is at the most intense level since the year 2000. The strategic planning has been completed, the operational plans are ready, the military is training, ready, equipped and drilled.”

Indeed, the IDF concedes that the Ground Forces Command was treated like a stepchild for many years. The government’s decision to reduce the length of compulsory military service and the change in the service conditions of career army soldiers resulted in a severe shortage of human resources, which Brick also addresses. The army nonetheless argued that these decisions did not depend on the IDF’s senior command. “As far as the situation on the ground is concerned, the empirical figures, the reports and the performance, the situation is far better than it was and the IDF has a decisive advantage on all fronts over all its enemies,” the source added.

Al-Monitor has learned that two weeks ago, Liberman held a special meeting to discuss Brick’s reports. At the discussion, which focused on the IDF’s “fitness,” the chief of staff and other senior officials countered Brick’s claims. According to several sources exposed to the discussion, the minister was quite satisfied with what he heard. A senior Defense Ministry official told Al-Monitor that the minister trusts the IDF’s chief of staff and the responsibility he holds for the IDF’s fitness and readiness. According to the source, Brick’s reports may be tainted by “too many emotions” and his perceptions are still affected by the trauma of the 1973 war, coming up on its 45th anniversary.

“The chief of staff is not shirking his responsibility and he guarantees the IDF is at a high level of readiness,” a senior military source told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. “Anyone who thinks otherwise is welcome to prove their arguments according to objective criteria that bear scrutiny, not based on random hallway conversations,” he added.

Liberman appears to agree with this assessment as he prepares to pick a successor to Eizenkot, who retires at the end of the year, from among four candidates — Deputy Chief of Staff Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavi and Maj. Gen. Nitzan Alon, Eyal Zamir and Yair Golan. Liberman has said the job would go to the candidate who can prove that he aspires to engage with the enemy and score a decisive victory. Judging by the criteria he had laid out for picking Eizenkot’s successor, Liberman does not appear concerned about the IDF’s combat worthiness but rather by its willingness to engage and score a decisive victory over Israel’s enemies.



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/09/israel-us-palestinians-benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-unrwa.html#ixzz5RNcKNx00

Wonder how many they'd lose if they tried taking on Hizbellah this time?

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

i think the travel ban's been lifted just yesterday. i was supposed to see her speak at our marxist party's yearly festival here in belgium (other guests: ché's daughter and allende's grandson), but she had to skip it due to the ban. she sent a lovely video message, though.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

an internal investigation in the IDF says everything in the IDF is great!

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

I have been reading White City, Black City, which is about the creation of Tel Aviv from the destruction of the Palestinian city of Jaffa. It's very interesting to read about how the official Israeli account of the architectural and urban history of the area is a complete and total fabrication; how the precursor to the Israeli army surrounded the city on all sides and knew it posed no threat whatsoever, but decided to destroy it with indiscriminate bombings anyway, resulting in the death or evacuation of 94% of its residents; how they emptied every Palestinian home, looted every Palestinian business, and destroyed every historical document written in Arabic; how one of the destroyed buildings was converted into a museum praising the Irgun which still stands to this day. If you're wondering, Irgun was a fascist terrorist organizations who slaughtered hundreds of Palestinian men, women, and children. But you can go to the museum dedicated to them in the bombed ruins of a murdered Palestinian family's house and read about how actually, the Deir Yassin massacre wasn't a big deal at all, and maybe didn't even happen!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
:yeshaha:

https://twitter.com/TOIAlerts/status/1044926708304859136

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paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

da boy

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