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AFancyQuestionMark posted:What? Peres wasn't assassinated, he died of a stroke. You're confusing him with Rabin, the PM who actually was assassinated by a right-wing extremist radicalized by (among others) the Likud's rhetoric. Oops. You're right. And yeah, they cheered that.
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Kurnugia posted:Can anyone think of any allies the Palestinians might have once the 3rd intifada gets going? I mean, it looks to me like we could be heading to full on death camp stage of the genocide. Palestinians crumble, are slaughtered and erased from history while Israel, with unconditional backing from the west and in especially the US, is respected and has many allies. Of course this won't stop Israel from pretending to be the poor plucky little put-upon victim whenever convenient. As  said, the enemy is both weak and strong, and the corollary is that the fascist state is also strong and weak both.
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Aug 31, 2018 19:44
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Dunno about you guys but I'm digging this whole 'Bibi delivers a morally ambiguous comic book villain monologue on Twitter' thing.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Dunno about you guys but I'm digging this whole 'Bibi delivers a morally ambiguous comic book villain monologue on Twitter' thing. 
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I don't mean that the fascism is actually ambiguous, I mean it's just the type of monologue comic book writers give their villain when they want the reader to think it's not a black and white situation.
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Kurnugia posted:Can anyone think of any allies the Palestinians might have once the 3rd intifada gets going? I mean, it looks to me like we could be heading to full on death camp stage of the genocide. The question isn't whether the Palestinians have any allies, it's who has the leverage to influence Israel and the will to use it? No one is going to go to war with Israel, for instance - the IDF is a tough opponent even without the risk that the US might come to their aid.
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https://twitter.com/Issaamro/status/1035656029101608960
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Main Paineframe posted:The question isn't whether the Palestinians have any allies, it's who has the leverage to influence Israel and the will to use it? No one is going to go to war with Israel, for instance - the IDF is a tough opponent even without the risk that the US might come to their aid. How tough can a military that gets spooked by kites and small children with rocks be?
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Sep 1, 2018 01:20
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Things that Israel Defense Forces have to protect:
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In other news I came across an article in Ha'aretz about how snipers on the gaza "border" are suffering an increased amount of mental trauma which isn't being treated aptly by the army. Which is good because if you serve on the gaza fence you deserve to swallow a loving bullet.
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Ultramega posted:In other news I came across an article in Ha'aretz about how snipers on the gaza "border" are suffering an increased amount of mental trauma which isn't being treated aptly by the army. Which is good because if you serve on the gaza fence you deserve to swallow a loving bullet. Such anger, yes! Let the hate flow through you, young one.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:04
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Soon, your journey to conservatism will be complete 
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Ultramega posted:In other news I came across an article in Ha'aretz about how snipers on the gaza "border" are suffering an increased amount of mental trauma which isn't being treated aptly by the army. Which is good because if you serve on the gaza fence you deserve to swallow a loving bullet. The IDF barely treats its soldiers from physical harm, let alone mental.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:I'm willing to genocide an entire race just because they aren't Jewish.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:26
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israel fuckin sucks
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communism bitch posted:israel fuckin sucks Your contribution to the thread is greatly appreciated.
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communism bitch posted:israel fuckin sucks This gentleman used to be called oberleutnant. presented without comment on his obvious nazism
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Sep 1, 2018 21:39
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Someone, please add this thread to the places that have been invaded by the british. Perhaps this time they will finally manage to not leave the place a total mess.
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tooo late, we're kicking you out and building a national homeland for *spins globe* the maya
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Dommolus Magnus posted:Someone, please add this thread to the places that have been invaded by the british. They can't even seem to leave their own country in any reasonable order, so that sounds a bit unlikely. 
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Main Paineframe posted:The question isn't whether the Palestinians have any allies, it's who has the leverage to influence Israel and the will to use it? No one is going to go to war with Israel, for instance - the IDF is a tough opponent even without the risk that the US might come to their aid. With the US defunding UNRWA, there’s going to be a gap in funding for keeping millions of Palestinians from starvation and other ills. Arab states with the most refugees are unlikely to be able to afford to fill in the missing funds. Refugee families are going to be spurred into action. Israel’s about to create a problem for itself and its neighbours that hasn’t existed since the mid-1980s.
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Sep 5, 2018 08:44
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Miftan posted:The IDF barely treats its soldiers from physical harm, let alone mental. Any more information om this? In my head I have always portrayed them as very casualty-averse.
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Retarded Goatee posted:Any more information om this? In my head I have always portrayed them as very casualty-averse. Being casualty-averse isn't the same as taking good care of the wounded. Isn't it Israeli doctrine to kill their own soldiers to prevent them being captured by Palestinians?
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Cat Mattress posted:Being casualty-averse isn't the same as taking good care of the wounded. Isn't it Israeli doctrine to kill their own soldiers to prevent them being captured by Palestinians? It's not official policy anymore, I don't think, but it was/is definitely unofficial policy. Look up Hannibal Doctrine. I was wounded in the IDF and I know plenty of people who have been, not from combat but stress (physical and mental) and the IDF HATES paying out for the long term damage that infantry stuff causes and will fight you in court to prove pre existing conditions and junk like that. They're massive assholes even to their own pawns.
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Wow it's almost as if every single military in the world is staffed by the most cynical, transaction-oriented pieces of poo poo you can pour into a pair of BDUs who treat anyone below E3 as a piece of expendable poo poo.
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Ultramega posted:Wow it's almost as if every single military in the world is staffed by the most cynical, transaction-oriented pieces of poo poo you can pour into a pair of BDUs who treat anyone below E3 as a piece of expendable poo poo. You'd think there'd be some kind of distinction between a professional and a conscription-based army, but this is basically the enlisted experience in the US armed forces, as far as I can tell.
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Sep 5, 2018 16:48
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Also, much like the IDF the american military hasn't won a war since the 40's
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Sep 5, 2018 16:57
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Ultramega posted:Also, much like the IDF the american military hasn't won a war since the 40's I believe it's '67 for the IDF.
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VideoGameVet posted:I believe it's '67 for the IDF. It won '73, just with way more losses than it was expecting. It also arguably won '82, because it got the PLO expelled from Lebanon.
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The 1967 war has a lot of myths around it so depending on who's doing the telling it was either a pitched battle against the retrograde arab hordes bent on drowning little israel or just a complete slaughter so ymmv on that.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It won '73, just with way more losses than it was expecting. It also arguably won '82, because it got the PLO expelled from Lebanon. lmao
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Ultramega posted:Wow it's almost as if every single military in the world is staffed by the most cynical, transaction-oriented pieces of poo poo you can pour into a pair of BDUs who treat anyone below E3 as a piece of expendable poo poo. It's because the military's current purpose is largely just political posturing and propping up arms manufacturers, and thus there's a constant desire to do maximum show of force while minimizing any costs or impacts that aren't directly related to hardware purchases.
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Hong XiuQuan posted:With the US defunding UNRWA, there’s going to be a gap in funding for keeping millions of Palestinians from starvation and other ills. Arab states with the most refugees are unlikely to be able to afford to fill in the missing funds. Refugee families are going to be spurred into action. Israel’s about to create a problem for itself and its neighbours that hasn’t existed since the mid-1980s. Saudi Arabia will probably pick up the tab. Once MBS officially becomes king, and is serious about his pro-Israel stance, he might use Saudi funding of the Palestinians as leverage to force them to agree to a pro-Israel peace deal.
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Genuinely interested to hear why you think that because the only articles I've been able to find paint a very different picture of prevailing saudi attitudes toward the palestinians. quick edit: obviously not what regular people in the kingdom think, more what the people who actually shape and dictate their foreign policy.
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Ultramega posted:The 1967 war has a lot of myths around it so depending on who's doing the telling it was either a pitched battle against the retrograde arab hordes bent on drowning little israel or just a complete slaughter so ymmv on that. Once the IAF took out the opposition, it was a pretty quick over. The opportunity to resolve the Middle East conflict was squandered after that war. FWIW Jordan cooperated with Israel in the '73 war.
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Jordan loving sucks.
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Khan al Ahmar is composed of 5 sites clustered around Highway 1, 10 km East of the armistice line. It offers commanding views of the road from both sides at ranges between 50-500 meters from a patchwork of structures and hills. It's the only town behind the effective front line of Jewish settlements in the area.WeAreTheRomans posted:Well, at least the Palestinians had their day in court Hahahaha. No way Israel would let this exist. It's like a purpose-built ambush spot. And no, the irony of the inhabitants pre-dating (the modern paved version of) the highway is not lost on me.  
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Preen Dog posted:Khan al Ahmar is composed of 5 sites clustered around Highway 1, 10 km East of the armistice line. It offers commanding views of the road from both sides at ranges between 50-500 meters from a patchwork of structures and hills. It's the only town behind the effective front line of Jewish settlements in the area. What, are towns not allowed to be on hills near highways anymore?
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