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Scoss posted:My personal theory is basically that creativity is sort of inseparable from anything you do in art, so it doesn't make sense to think about creativity and process as separate concepts. The corollary there is that if you have problems with creativity, what you really have is a problem with process execution-- and it is very possible to refine and train those skills. To boil it down, I think people become more artistically creative in direct proportion to their draftsmanship skills and understanding of nature. Great post. I'm pretty much on the opposite end of the op. I almost never drew from reference; always from imagination, and even though I'm a competent cartoonist, I struggled with the fundamentals for years. I always thought it was strange that I did poorly in art classes, despite being a decent artist, but years later, I realized that the parts of art that were more grounded in reality were boring, and I just didn't like dealing with them. I'm glad I started making myself care about the fundamentals eventually (3D space was my biggest blind spot), but I wish I had just paid attention and cared in school.
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 22:03 |
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I already wrote a similar post to this last night but I must have closed the browser window by accidentScoss posted:Otherwise, you end up following shape contours like a trail from anatomical landmark to landmark, desperately hoping you don't get lost along the way. Yeah that describes me perfectly. I guess my ideal scenario would be "following shape contours from landmark to landmark and never getting lost along the way because of an intuitive sense of balance and harmony of the body" but maybe the only realistic way to get there is through intensive anatomy and box figures and other technical practice. Not sure I have the patience for it though and in any case: smallmouth posted:I love your way of drawing--develop that. There's more than enough figure artists that draw "correctly" or "academically," and not nearly enough that draw emotionally. I feel this too. Do I actually like looking at portraits by that dude Prokopenko? Not really. I don't think they are totally mutually exclusive but I am worried that I will lose some of the poetry and joy that makes me really love drawing the human body if I delve too deep into technical construction. Maybe I can dip my toes into it, get some value from those exercises, and then not worry too much about it. I dunno.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 00:49 |
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d3c0y2 posted:When you where drawing this piece, did you keep an idea of where this reflected light was coming from? Or do you keep it more as an idea of ambient reflected light and just go with what feels right? For that particular drawing I just winged the reflected light, If I was drawing a subject in an environment I would take more care to make sure that reflected light is actually being reflected off of something (the ground, nearby objects or secondary light sources). Since I basically just drew a head floating in an empty void I just chose to have the bounce light come from the opposite direction of my main light source. This isn't always correct, just an easy shorthand to rendering something that, at first glance, has volume. Radio du Cambodge posted:I feel this too. Do I actually like looking at portraits by that dude Prokopenko? Not really. I don't think they are totally mutually exclusive but I am worried that I will lose some of the poetry and joy that makes me really love drawing the human body if I delve too deep into technical construction. Maybe I can dip my toes into it, get some value from those exercises, and then not worry too much about it. I dunno. This is a good outlook to have, especially if you are primarily drawing for fun or as a form of self-expression, and applies (I assume) to most of the people posting in this thread, myself included. It is possible to be an excellent artist, illustrator or designer without having a master's grasp of human anatomy. One should have decent knowledge of the fundamentals and be able to effectively put them into practice when the need arises, but life is too short to spend it all drawing what you don't want to draw.
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Far be it from me to tell anyone how to enjoy their art. If you are just in it for personal satisfaction and are happy with what you're doing, then rock on. For anyone who feels stuck, or like they're spinning their wheels while they have aspirations to be better, I think traditional academic fundamentals are probably the best path out of the dark woods. It's up to everyone to decide for themselves if the juice is worth the squeeze. Personally, I am okay with with a student-for-life mindset about art. I know I will be learning anatomy forever, because ultimately I love illustration and drawing characters, and it's important to me to be able to convey any idea in a believable way. I think the figure is just a very rich vein to mine in general when it comes to learning-- if you can master drawing something as difficult as the human figure, you will be well prepared to take on basically any subject. Anyway, I did some more short studies. Mixed success. More stiff than the ref, will have to keep that in mind in the future. Been a while since I painted on a full figure and I wanted to stretch my rendering legs a bit after so much drawing, so I puttered around one of the refs for a few hours. Difficult perspective on the head, so the face is a bit weird but I was mostly invested in the torso, oh well. Scoss fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Aug 30, 2018 |
# ? Aug 30, 2018 05:26 |
Looking good, loving those defined muscles! How long are you spending on those quick studies?
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 08:08 |
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.............been drawing.... dogs n' cats n' stuff.................
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 22:30 |
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Hehey, getting nice linework all up in this .. female dog? No but seriously, I know I'm linework-biased but even those simple hatch-shadows do bring out so much more 3dness to the doggies. I'm working on some christmas cards. It's never too early, but it IS hard to get in the mood.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 12:27 |
Finally finished this arsehole Learnt a lot about texturing with pen. Hand hurts.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 15:57 |
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lofi posted:Looking good, loving those defined muscles! How long are you spending on those quick studies? Thanks! Probably about 15-25 minutes per figure there. Another enviro study Wanted to doodle something from imagination since I've been doing a lot of ref study
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 20:18 |
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Sharpest Crayon posted:Hehey, getting nice linework all up in this .. female dog? Thanks! I've been feeling more confident about my lineart recently so I appreciate hearing that! Also it's some dog from Fate Go I think? My friend told me to draw it. Anyway, here is more dog.
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 05:14 |
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my version of practicing fundamentals is actually doing sketches this one is based entirely on a real location, however it's done from memory and looks very different
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 09:23 |
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insomnia garbage
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 18:14 |
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Frown Town posted:insomnia garbage that pic above me is beautiful.
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# ? Sep 2, 2018 00:00 |
Golden lab at open mic night
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# ? Sep 2, 2018 00:41 |
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# ? Sep 2, 2018 12:15 |
Copying other people's styles is hard.
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# ? Sep 2, 2018 20:28 |
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Him chonk.
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# ? Sep 2, 2018 23:35 |
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for the guy who asked earlier this is a work in progress of about 4 hours of work based on this sketch, but i'm specifically putting a lot of detail into it
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# ? Sep 3, 2018 00:20 |
Not a guy, but ta!Sharpest Crayon posted:Him chonk. Omg, that is the exact shape of a dog I saw yesterday. I was going to sketch him, but didn't think I could make it look remotely believable. Poor goondog.
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# ? Sep 3, 2018 00:27 |
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Sketchin in natural history museums is great
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# ? Sep 3, 2018 03:20 |
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hello it is time of dog but also the time for cat is now
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# ? Sep 3, 2018 04:31 |
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I'm a simple creature and I like Spock so I doodled him
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# ? Sep 3, 2018 04:39 |
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https://twitter.com/rainbowfission/status/1036528029315616768 https://twitter.com/rainbowfission/status/1036706110143713281
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Pick posted:I'm a simple creature and I like Spock so I doodled him How do you get this effect? I'm not even sure the word i am looking for to describe it, but I love how the colours seem almost iridescent.
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d3c0y2 posted:How do you get this effect? I'm not even sure the word i am looking for to describe it, but I love how the colours seem almost iridescent. Sketch is in blue, then one layer set to Linear Burn with colors on it, and another set to Add (Glow) with different colors on it. Done in ClipStudio. Another way you can try it with a completely different effect is to lay down some general gradients and then use brushes with really busted pressure settings on a Soft Light layer above that, and then go all mad randy with a Vivid Light layer above that. My advice is, at least for practice every once in a while, work at stupidly high color saturation, and use a bunch of colors, an obnoxious excess. I think most of us are trained not to, probably due to high color saturation having been out of vogue from like 2004-2017. Pick fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Sharpest Crayon posted:Him chonk. o i love that chonky boi doing some procreate stuff, love the video replay feature (click second image and it should open up a link that works? mp4 file) life drawing, about.. 20 minutes, i was a little tipsy/high. I love this figure drawing group so much. Frown Town fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 4, 2018 |
# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:56 |
That is crazy-cool - more please! I had a horrible life-drawing session, the woman next to me was super nervous, it was her first time arting in like 15 years, so cool that she was doing it, but she kept going on and on, and it put me on edge. Took forever to relax into it, only got two pics worth a drat. I guess one of those days where I have to remember that me from a decade ago would have murdered to draw pics like that.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:02 |
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My doodling sort of died down a few months ago, I guess I started taking it slightly too seriously and obsessing about learning things the right way and doing boring exercises, which is exactly the the kind of thing that I had set out to avoid in this relaxing little side hobby. Slowly getting the hang of the basics again after warming up for a couple of days, and all the same old errors too I suppose...
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:34 |
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https://twitter.com/rainbowfission/status/1037416146021089282 https://twitter.com/rainbowfission/status/1037429449183125508
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 21:02 |
Old dudes are really easy to draw, their faces are all hosed up anyway! Much better than yesterday's efforts, I think the ability to rub lines out just confuses my poor brain. lofi fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 21:32 |
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Nosecat, King of the fishers!
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 23:25 |
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tigertaur and fox friend 50 min sketch, who needs hands?
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# ? Sep 6, 2018 20:36 |
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First pull of my first landscape block print. Need to push the highlights and do something with the clouds, but I’m generally happy with it.
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# ? Sep 6, 2018 23:44 |
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Chonky Boi stands like people!
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# ? Sep 7, 2018 05:52 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2018 13:48 |
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i dig it, oils? some prismacolor/copic/microns on top of a figure drawing sketch rip charlie, my ghost cat.
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