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that's gonna be great when the room is both on fire and underwater at the same time
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It sucks but Brown has little if anything to lose. He gets to stick it to De Leon and and bang his fiscal responsibility drum, and none of it affects him because he's termed out and his political career is probably close to wrapping up given he's got way too much baggage to make a successful presidential bid. Also the legislature can presumably just revive the bill once Brown is gone and Newsom will sign it in a heartbeat.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:07
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Yeah this seems like it'd be great for Newsom. It's something he could go on about for the campaign to draw a distinction between him and Cox that's definitely unfavorable to Cox, and then once he's in office it's an easy win that makes him look good to progressives.
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Sydin posted:It sucks but Brown has little if anything to lose. He gets to stick it to De Leon and and bang his fiscal responsibility drum, and none of it affects him because he's termed out and his political career is probably close to wrapping up given he's got way too much baggage to make a successful presidential bid. Also the legislature can presumably just revive the bill once Brown is gone and Newsom will sign it in a heartbeat. It's too bad that we consider our politicians to be the kind of person who would do that, instead of just signing the bill because it's good for the state and it's the right thing to do. e: Trabisnikof posted:How does Brown not understand that if he vetos this bill it will destroy his entire legacy. Nothing he has done will matter if he vetos this bill. This is an exaggeration. As the article says: quote:The state simply would not be in a position to make a 100 percent commitment if Governor Brown had not risked scorn to start California down this path so many decades ago, when Mr. de León was still in elementary school. This won't destroy Brown's legacy. It'll barely be a blip in the history books if he vetos it. No one will care 5-10 years from now. Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 18:21
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I mean, yeah, I wish politicians made decisions based on what's right too. I'd also like a unicorn, and maybe universal prosperity and peace if it's not too much to ask. Hmm, maybe the noble politicians thing would take care of world peace on its own. Can I change my third wish, or are there no takebacksies?
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Sep 7, 2018 18:31
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Ah the old "I've given up holding people to moral standards, therefore I'm more adult and savvy than you" gambit. Let's see how it plays out.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:32
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Sydin posted:I mean, yeah, I wish politicians made decisions based on what's right too. I'd also like a unicorn, and maybe universal prosperity and peace if it's not too much to ask. Hmm, maybe the noble politicians thing would take care of world peace on its own. Can I change my third wish, or are there no takebacksies? You could have just condensed this post down to "life isn't fair" and saved us all some time.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:41
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You're posting on SA, I'm fairly confident any time I've wasted on your part wasn't particularly valuable.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:13
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Sydin posted:You're posting on SA, I'm fairly confident any time I've wasted on your part wasn't particularly valuable. There have been 6791 posts made by Cup Runneth Over, an average of 2.05 posts per day, since registering on Aug 7, 2009. There have been 17479 posts made by Sydin, an average of 6.98 posts per day, since registering on Oct 28, 2011. Whoops
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Sep 7, 2018 19:51
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I mean, yeah, I wish this boot would stop stamping on my face too. I'd also like a unicorn, and maybe universal prosperity and peace if it's not too much to ask.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:52
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*me, on the Aztec altar* sure I wish they weren't cutting out my heart. I also wish that Huitzilopochtli would send me fabulous wealth and strike down the conquistador invaders, if it's not too much to ask.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:55
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https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/881161169469403137
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Sydin posted:I mean, yeah, I wish politicians made decisions based on what's right too. I'd also like a unicorn, and maybe universal prosperity and peace if it's not too much to ask. Hmm, maybe the noble politicians thing would take care of world peace on its own. Can I change my third wish, or are there no takebacksies? It takes less than 2 minutes to call the governor’s office at 916-445-2841. Just say you support Senate Bill 100 and give your zip code. It probably would have taken just as much time as it took you to read this thread and to write that snarky post.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:20
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Called browns office, the rep was like "well he has thousands of bills coming to his desk and he's got the power to veto any of them" - weird posture but whatever they got my infoSydin posted:I mean, yeah, I wish politicians made decisions based on what's right too. I'd also like a unicorn, and maybe universal prosperity and peace if it's not too much to ask. Hmm, maybe the noble politicians thing would take care of world peace on its own. Can I change my third wish, or are there no takebacksies? 
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Called browns office, the rep was like "well he has thousands of bills coming to his desk and he's got the power to veto any of them" - weird posture but whatever they got my info how could you possibly expect the governor's office to have an opinion on every single bill!?!? there are so many of them!!
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Whoops Hey now I'm under no illusions that my time is valuable either, we're all in this together.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:41
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Thanks for posting this so I don't have to.
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I do love getting dogpiled by you all over expressing cynicism towards politicians when you all are going to go out and vote for quintessential politician Gavin Newsom just like I am because he's the guy with a D next to his name.  I'm disappointed in Brown, but I'm not surprised. He's done some great things for the state, but he's also done some really lovely things, like refuse to clamp down on agribusiness's water usage in any meaningful fashion during one of the worst drought in recent memory because he's buddy-buddy with a bunch of big agribusiness folks and he didn't want to stomp on his friends toes even if it meant the rest of the state crumbling into dust. He's no stranger to wielding his power for his own benefit.
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Sep 7, 2018 22:33
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Sydin posted:you all are going to go out and vote for quintessential politician Gavin Newsom just like I am because he's the guy with a D next to his name. we are?
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Sep 7, 2018 22:44
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Skyscraper posted:we are? The options are ['replicant' (Newsom), 'what if Mike Pence but with power' (Cox), 'no vote' (duh)]. That's how a system where the general is always a runoff of the primary works. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even count protest votes, except as maybe 'spoiled'.
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dont be mean to me posted:The options are ['replicant' (Newsom), 'what if Mike Pence but with power' (Cox), 'no vote' (duh)]. Those are the options, yes, doesn't mean I'm going to go out and vote for Newsom.
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Well if leaving the Newsom box blank makes you feel better go ahead I guess, but please at least do turn out and vote for De Leon. TIA.dont be mean to me posted:The options are ['replicant' (Newsom), 'what if Mike Pence but with power' (Cox), 'no vote' (duh)]. You'd think if Maine could implement ranked-choice voting, supposed liberal bastion California could, too. Of course that would threaten the core Democratic establishment that has planted its base of power here so it's a political non starter (and another thing Brown vetoed). Maybe a proposition someday.
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Snipee posted:It takes less than 2 minutes to call the governor’s office at 916-445-2841. Just say you support Senate Bill 100 and give your zip code. It probably would have taken just as much time as it took you to read this thread and to write that snarky post. Thanks! Gave them a call and it was painless.
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Sydin posted:I'm disappointed in Brown, but I'm not surprised. He hasn't even done anything yet? I'm voting for Newsom. I mean, c'mon, he's not THAT bad, he just smells like industrial lubricant. Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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Sep 8, 2018 11:31
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Sydin posted:Well if leaving the Newsom box blank makes you feel better go ahead I guess, but please at least do turn out and vote for De Leon. TIA. Did you call the number posted?
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Sep 8, 2018 12:01
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Is Brown gonna sign SB100 or what.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:He hasn't even done anything yet? You barely notice the smell with the Nexus 5 model.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:You barely notice the smell with the Nexus 5 model. The 600 series had rubber skin, we spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human — sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot.
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Brown signed the bills to block Trump's proposed offshore drilling project.Kobayashi posted:Did you call the number posted? I did. I also used the send an email form on his website since SB100 was available in the hilariously long drop down of topics. Worst case scenario I get a reply I can put on my wall of shame next to Feinstein's "It's not my fault I co-sponsored this because see I didn't actually read the full context of the bill and had no idea it was so bad" reply to my "Why are you co-sponsoring PIPA" letter.
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Sep 8, 2018 20:13
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Gov. Brown signed SB100, whew!
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Cup Runneth Over posted:He hasn't even done anything yet? Told ya so
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don't worry, half of D&D will still call him a sellout and a fake the next time, and the next time
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predicto posted:don't worry, half of D&D will still call him a sellout and a fake the next time, and the next time
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predicto posted:don't worry, half of D&D will still call him a sellout and a fake the next time, and the next time He's a mixed bag, not a fake but Boomer and older left are not very good as a rule. When it's all said and done I'm very ok with Brown...as the Governor of Arkansas. But for deep blue CA? Eh....
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predicto posted:don't worry, half of D&D will still call him a sellout and a fake the next time, and the next time He is all of these things tho
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Sep 10, 2018 20:26
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you say jerry brown is a disappointment, but here we see he did the bare minimum a democrat or californian politician would be expected to do on this one issue. checkmate, libs
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predicto posted:don't worry, half of D&D will still call him a sellout and a fake the next time, and the next time Don't think there are many/any next times left between here and the end of his term.
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Sep 10, 2018 21:06
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Now sign the (admittedly far less important than landmark environmental targets, but still cool and good) Net Neutrality bill please.
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Reading that article, this bill sounds hilariously weak and has target dates so far out in the future as to make it essentially meaningless.
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