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Such a good episode. I love how they peeled back and deconstructed the whole arching game. Showcased how the monarch and rusty are actually good at the whole charade. “Were we this bad when we first started?” was choice. Was St. Cloud sanctioned when he attacked the trailer with Truckasaurus? If he was it kind of dilutes the whole thing even if Doc said ‘New York’ Arch. And it doesn’t really explain it by the guild being under new leadership since he was familiar with the warning scroll. But honestly, I’ll look past it just for how good the episode was. Billy calling St. cloud an rear end in a top hat while laughing and the whole hallucinating part is perfect.
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"if Michael Kors worked at the Wonka factory" is such a good loving burn
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Sep 8, 2018 19:11
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Milo and POTUS posted:Imagine getting donuts when you're in the one of the bagel capitals of the world. New York bagels, like their pizza, is overblown trash you could find better versions of on almost any streetcorner on the West coast Something in the tap water makes for chewy unpleasant dough
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Sep 8, 2018 19:20
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TK-42-1 posted:Such a good episode. I love how they peeled back and deconstructed the whole arching game. Showcased how the monarch and rusty are actually good at the whole charade. “Were we this bad when we first started?” was choice. Was St. Cloud sanctioned when he attacked the trailer with Truckasaurus? If he was it kind of dilutes the whole thing even if Doc said ‘New York’ Arch. And it doesn’t really explain it by the guild being under new leadership since he was familiar with the warning scroll. But honestly, I’ll look past it just for how good the episode was. Billy calling St. cloud an rear end in a top hat while laughing and the whole hallucinating part is perfect. I was also thinking about the truckasaurus arch. It doesn't really jive all that much with this episode. How was St. Cloud able to be successfully arch Billy but now he's unable to do anything? Also, why didn't Pete and Billy use the costumes they already had when being arched by St. Cloud before?
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Sep 8, 2018 19:24
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Cojawfee posted:I was also thinking about the truckasaurus arch. It doesn't really jive all that much with this episode. How was St. Cloud able to be successfully arch Billy but now he's unable to do anything? Also, why didn't Pete and Billy use the costumes they already had when being arched by St. Cloud before? Maybe when he bought Conjectural Technologies they went with it? And to be fair he was really lame beforehand. I don’t think he’s unable to do anything, but he’s unable to arch in a manner that’s anything close to acceptable? The Monarch wants him to be better because it’ll piss off Doc and by selling St. Cloud poo poo he’ll get his rank back up where he wants it. Driving up Truckasaurus and having Pei steak the please please me ball isn’t exactly menacing. The more I think about it the less out of place it is, but it’s still weird. I guess in NYC they really do have to step their game up.
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Sep 8, 2018 19:39
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TK-42-1 posted:“Were we this bad when we first started?” was choice. I desperately wanted another mustaches-style flashback like in Powerless in the Face of Death. But man, what a great goddamn episode.
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Sep 8, 2018 19:45
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GuyonthecoucH posted:The Venture Brothers: Scams, shams, and OH DAMNS! Seconding this. Watch and Ward are always great, especially when they're doing the "tour through a hallway of doors" routine like they did with Sheila back in S3.
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Sep 8, 2018 20:09
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Dr. Z is the best but I'm worried he's gonna get worn out, he's been in every episode so far and it would be nice to see some of the other council members. l mean if anyone is gonna do a good cop/bad cop routine it should've been Radical Left.
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Sep 8, 2018 21:02
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Dr. Z is the best but I'm worried he's gonna get worn out, he's been in every episode so far and it would be nice to see some of the other council members. l mean if anyone is gonna do a good cop/bad cop routine it should've been Radical Left. speaking of the council members, I wonder if red mantle and dragoon are going to die for old people reasons. it's around the time that buddy holly's generation is starting to keel over anyways
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Sep 8, 2018 21:09
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I hope I wasn't the only one who was singing the makeover song from Clone High during the shopping dream sequence.
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Mr. Lobe posted:speaking of the council members, I wonder if red mantle and dragoon are going to die for old people reasons. it's around the time that buddy holly's generation is starting to keel over anyways Red Mantle is a literal sorcerer, though, and that's not even bringing up all the other probable life extension techniques the guild has.
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Mr. Lobe posted:speaking of the council members, I wonder if red mantle and dragoon are going to die for old people reasons. it's around the time that buddy holly's generation is starting to keel over anyways I've been wondering about this, too. They're already dropping little hints that Dragoon may be in the early stages of dementia. At some point, one of those heads is going to die before the other one. How will they deal with that? Cut one head off? Would it be Mantle's head? Wouldn't that be funny--Dragoon's head on Mantle's body? Or do they leave it there and it skeletonizes, so that whichever one survives has this skeleton head on the other side of his shoulder? And in a show like this that drips, just drips, with pop culture references, how has nobody called them Zaphod yet? It'd be great, especially if someone keeps doing it, and finally at the end of the episode, one of them asks, "who is this blasted 'Zaphod Beeblebrox?'" after unintentionally making a bunch of HHGTTG references throughout the episode. tarlibone fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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Sep 8, 2018 21:19
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Master Twig posted:I hope I wasn't the only one who was singing the makeover song from Clone High during the shopping dream sequence. No, but my girlfriend laughed really hard at the end when Dr. Z was in a skirt and I looked at her and she just says 'Clueless' and it all clicked
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Sep 8, 2018 21:25
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Cojawfee posted:S-464 had his brain rerouted so he doesn't have normal reactions to things. He doesn't seem phased by what Sheila is describing until she gets to the rats. I assume he's afraid of rats. Actually, that too -- I expected S464 not to have any response to the intimidation at all. But I just thought the whole interrogation scene was off somehow. Even the cutaway makeover with Dr. Z seemed pretty by-the-numbers.
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Sep 8, 2018 21:50
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Cojawfee posted:I find it odd that Sheila was freaking out at addressing a group with male descriptors and then she says "bad guys" in this episode. If she was just doing that to make sure the language of the treaty was gender neutral, they should have made it more clear. This just makes her inconsistent. That was during a negotiation with the enemy where you want to press every advantage possible. The Guild know full well that they're costumed criminals.
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Sep 8, 2018 21:59
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TK-42-1 posted:No, but my girlfriend laughed really hard at the end when Dr. Z was in a skirt and I looked at her and she just says 'Clueless' and it all clicked THANK you! Those outfits looked so familiar but I just couldn't place it. Now I can sleep at night. tarlibone posted:
I love all the formalized villain/protagonist dialogue. I cracked up when when, in the last episode, Snoopy politely announced "Well, gentlemen, I will be your undoing" to Red Mantle and Dragoon. A good set of episodes so far, I give them a thumbs up. 
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Sep 8, 2018 22:36
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Oh, duh, somebody just pointed out elsewhere that Rusty being a clone also explains why he doesn't remember knowing the Monarch as a child.
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Sep 8, 2018 22:59
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420 Gank Mid posted:Something in the tap water makes for chewy unpleasant dough That's how they're supposed to be. You like bad bagels.
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Sep 8, 2018 23:00
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Sash! posted:That's how they're supposed to be. You like bad bagels. Fluffy not Chewy take your Stockholm syndrome for awful baked goods outta here
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Sep 8, 2018 23:01
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The tub torture was pretty much a direct reference to Scaphism but in a tub.
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Sep 9, 2018 00:14
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drat the shirts this time are really soft. They also run a little bigger than I expected but I'm a bit closer to 21 than 24 these days so it'll work out.
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Sep 9, 2018 01:42
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tarlibone posted:It'd be great, especially if someone keeps doing it, and finally at the end of the episode, one of them asks, "who is this blasted 'Zaphod Beeblebrox?'" after unintentionally making a bunch of HHGTTG references throughout the episode. Conversely, that wouldn't be great
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Sep 9, 2018 01:52
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Rand Brittain posted:Oh, duh, somebody just pointed out elsewhere that Rusty being a clone also explains why he doesn't remember knowing the Monarch as a child.  but the monarch doesn’t remember anything either. Is he also a clone?
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Sep 9, 2018 08:00
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Rusty completely forgot about the Hadji equivalent too. And it was implied that Rusty mixes up his actual memories with The Rusty Venture Show.
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Sep 9, 2018 08:02
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Rusty completely forgot about the Hadji equivalent too. And it was implied that Rusty mixes up his actual memories with The Rusty Venture Show. maybe Jonas hadn't finished the learning bed programming yet so he just put in reruns of the cartoon instead to pad out the runtime
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420 Gank Mid posted:maybe Jonas hadn't finished the learning bed programming yet so he just put in reruns of the cartoon instead to pad out the runtime That would explain a lot.
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420 Gank Mid posted:maybe Jonas hadn't finished the learning bed programming yet so he just put in reruns of the cartoon instead to pad out the runtime Now my headcanon until stated otherwise
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Sep 9, 2018 12:27
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The best thing about Rusty's line (you know the one) is that it's also him admitting he likes the whole setup on some level.
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Sep 9, 2018 12:38
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Or that he at least takes some pride in doing things right. Starting to see how SPHINX would have been direct competition with the Guild back in their heyday, since the Guild is quite happy to train and equip supervillains from scratch, even having standard-issue, easy-to-use equipment adjusted for each level of aggression. I'm guessing, much like COBRA, SPHINX had quite a colourful collection of individualistic supervillains along with their henchman (and the Guild itself does have the Wasps and Strangers. IIRC, the Wasps are the mooks and the Strangers are the elites) but was more of a coherent organisation that maintained an overall theme. (and the whole brain chip thing) Rose's house must have safety glass, just as well for St Cloud. And also that Rose settled for forcibly giving him a makeover. Level 1 aggression is basically a glorified prank war.
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Aren't Guild Wasps just their helicopters? I was under the impression triple threat punched McCloud and Pei had to put makeup on to cover his black eyes.
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Lord Frisk posted:Aren't Guild Wasps just their helicopters? Guild Wasps are the choppers. The elites were Blackouts, or Blackout Teams. Something like that. And yeah Rose kicked his rear end and they covered up the bruises.
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You know, that's two episodes on a row where DMTM has acted a little out of character in an emotional way. With both the protagonists and antagonists getting used to being regarded as competent-ish, at least compared to season 1, narratively it might be time for a new wrinkle in the form of a baby...
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I can't see that happening, frankly. Sheila's desire to not have kids was established in, what, the very first episode of the series? That time when the Monarch thought that the Venture Brothers were looking for a real parental figure and almost adopted them? Speaking of, I think I know why Kimberly didn't know who Sheila was : unlike her colleagues on the Council, she never had a notable solo career as a super-villain. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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Sep 9, 2018 17:28
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Plus Doc and Jackson talked about how Jackson's plans to have her pregnant in season 3 were a really bad idea, with Doc in particular disliking it.
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Cojawfee posted:I find it odd that Sheila was freaking out at addressing a group with male descriptors and then she says "bad guys" in this episode. If she was just doing that to make sure the language of the treaty was gender neutral, they should have made it more clear. This just makes her inconsistent. My go to for this is it's one of those things they can call themselves.
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Sep 9, 2018 17:50
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:Plus Doc and Jackson talked about how Jackson's plans to have her pregnant in season 3 were a really bad idea, with Doc in particular disliking it. This is true. If memory serves, they saw her as a strong, competent character, one they wanted to keep around. If she had a newborn to take care of, her character would largely go away, because they didn't see her as the type who'd be neglectful of her child. She's not a Venture.
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Sep 9, 2018 17:56
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They should just adopt Dean
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Sep 9, 2018 17:57
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Why Dean? They should adopt Hank.
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Sep 9, 2018 18:01
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I think Hank's leaning more toward good guy than bad. I also think mostly the same for Dean but I could see him being tempted. In any case, this show has a lot more for Hank than Dean to do. I also was just spitballing
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Hank already has a villain persona.
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