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Heir03 posted:Also I'm really curious what was picked up but not mentioned in the last post. It was the note from the 22 dwellers about the vengeful spirit, right? We discovered their camp last update but skipped over it on our way to our spirit quest, so this update we read what we picked up there. e: I think the quote "We also return to the Vault 22 Dwellers’ camp to pick up something I intentionally skip over." should have read "skipped over", maybe. eating only apples fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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eating only apples posted:It was the note from the 22 dwellers about the vengeful spirit, right? We discovered their camp last update but skipped over it on our way to our spirit quest, so this update we read what we picked up there. Ah, makes sense. I didn't pick up on that.
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Sep 10, 2018 02:01
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Given the origins of the "res" language, the abusive environment implied, and the other concepts discussed in the DLC, my guess would be that the School was one of these. If so, this definitely puts the depiction of other elements of the DLC in a different light.
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Sep 10, 2018 02:19
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Ohh, so the Dead Horses might've come from a reservation, but the Sorrows came from a residential school. That would explain why they all refer to their origin as "the Res." That makes a lot of sense.
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Sep 10, 2018 07:07
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Are there any hints at all as to why the Vault 22 survivors turned into a violent cannibal rape cult? Was it the spore disease?
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Sep 10, 2018 13:45
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Comrade Koba posted:Are there any hints at all as to why the Vault 22 survivors turned into a violent cannibal rape cult? Was it the spore disease? there is a section of Zion that has spore carriers and giant venus fly traps
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Sep 10, 2018 13:54
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That just explains why they were coughing, which we already knew. It doesn't explain why they were psychos.
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Sep 10, 2018 14:00
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They have to do something to survive, it's the Wasteland.
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Sep 10, 2018 14:15
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Could have been one of the vaults where one gender was proportionately greater than the other(and Vault-Tec chemically enforced this). Add to that a limited food supply and bam: cannibal Vault-Dwellers.
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Sep 10, 2018 14:18
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Moon Slayer posted:That just explains why they were coughing, which we already knew. It doesn't explain why they were psychos. Vault-tec: where inhumanity isn't just encouraged- it's mandatory!
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Sep 10, 2018 15:27
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Discendo Vox posted:Given the origins of the "res" language, the abusive environment implied, and the other concepts discussed in the DLC, my guess would be that the School was one of these. If so, this definitely puts the depiction of other elements of the DLC in a different light. I somehow never made this connection even though I'm native and my grandfather was sent to a residential school.
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Sep 10, 2018 17:27
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RickVoid posted:Could have been one of the vaults where one gender was proportionately greater than the other(and Vault-Tec chemically enforced this). Add to that a limited food supply and bam: cannibal Vault-Dwellers. I dont remember if Vault 22 was covered in its entirety (and I understand if not the place is so loving tedious) but: Vault 22 was not a social experiment vault, but an agricultural one. In the vault were scientists working on self-sufficiency to supply food for the vault inhabitants, with the help of a Big MT supplied fungus which attacks pests by infecting their nervous systems and altering their behaviour, which then mutated to infect humans. Which Answers: Moon Slayer posted:That just explains why they were coughing, which we already knew. It doesn't explain why they were psychos. Since real-life Cordyceps fungi are known to radically alter the behaviour of their host insects, such as making them seek out high ground for when the fungus is ready to spawn and spread its spores, difference being that this kills the insect, while in NV the fungus continues to animate the corpse. For a less spoilery hint: Think The Last of Us. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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Sep 10, 2018 17:35
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Right, I forgot that the Dwellers that made it to Zion were also the Dwellers from the Plant Vault. I guess the whole lovely treatment of women thing was just business as usual. Sigh.
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Gravity Cant Apple posted:I somehow never made this connection even though I'm native and my grandfather was sent to a residential school. I want to emphasize that this is a guess, entirely of my own making. I can find the idea nowhere else online, at all!
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Sep 11, 2018 07:03
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It makes a lot of sense though, and with how rushed the DLC was it seems like one of those things that would have been fleshed out or referenced elsewhere had they had more time. With a month dev time whoever wrote the terminal entries might not have even had time to tell other writers on the team what they were talking about and if they wanted it to be important.
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Sep 11, 2018 14:29
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Im fine with it not being mentioned anywhere else. You dont have to see everything thats mentioned off hand, as long as it doesnt sound too exciting, that is.
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Sep 11, 2018 14:41
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Sometimes things being subtle enough that you need someone else to point them out only makes them all the more fascinating.
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Sep 11, 2018 15:36
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And WC is so adamant about us not going into the sacred place that there must be some good poo poo in there.
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Sep 11, 2018 17:23
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We are approaching dangerous levels of my glorified fanfic. Sorry in advance. Chapter 56: Sun Vulture and the Honest Hearts 
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Sep 13, 2018 23:31
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Well, if it's fanfic, it's good fanfic. 
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Sep 14, 2018 00:18
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Excellent way to move through the back part of Honest Hearts - which is honestly mostly just a boring slugfest at that point.
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Sep 14, 2018 01:22
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Hate to be that guy but there's a 'could care less' in there that should be 'couldn't care less.'
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Sep 14, 2018 01:47
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Keep the puns coming and you can get as fanfictiony as you want. It'd still probably be better than most of what I read back in the day.
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PurpleXVI posted:Well, if it's fanfic, it's good fanfic. Not an emptyquote, just thinking the same thing.
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Sep 14, 2018 02:02
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Mummified Mormon of Murder is my new favorite honorific.
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Sep 14, 2018 02:44
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You took Sneering Imperialist just so you could say that line at the end, didn't you.
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Sep 14, 2018 03:40
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Nice to see Obsidian go back to the tried and true NWN2 ending. Rocks fall, everyone dies. Thanks for playing through this, I never had the patience to play through any of the Fallout DLC despite owning them all.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:02
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As I remember, Joshua is the toughest NPC in the game. There might be one or two around his level that I shall not spoil, but his stats are insane. He can and will take out that final mission on his own with nary a care.
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DeathChicken posted:As I remember, Joshua is the toughest NPC in the game. There might be one or two around his level that I shall not spoil, but his stats are insane. He can and will take out that final mission on his own with nary a care. So, he actually has 50 DT from his unique armor alone. The stuff he wears provides 40 DT from his suit and 10 DT from his head wraps. Sadly, you cannot wear the latter, not even if you manage to spawn it with console commands. Jew it to it! posted:Nice to see Obsidian go back to the tried and true NWN2 ending. Hey, I love doing it! And yeah, even though the writing is top-notch, the combat is hard to drudge through. One of the reasons I’m doing this! aniviron posted:You took Sneering Imperialist just so you could say that line at the end, didn't you.  Erwin the German posted:Mummified Mormon of Murder is my new favorite honorific. I think long and hard about these. Gotta make them memorable. Podima posted:Excellent way to move through the back part of Honest Hearts - which is honestly mostly just a boring slugfest at that point. It worked out, since there isn’t a whole lot of content in HH. Did my best! PurpleXVI posted:Well, if it's fanfic, it's good fanfic. ShootaBoy posted:Keep the puns coming and you can get as fanfictiony as you want. Kemix posted:Not an emptyquote, just thinking the same thing.  Oblique Angle posted:Hate to be that guy but there's a 'could care less' in there that should be 'couldn't care less.' Damnit! Hard to proofread poo poo when I’m my own editor. Thanks, fixed! Don’t hesitate to correct me, either! Only way I learn.
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aniviron posted:You took Sneering Imperialist just so you could say that line at the end, didn't you. Also without that your options are really quite stupid. It doesn't let you execute him and forces you to give him the chance to kill you first? Really?
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I'm pretty sure the "Let me talk to Joshua" option has a path where he convinces you to let him put a bullet in the guy. Either that or the Sneering Imperialist speech option replaces a less racist "go ahead, kill the fucker" option. I think letting Salt-Upon-Wounds fight also leads to a happier ending for Joshua and the tribes, at least based on the text of what I've seen. Looking forward to seeing what it actually changes.
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You chose the opposite paths for the two companions than the ones I do, and that's interesting. I'm not sure I've ever even seen Cloud's ending slide if you go that way. I usually let Salt Upon Wounds live, too. Seems to work out better for Josh in my mind.
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I agree that letting Salt Upon Wounds live leads to a better ending, but I don't think it would have been the Sun Vulture way.
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Sep 16, 2018 01:26
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I think Daniel is an interesting character, actually. Not because I agree with his conclusions or decisions, but because he seems like such a stranger in the Fallout universe. He is willing to sacrifice everything to protect the "innocence" of the Sorrows, which is a very curious motivation to find in a game like this. Selfless and noble on some level, but also flawed in many ways that he either brushes off or is just unaware of. He's also a good bit more selfish than he realizes, which is an extremely human flaw. I dunno, I think he's well-written. Probably wouldn't want to hang out with him, though. It also doesn't help his case that Joshua Graham is much more charismatic and has the badass repentant warrior-priest thing going for him.
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Sep 16, 2018 04:50
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No one can really win an argument against someone voiced by Keith Szarabajka. Poor Daniel.
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Sep 16, 2018 06:20
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Daniel has good intentions but he's wrong. The Sorrows aren't innocent, they're unprepared. They hunt and fight all the time, they just don't know how to do it against other humans, and it's getting them killed.
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"I must protect their innocence." "Don't they hunt and maim Yao Guai for their hands to make guantl-" "THEIR INNOCENCE!!!" Daniel probably would've been better written if they had more time.
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Sep 16, 2018 06:42
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I'm down with you actually doing the main quest finally
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aniviron posted:I agree that letting Salt Upon Wounds live leads to a better ending, but I don't think it would have been the Sun Vulture way. The official Sun Vulture way is a dish called Salt Upon Long Pork 
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And here... we... go. The beginning of the end. Chapter 57: Sun Vulture and the Strip Search 
ApeHawk fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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