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While my ice team is pretty great, my +ice gear situation is not. I'm hoping I can remedy it on this banner and/or replace Snow with a good chain. Worst comes to worst I'm getting some handy Crystal Tower tech.
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Zurai posted:It's definitely massive power creep. For reference, assuming you've got a decent chain going, Tidus will be able to do between an average of 117k to 235k damage per turn (depending on whether you can hit the 19,999 damage cap, which you should with some effort) with Sapphire Blitz and his full LD, before counting the chase. And he won't use any hones doing it. Anyway, that's all well and good that it has five effects, but I'm assuming it costs 50% more bar than a usb so having two more effects seems stronger but not massively so. Add to it the fact that you can only use it once a fight, presumably for 15 seconds. If I had a choice between one of these or a chain, I'd take the chain any day.
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Sep 11, 2018 00:38
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hey girl you up posted:Anyway, that's all well and good that it has five effects, but I'm assuming it costs 50% more bar than a usb so having two more effects seems stronger but not massively so. Add to it the fact that you can only use it once a fight, presumably for 15 seconds. Unfortunately they've done what they did with Cloud USB here: they played their strongest hand first which I'm sure is swaying perception too. Zurai's right that infinite-double-cast and damage cap breaking without any sort of downside whatsoever is really not fair even on a USB, especially on a character whose elemental game is already top notch. I'm sure that in general a lot of these won't be as gameshatteringly busted, but I guarantee there will be a heavy leaning towards longer/multi-phase fights for exactly that second reason. As it stands, most mid-range/early endgame content is over in about 30 in-game seconds with a good team anyway, with only 5* magicite, NuTorments and Transcendental bosses potentially taking longer. It's a bit different saying "you can only use it for 15 seconds" compared to "you can use it for half the fight". KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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Sep 11, 2018 00:50
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Zurai posted:FWIW there's no "O" in there. The entry doesn't deal overflow damage, just the chase. If we added O to all the USBs with chase/finisher/command overflows it'd get very confusing in Japan where AOSBs are actually UOSBs.  And speaking of, to elucidate more on the new systems at play: SolitaireD posted:Magia Crystal SolitaireD posted:Legendary Weapon
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Sep 11, 2018 00:53
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Hogama posted:- Together with Legendary Weapon implementation, battle logic for ATK/MAG/SUM damage will be improved Sounds like they're loving with the softcaps again. That's where the real powercreep will kick in.
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Sep 11, 2018 00:55
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I'm not surprised. With a 275 ATK weapon most characters would be able to easily hit the ATK soft cap without buffs or synergy, and magic characters would only need a single faithga.
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Sep 11, 2018 01:11
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm not surprised. With a 275 ATK weapon most characters would be able to easily hit the ATK soft cap without buffs or synergy, and magic characters would only need a single faithga. Isn't the MAG softcap like 1200? Even with 700 MAG a 30% boost is only 910 - I think we'll still need two MAG boosts to hit that cap. ATK cap is hilariously low, you're right.
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Sep 11, 2018 01:18
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1056 for magic. Attack used to be even lower at around 700.
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Sep 11, 2018 01:30
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Fister Roboto posted:1056 for magic. Attack used to be even lower at around 700.
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Sep 11, 2018 01:33
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Seems like the legendary weapons system is designed to take actual relics* out of the equation. Although in-realm magic teams might face some troubles on that front since you can't get multiple rods. *the equipment, not the Soul Breaks they come with, to clarify
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Sep 11, 2018 01:33
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Still no daily above 4* and Y'shtola's USB! That's a good one right? I always hear about how amazing it is from everyone, and I didn't just get more trash.
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Sep 11, 2018 02:03
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A surfing dog?! posted:Still no daily above 4* and Y'shtola's USB! That's a good one right? I always hear about how amazing it is from everyone, and I didn't just get more trash. my only 5* from the dailies thus far has been wol’s unique soul break. that’s not “warrior of light”, that’s wol’s unique (not super) soul break.
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Parade 14 Dusted me. I got Ysale's BSB (Shiva: Diamond Dust). I don't feel so good...
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Sep 11, 2018 02:13
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A surfing dog?! posted:Still no daily above 4* and Y'shtola's USB! That's a good one right? I always hear about how amazing it is from everyone, and I didn't just get more trash. I'm sorry to say any praise you've heard of Y'shtola USB is sarcasm, it's possibly the worst USB in the game
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Sep 11, 2018 02:22
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I got Haurchefant's LMR  Why does he have to be such a terrible character in this game?
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Sep 11, 2018 02:22
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hey girl you up posted:Anyway, that's all well and good that it has five effects, but I'm assuming it costs 50% more bar than a usb It does not. Two SB bars, the same as a USB. quote:Add to it the fact that you can only use it once a fight, presumably for 15 seconds. You won't need it for more than that, not for any current content. Tidus's can with entirely reasonable numbers deal more than 50% of D??? Yunalesca by himself (if he caps from the start and gets lucky with double casts he kills Yunalesca dead all by himself within the assumed 15 second duration -- note that the duration is not actually known right now except that it's at least ~11 seconds) with just realm chain and no imperil during those 15 seconds. That's not counting any of the DPS any other characters are doing nor what he can do with the SB gauge he builds up using unlimited hone 6 star abilities.
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Sep 11, 2018 02:32
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Indecisive posted:I'm sorry to say any praise you've heard of Y'shtola USB is sarcasm, it's possibly the worst USB in the game Her USB2 is amazing, though.
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Sep 11, 2018 02:32
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Zurai posted:It does not. Two SB bars, the same as a USB. Powercreep indeed. Tidus upgrades from Water machinegun to Water whatever the hell that Metal Storm Gun is.
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Sep 11, 2018 02:40
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Realms on Parade!!!! 0: Deuce SSB T: Orlandeau USB (dupe) 15: Ignis LMR 14: Estinien LMR Meh
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Sep 11, 2018 06:37
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Realms on Parade: 0: Ace OSB  FFT: Mustadio BSB  XV: Prompto BSB (dupe)  XIV: Y'shtola LMR 
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Sep 11, 2018 06:50
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Lol, dupe Thancred SSB which is exactly what I pulled for XIV during the last RoP.
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 Honestly the biggest problem I had with this fight was the tedium. I tried attacking beforehand but found that Kaiser Dragon's counters are just way too ruthless without significant debuffing. Hell, I was having issues with just one healer at a time and had to bring along Aemo to supplement things. (Her opener gives +ATK/MND which was critical to reach the softcap.) Most of my failures were in the first phase, either due to miscalculating my casts as none of the commands were instant, or encountering the bullshit that is the poison barrier. Once I could reach the second phase I only had to restart once, having forgotten to use the Godwall RW. :downsuicide: At the end losing a star or two for spent actions cost me mastery, because this game still has no wait mode or any way to put characters on standby. (I had to keep selecting Defend for Tyro/Cloud/Zack because otherwise the UI delay would get me killed.  )As for RoP I just got Y'shtola BSB. Which would be nice if it weren't a dupe.
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For JP: Maintenance on September 12th: - Magia System Maintenance on September 18th: - Legendary Weapon - ATK/MAG/SUM softcap increment - You can select up to 20 items in one go - Skip Relic Draw animation - Automatically sell 1~4* relics - Present Box items will now be sorted by Expiry Date SUM being listed separately might just mean that the minimum damage is being upped, and White Magic should be boosted, too, since BLK/WHT/SUM all use the same damage formula (with MND subbed for MAG on WHT). We won't know the new softcaps until then, though.
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Sep 11, 2018 09:35
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Haurchefant USB. Hmm.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Haurchefant USB. Hmm. I think i got that last RoP and I have never used it. Can't even remember what it does
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Elephant Ambush posted:Haurchefant USB. Hmm. There's a thread on the reddit where some guy ran it through all the magicites and basically came to the conclusion that its really good for tanking, but unfortunately nobody wants or needs a tank in this game. (also I got one last night too!) Edit: also that Haurchefant's ability selection is too narrow to be really useful otherwise. Basically he can work for Hades if your holy options are limited, but that's about it.
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NGDBSS posted:Hell, I was having issues with just one healer at a time and had to bring along Aemo to supplement things. (Her opener gives +ATK/MND which was critical to reach the softcap.) edit: I read that assuming you meant a healing softcap, because Zack chain should make it easy to hit the ATK softcap, but the wind imperils make me assume you were using his USB. My bad; I'll leave this for someone else it might help. hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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well after diligently doing my daily pulls since the update to the draw right i got my first 6* out of it, porom's ultra soul break which looks like "slightly different eiko's ultra soul break". always do your daily draws
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DeadButDelicious posted:Lol, dupe Thancred SSB which is exactly what I pulled for XIV during the last RoP. dude I have so many air knives it's sick
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Cool, I got Auron’s new USB from the daily. Also have some other misc stuff for him from random pulls, so got some +ATK baked in. Might be worth my first samurai dive, as he has a dual cast LM2. My other dove physical fire is Bartz (complete) and Sora (USB, glint, LMR). Got Reifa with USB and LMR too, but her dive is bad.
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hey girl you up posted:edit: I read that assuming you meant a healing softcap, because Zack chain should make it easy to hit the ATK softcap, but the wind imperils make me assume you were using his USB. My bad; I'll leave this for someone else it might help.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:23
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Pulled Estinien USB. Is it any good?
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super sweet best pal posted:Pulled Estinien USB. Is it any good? It's kind of like a slightly less potent version of Luneth's USB; both are enelement + stacking ATK buff + quickcast cycling, but Luneth's quickcycle is stronger (3x speed instead of 2x speed) and applies on more things (wind attacks instead of wind dragoon attacks). It's a solid workhorse, but if you already have a good USB'd Wind Dragoon (Freya, Luneth, Fang, even Nine) it's not going to stand out.
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That's a comparison I've wanted to have done for a while now. Thank you for assuring me that Luneth is the superior windyboy.
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Alxprit posted:That's a comparison I've wanted to have done for a while now. Thank you for assuring me that Luneth is the superior windyboy. Yeah. Luneth's is a proper EX Mode that gives High Quick Cast Cycling and +30% ATK, whereas Estinien's is a normal Quick Cast Cycling and equally normal (albeit relatively rare) +30% ATK/DEF.
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Sep 11, 2018 22:47
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Ahahaha, DD just got me Ramza’s USB. This games alright
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Sep 11, 2018 23:01
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And here I was excited to get Cloud BSB1 on my DD...
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Just FYI, the Magia System is an utter trash fire at launch. Summary:
Summary: you have to spend roughly an entire day's worth of stamina on 1 stamina stages to level 100 a cap a single Magia option and all of the elemental options are marginal to actually honest to god worthless. The stat points might be useful depending on the new stat caps, but probably not given legendary weapons. HP is the only useful stat and you have to macro for a whole day for every 5 characters to get 500 HP.
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So, it’sweak enough that actually going out of your way to farm it is worthless? I’m fine with that, hopefully by the time it actually matters they’ll have ironed out the kinks. Won’t stop Reddit idiots from setting macros, but they can get themselves hosed. 
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Pulls so far: Type-0: Ace LMR FFT: Marach BSB FFXV: Noctis Glint, Prompto BSB FFXIV: Papalymo OSB No dupes, at least! DizzyBum fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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