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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

voodoospork posted:

Well, two of them are literal brothers, and one is my best friend since middle school. I trust them at least.

I guess I can just pick you folks' brains here until I satisfy the active poster requirement and can sponsor them.

In that vein, what is our most realistic jumpstart? We've got a few billion to spend on making more isk and a few characters trained as miners. I think we've got an Orca so far and assorted mining frigates. Is there anything we can spend this money on that will see a reliably out-sized payout? We could field about 3 cruisers for combat content, and we're not above ratting if that's the best way to make some money.

I think you would make more ISK ratting in a Vexor Navy than you would mining in an Orca. If you get into goonswarm the most profitable activity for newbies is to follow behind someone ratting in a super carrier and salvage their wrecks. When ratting in a super it doesn't makes sense to salvage, you make more isk/hour by warping to the next site and just killing more rats.

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voodoospork
Oct 13, 2009

Rutibex posted:

I think you would make more ISK ratting in a Vexor Navy than you would mining in an Orca. If you get into goonswarm the most profitable activity for newbies is to follow behind someone ratting in a super carrier and salvage their wrecks. When ratting in a super it doesn't makes sense to salvage, you make more isk/hour by warping to the next site and just killing more rats.

It's good to hear that loot bitching is still a thing.

katka posted:

Maybe y'all could look into Karmafleet? I'm not sure what the exact requirements are to get into Karmafleet, but I don't think it's much.

Upon investigation, that seems like a pretty superior option to trying to black box this thing until we run out of isk. I have to admit that the ship replacement policy ramps up the appeal tremendously.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

voodoospork posted:

Upon investigation, that seems like a pretty superior option to trying to black box this thing until we run out of isk. I have to admit that the ship replacement policy ramps up the appeal tremendously.

You should probably just apply to Goonwaffe.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

voodoospork posted:

I guess I can just pick you folks' brains here until I satisfy the active poster requirement and can sponsor them.

That's a pretty great way to get rejected for being a j4g.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

SolusLunes posted:

That's a pretty great way to get rejected for being a j4g.

people still use j4g unironically :laffo: like if a guy wants to play with you and wants to play with his friends who cares if he is a j4g (lol), that retard dbrb is and he's still in goons

also: pulled all of my characters out of ncdot, feels good to just be free to roam and shoot than endless sov defense (well, losing endless sov defenses)

Kimsemus fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Sep 11, 2018

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Kimsemus posted:

people still use j4g unironically :laffo: like if a guy wants to play with you and wants to play with his friends who cares if he is a j4g (lol), that retard dbrb is and he's still in goons

also: pulled all of my characters out of ncdot, feels good to just be free to roam and shoot than endless sov defense (well, losing endless sov defenses)

Hey gently caress you, i'm the poster boy for j4g here. It is known

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Kimsemus posted:

people still use j4g unironically :laffo: like if a guy wants to play with you and wants to play with his friends who cares if he is a j4g (lol), that retard dbrb is and he's still in goons

also: pulled all of my characters out of ncdot, feels good to just be free to roam and shoot than endless sov defense (well, losing endless sov defenses)

this is funny coming from you of all people lol

you're an annoying fuckboy who tries to take charge of the GOON LEADERSHIP in every single new MMO that comes out

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

this is funny coming from you of all people lol

you're an annoying fuckboy who tries to take charge of the GOON LEADERSHIP in every single new MMO that comes out

the last time i lead a goon guild was archeage

which also explains your demented post, get a life friendo

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Kimsemus posted:

the last time i lead a goon guild was archeage

which also explains your demented post, get a life friendo

Don't be dishonest. I can bring up your post history and see where you tried to start a Bless Online guild a few months ago.

voodoospork
Oct 13, 2009
If being active to get in is against the rules, I'm probably already hosed anyway because I've never been a really active poster. I don't see the point in pretending anyone is an idiot. If we could go out by our pirate lonesome and be successful, I would not be looking to gang up. I'm willing to be more active so as not to be the only chumps not ganging up. I feel like a goon because I have benefited time and again from goon knowledge. That's all I'm trying to do now. If that's in the form of information in the thread that I can use to do better in a video game, great. If it means I get to join in on antics that live in PVP infamy, that would be pretty stellar too.

I'll just apply to Goonwaffe and hope for the best.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Hello Sailor posted:

Don't be dishonest. I can bring up your post history and see where you tried to start a Bless Online guild a few months ago.

ruining goon content in a game i don't even own

voodoospork posted:

If being active to get in is against the rules, I'm probably already hosed anyway because I've never been a really active poster. I don't see the point in pretending anyone is an idiot. If we could go out by our pirate lonesome and be successful, I would not be looking to gang up. I'm willing to be more active so as not to be the only chumps not ganging up. I feel like a goon because I have benefited time and again from goon knowledge. That's all I'm trying to do now. If that's in the form of information in the thread that I can use to do better in a video game, great. If it means I get to join in on antics that live in PVP infamy, that would be pretty stellar too.

I'll just apply to Goonwaffe and hope for the best.

just ignore the braindamaged badposters ITT, follow your dreams. if they don't let you into their dumb gay clubhouse message me in game and I'll get you into a pirate corp.

some posters here are still under the mistaken impression they're somehow special because they effortposted before it was cool

Kimsemus fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Sep 11, 2018

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

voodoospork posted:

If being active to get in is against the rules, I'm probably already hosed anyway because I've never been a really active poster. I don't see the point in pretending anyone is an idiot. If we could go out by our pirate lonesome and be successful, I would not be looking to gang up. I'm willing to be more active so as not to be the only chumps not ganging up. I feel like a goon because I have benefited time and again from goon knowledge. That's all I'm trying to do now. If that's in the form of information in the thread that I can use to do better in a video game, great. If it means I get to join in on antics that live in PVP infamy, that would be pretty stellar too.

I'll just apply to Goonwaffe and hope for the best.

Kim is a dumb bitter ex, don't listen to him.

The posting requirement is mostly just a "can we confirm from your post history (not in the eve thread) that you will be a culture fit." If not, shotgun posting to up your post count won't help. Apply to waffe, and if you get rejected, apply to Karmafleet (which is part of the same org, just has lower entry requirements). That way you'll still be under the same umbrella and don't have to go fart around by yourself or with some terrible pubbie corp.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

voodoospork posted:

Well, two of them are literal brothers, and one is my best friend since middle school. I trust them at least.

I guess I can just pick you folks' brains here until I satisfy the active poster requirement and can sponsor them.

In that vein, what is our most realistic jumpstart? We've got a few billion to spend on making more isk and a few characters trained as miners. I think we've got an Orca so far and assorted mining frigates. Is there anything we can spend this money on that will see a reliably out-sized payout? We could field about 3 cruisers for combat content, and we're not above ratting if that's the best way to make some money.

Suck all those mining skills out and turn them into combat skills for ratting and pvp, aka The Content

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
all you need to know about Kimsemus is he thinks he is Frank Underwood

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Addamere posted:

all you need to know about Kimsemus is he thinks he is Frank Underwood

yes

Kimsemus fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Sep 11, 2018

Morkfang
Dec 9, 2009

I'm awesome.
:smug:

Pomp posted:

Suck all those mining skills out

That's the worst thing you could suggest to someone who wants to move to Delve.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb
when is the do6 keepstar exploding?

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
does 6-24 still randomly kill goons

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

ChickenWing posted:

Kim is a dumb bitter ex, don't listen to him.

The posting requirement is mostly just a "can we confirm from your post history (not in the eve thread) that you will be a culture fit." If not, shotgun posting to up your post count won't help. Apply to waffe, and if you get rejected, apply to Karmafleet (which is part of the same org, just has lower entry requirements). That way you'll still be under the same umbrella and don't have to go fart around by yourself or with some terrible pubbie corp.

Karma fleet
Not terrible pubbie corp

Pick one

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

voodoospork posted:

If being active to get in is against the rules, I'm probably already hosed anyway because I've never been a really active poster. I don't see the point in pretending anyone is an idiot. If we could go out by our pirate lonesome and be successful, I would not be looking to gang up. I'm willing to be more active so as not to be the only chumps not ganging up. I feel like a goon because I have benefited time and again from goon knowledge. That's all I'm trying to do now. If that's in the form of information in the thread that I can use to do better in a video game, great. If it means I get to join in on antics that live in PVP infamy, that would be pretty stellar too.

I'll just apply to Goonwaffe and hope for the best.

If Maneck told you to apply then apply. He's the one pushing buttons after all

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast
Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

yogizh posted:

Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

They've got better corp-level benefits.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

yogizh posted:

Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

it has been a while since SA had much new blood, and consequently goonwaffe hasn't had a lot of newbies in a while. karmafleet has, so they're actually somewhat superior at helping newbies out these days because they do it more often.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

yogizh posted:

Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

It's usually recommended when people start talking about posting requirements, implying they do not fulfill them and probably wouldn't get into 'waffe.


working mom posted:

Karma fleet
Not terrible pubbie corp

Pick one

I didn't say Karmafleet wasn't terrible, I said if you join them you won't have to fart around with a terrible pubbie corp. Joining karmafleet means you can fart around with better, less pubbie corps. You're just not in them :sun:

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

yogizh posted:

Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

Because the double SRP for waffe got cut during the Casino War, combined with the lack of any real corp-level organization in Goonwaffe meant that the only benefit to being in waffe itself, for the Average Line MemberTM, was having GEWNS by your name and no activity requirements, while newer players with a burning interest in playing EVE were more likely to be successful and have fun in Karmafleet which apparently does have corp-level roams and corp-level newbie helping resources in addition to the alliance-level newbie programs, as well as some pretty amazing corp-level SRP (apparently), in exchange for some pretty modest in-game activity requirements (that most newbies should probably be meeting anyway) and the shame of being in Karmafleet.

Also, yeah, no SA posting requirements for Karmafleet. They may or may not have Reddit posting requirements I don't really know. Or care. Most people seem to post on reddit these days regardless so it's not exactly onerous in any case.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





If you never want to login except for the biggest of red pens waffe is great though.

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast
In that case there was never a better time to introduce free Phoenix program.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Waffe is also the corp to be in if you want to do behind-the-scenes/less obvious useful infrastructure things like fueling and lasering but who cares about pos or sov anymore

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

yogizh posted:

Why do people recommend joining Karmafleet ITT ? Just join the superposting behemoth which is Goonwaffe.

For people who enjoy SA, Goonwaffe is the better choice. For new players whose primary interest is playing EVE, Karmafleet has a lot to offer.

keppke
Mar 3, 2013
Hey guys, so here is my situation, played a lot of eve betwen 2013-2015 in WH space had RL issues stopped playing, the group I played with all left the game as well, started playing again like 3 weeks ago doing lvl4 missions on alpha, Just wanna have a chill place to krab and post memes and talk poo poo, not really into the blob fights. Is this type of player profile wanted here with the goons? Your land is pretty safe and I'd like to krab and chill with you guys and eventually do some roams

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

keppke posted:

Hey guys, so here is my situation, played a lot of eve betwen 2013-2015 in WH space had RL issues stopped playing, the group I played with all left the game as well, started playing again like 3 weeks ago doing lvl4 missions on alpha, Just wanna have a chill place to krab and post memes and talk poo poo, not really into the blob fights. Is this type of player profile wanted here with the goons? Your land is pretty safe and I'd like to krab and chill with you guys and eventually do some roams

:golfclap:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

yogizh posted:

In that case there was never a better time to introduce free Phoenix program.

:hmmyes:

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

hailthefish posted:

Because the double SRP for waffe got cut during the Casino War, combined with the lack of any real corp-level organization in Goonwaffe meant that the only benefit to being in waffe itself, for the Average Line MemberTM, was having GEWNS by your name and no activity requirements, while newer players with a burning interest in playing EVE were more likely to be successful and have fun in Karmafleet which apparently does have corp-level roams and corp-level newbie helping resources in addition to the alliance-level newbie programs, as well as some pretty amazing corp-level SRP (apparently), in exchange for some pretty modest in-game activity requirements (that most newbies should probably be meeting anyway) and the shame of being in Karmafleet.

Also, yeah, no SA posting requirements for Karmafleet. They may or may not have Reddit posting requirements I don't really know. Or care. Most people seem to post on reddit these days regardless so it's not exactly onerous in any case.

Yea like I was pretty confused when I joined, nobody ever spoke or responded in corp chat. That is probably pretty depressing for a newbee used to do everything in gamechats.
Jabber is superior in every way and as a true j4g I had 5 years of Eve behind me so I never needed help in that way. Main reason why I wanted to join Waffe was that I got freaking sick of smaller corps becoming dead every 6 months, the pain of finding a new one withing the coalition. To be honest I was pretty sceptic about raiding reddit for new members, but it went pretty fine (unlike titfeeding TEST).
Guys did a good job of creating unique corp with it's own thing. They are like if Amok. wasn't so dead.

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast

keppke posted:

post memes

Are those Facebook memes or clown themed memes ?

Zalmun
Jan 17, 2008

It'sa me!

Nap Ghost

:popeye:

keppke
Mar 3, 2013

yogizh posted:

Are those Facebook memes or clown themed memes ?

uhhh reddit ones, and sometimes I create some bad ones by myself

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

yogizh posted:

Yea like I was pretty confused when I joined, nobody ever spoke or responded in corp chat. That is probably pretty depressing for a newbee used to do everything in gamechats.
Jabber is superior in every way and as a true j4g I had 5 years of Eve behind me so I never needed help in that way. Main reason why I wanted to join Waffe was that I got freaking sick of smaller corps becoming dead every 6 months, the pain of finding a new one withing the coalition. To be honest I was pretty sceptic about raiding reddit for new members, but it went pretty fine (unlike titfeeding TEST).
Guys did a good job of creating unique corp with it's own thing. They are like if Amok. wasn't so dead.

Pretty much what happened to me too. I took a few months hiatus and came back to a dying alliance. I wanted to remain with the CFC, had been lurking here for a while so I made the jump.

The real difference is, you were smarter than me and didn't do your first post in that Missartaq thread

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal
That's a lot of what goons has to offer, and they're way more stable. I ended up in like 5 different NCdot corps, mostly because one would die and the members who were still around would go to another. This is why at one point Burning Napalm was the one big USTZ corp in ncdot and Burn Eden was literally just me and travis musgratt. I went from FIXX to MC to NCdot in one form or another the last decade or so, and they all die while goons have stuck around.

I poo poo on goonwaffe a lot ITT mostly because of a handful of people, but the org as a whole is fun to be in and fun to fight. The amount of activity going on at once can be almost overwhelming. So many other null alliances have gone to poo poo and collapsed but goonwaffe has survived in one form or another.

I mostly just pirate in low now because I'm blacklisted literally everywhere to be fair.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Maneck posted:

For people who enjoy SA, Goonwaffe is the better choice. For new players whose primary interest is playing EVE, Karmafleet has a lot to offer.

Yes, if you enjoy an internet forum where 99% of the posting is by a small laser-focused group of shut-ins and nobody new ever joins then you will absolutely love the eve corp version! For real though goonwaffe is absolutely no place to be if you're new and learning eve. Join Karmafleet or one of the other many corps within our alliance. You'll still get to shitpost on the forums and jabber if such is your wont.

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Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
RIP Vile Rat

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