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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

wikipedia has

to say. The categories use wind speed but the categories themselves are based on expected damage to buildings based on that wind speed. Which, as pointed out above, doesnt take storm sturge or other factors into consideration

its really about ethics to muh property damage :qq:

cool that there's scientific basis revolving around that instead of just actually labeling it for wind speed and surge

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Jose posted:

hurricane helene



final destination no items jose only

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jose posted:

hurricane helene



gently caress cornwall

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Jose posted:

hurricane helene



I hope it scoots right through the channel for max destruction

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

Vox Nihili posted:

Even a pretty big category 5 wouldn't knock down skyscrapers or anything.

No, but it will hollow out the interior by blowing through most windows and trashing everything out the other side. This also doesn't factor in the damage of the sustained flooding to foundation supports whilst under 110+mph winds for several days at a time.

Fall over, no, but bend and tilt? It's possible (still unlikely, but it's 2018 and lmao at impossibility).

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋

1994 Toyota Celica posted:

nature itself is going to teabag charleston

Tremendously big, tremendously wet tea bagging.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005

Duscat posted:

THERE'S NO HURRICANE ABOVE A CAT5 i scream as i am lofted into the stratosphere


:thunk:

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

Lastgirl posted:

its really about ethics to muh property damage :qq:

cool that there's scientific basis revolving around that instead of just actually labeling it for wind speed and surge
*libertarianishly*
property damage, the worst kind of damage :argh:

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
People thinking that category is the measure of the strength of a storm:

https://twitter.com/Lixen123/status/1039996689103441920?s=20

https://twitter.com/craigruss372/status/1039996912848588800

https://twitter.com/laurentiius/status/1039988693048541184

https://twitter.com/angela214/status/1039992837666951168

https://twitter.com/amar71168/status/1039992404177289216

Meteorologists:

https://twitter.com/pennlive/status/1039995846664876033

https://twitter.com/mark_baden/status/1039972693838315525

On next weeks episode I will discuss people who hear that a storm has slowed down before hitting the land, and think that’s a good thing

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
[Quake Announcer Voice over the Weather Channel Broadcast:] Category Six!

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Lastgirl posted:

*shuffles scientific papers scattered across the room, unable to keep tabs on the whole thing*

uhhh gently caress it, just label it as Hypercane, then Ultracane, then Megacane, or was it the other way around

weirdly the scale is only for North Atlantic hurricanes

I've no idea how the Pacific does typhoons, maybe we can get together and have some sort of METRIC rough estimate as to a storm's power output per hour or something

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
here's one of the trees next to the house i got drunk and hid from hurricane gustav in



category 2

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Jose posted:

hurricane helene



The Azores are hosed

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Lastgirl posted:

[Quake Announcer Voice over the Weather Channel Broadcast:] Category Six!

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

but yeah sandy hit nyc as essentially category 1 (it was extratropical at that point but whatevs) and we got turbo-hosed by it anyway

the problem here is going to be the stalling on the coast for at least a day dumping wind and rain on the same area for hours and hours on end

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

they use wind speed because that's what buildings are designed to withstand and the range of wind speeds for each category is based on expected damage

rainfall and storm surge are too site-specific to be effective for a scale like that but there are proposed alternative scales that take them into account, though they haven't been adopted because they're not really useful to the general public

All I am saying is people are going to die in floods because this scale doesn’t take that into account and they assume it is the deadliness scale

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

*hurricane drops 5mph in wind strength but grows in size by 100's of miles*

THANK YOU LORD PRESIDENT TRUMP

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Al! posted:

final destination no items jose only

lol.

fortunately its got to smash the poo poo out of ireland and the rest of england first before it reaches me

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
guys whatever it's a cat 3 now, nothing to worry about

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005
just lmao that I was able to get away from the east coast a relatively short time before it was destroyed bby a comically large mega global warning hurricane

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Isizzlehorn posted:

*hurricane drops 5mph in wind strength but grows in size by 100's of miles*

THANK YOU LORD PRESIDENT TRUMP

Lmao america

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i guess firing my ar15 in the general direction of the hurricane worked

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i hate to say it but we're gonna have to take over some garbage rear end state like illinois to survive

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Isizzlehorn posted:

*hurricane drops 5mph in wind strength but grows in size by 100's of miles*

THANK YOU LORD PRESIDENT TRUMP

yeah the energy the storm is bringing to bear has actually increased - the integrated kinetic energy measurement is like 100 terajoules right now i think

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

anime was right posted:

i hate to say it but we're gonna have to take over some garbage rear end state like illinois to survive

i am not looking forward to migrating to great lakes metroplex h-7

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

quote:

although the maximum winds are expected to weaken a little more,
florence is still expected to remain a dangerous major hurricane as
it approaches the coast. the threat to life from storm surge and
rainfall will not diminish, and these impacts will cover a large
area regardless of exactly where the center of florence moves.

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

weakened winds?? wow! trump has saved nc!!

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Crusader posted:

yeah the energy the storm is bringing to bear has actually increased - the integrated kinetic energy measurement is like 100 terajoules right now i think

It’s like if you’re standing in the road and a car is about to crash into you at 70 miles an hour, but then it slows down to 65 and morphs into a hummer

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

twoday posted:

It’s like if you’re standing in the road and a car is about to crash into you at 70 miles an hour, but then it slows down to 65 and morphs into a hummer

lol

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

twoday posted:

It’s like if you’re standing in the road and a car is about to crash into you at 70 miles an hour, but then it slows down to 65 and morphs into a hummer

even our hurricanes carbo load

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

twoday posted:

It’s like if you’re standing in the road and a car is about to crash into you at 70 miles an hour, but then it slows down to 65 and morphs into a hummer

lmao

succ
Nov 11, 2016

by Cyrano4747

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Leave a note on the talk page calling them out so your edit can't get unceremoniously wiped and forgotten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orleans_Parish_Prison#Abandonment_during_Hurricane_Katrina

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

the katrina warning from the weather service is still amazing over a decade later

quote:

URGENT — WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28, 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH... RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES
AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Crusader posted:

the katrina warning from the weather service is still amazing over a decade later

camile, nice

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
a Cat. Tremendously Wet hurricane

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

twoday posted:

It’s like if you’re standing in the road and a car is about to crash into you at 70 miles an hour, but then it slows down to 65 and morphs into a hummer and you decide to salute and scream TRUMP instead of dodging

ftfy

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Crusader posted:

the katrina warning from the weather service is still amazing over a decade later

Now post the fake one

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

The Glumslinger posted:

Now post the fake one

i wish i still had it, i just vaguely remember it ending with "KATRINA IS COMING KATRINA IS COMING", which may not even be accurate

succ
Nov 11, 2016

by Cyrano4747
Lol Katrina basically happened and no significant changes were made to federal/state/local responses to hurricanes.

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Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Duscat posted:

lol why don't you go fly a confederate flag about it

Given that the army corp of engineers intentionally constructed levis more poorly in the poor and black neighborhoods, that's a really loving bizzarre thing for you to say

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