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Carlosologist posted:every bad idea that people have about improving Pokemon is currently being played out in Pokemon Reborn Is that the one where you have to overthrow a dictator or the one where your dead mom is the cover legendary?
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lezard_valeth posted:Is that the one where you have to overthrow a dictator or the one where your dead mom is the cover legendary? dead mom is Uranium, and I have no idea about the dictator one
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Sep 13, 2018 04:53
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i will never let the pokemon sage dream die
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Sep 13, 2018 04:55
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lezard_valeth posted:Is that the one where you have to overthrow a dictator or the one where your dead mom is the cover legendary? Reborn is the one based on an internet RP where everyone is a gigantic rear end in a top hat, and patches make the difficulty "more hardcore".
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Sep 13, 2018 05:10
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Schubalts posted:Reborn is the one based on an internet RP where everyone is a gigantic rear end in a top hat, and patches make the difficulty "more hardcore". Pokemon is definitely the best example, except for maybe the Power Rangers reboot movie, of why it is for the best that franchises do not grow up with their audience. I've never read the summary for a fanmade Pokemon game that wasn't poo poo like this.
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Sep 13, 2018 05:20
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Carlosologist posted:dead mom is Uranium, and I have no idea about the dictator one Pokécry 4?
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Sep 13, 2018 06:14
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SuperKlaus posted:Yeah I can dig that. I used a team of guys I thought were cool in HeartGold and I'd definitely do the same going forward. Alolan Sandslash is a slam dunk for my team unless his stats are abominable. Shoot I used Butterfree in Blue when I was a kid. Butterfree was good in gen 1.
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Sep 13, 2018 06:26
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Siets posted:Ahh yesss... Hmmm... *smacks lips* gently caress off.
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Sep 13, 2018 06:56
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Kids haven't been buying Pokemon games like they used to so using a popular mobile game like Go as a backdoor to bring kids into the series proper makes perfect sense you loving creep.
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Sep 13, 2018 06:57
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Also you get the parents who were into Pokemon when they were kids. Help your kid catch that Venonat by chucking a second ball alongside theirs. Is the extra boost necessary to get that Venonat in you box? Probably not. But the important thing is that you did it together.
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Sep 13, 2018 07:32
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Countblanc posted:Gen 7 is definitely a better experience than Gen 3 and 4 if you aren't nostalgic for them. This but extend it to gens 1 and 2
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Sep 13, 2018 09:17
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Also the dead mom's not the Pokemon in Uranium, she's just the bad guy controlling the legendary after losing her mind from radiation exposure. Her bad guy name is CURIE
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Sep 13, 2018 15:35
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^^^ Are any of these fangames good? Between Dead/Crazymom, completely unbalanced new mons (clearly designed for a competitive niche), and terrorist organizations I just want one that's like...fuckin Pokemon man. I know the romhacks are said to be good. Siets posted:Ahh yesss... Hmmm... *smacks lips* Don't pull anything reaching.
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Sep 13, 2018 16:59
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Crystal clear is okay, it's Crystal without really needing hms much. It has like no story so I guess that's why it works better then reborn and uranium
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Sep 13, 2018 17:59
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pokemon sage is still being developed last i heard and for all intents and purposes it's pretty much a relatively normal deal with good fanmade pokemonCountblanc posted:i will never let the pokemon sage dream die
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Sep 13, 2018 18:37
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we all know the best pokemon fangame is pokemon quartz
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Sep 13, 2018 18:40
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The best hacks are Pokemon Snakewood and Pokemon Dark Rising, because both of them will make you go "Yeah, I'm not planning fan games anymore."
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Sep 13, 2018 18:43
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Takoluka posted:The best hacks are Pokemon Snakewood and Pokemon Dark Rising, because both of them will make you go "Yeah, I'm not planning fan games anymore." Reborn should have the same effect, even moreso if you're acquaintanced with the backstory behind that game.
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Sep 13, 2018 18:47
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The correct answer is of course Vietnamese Crystal
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Sep 13, 2018 19:31
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Blaze Dragon posted:Reborn should have the same effect, even moreso if you're acquaintanced with the backstory behind that game. Do tell!
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Sep 13, 2018 19:40
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Blaze Dragon posted:Reborn should have the same effect, even moreso if you're acquaintanced with the backstory behind that game. ...go on.
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Sep 13, 2018 19:43
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SuperKlaus posted:Yeah I can dig that. I used a team of guys I thought were cool in HeartGold and I'd definitely do the same going forward. Alolan Sandslash is a slam dunk for my team unless his stats are abominable. Shoot I used Butterfree in Blue when I was a kid. I personally enjoyed Moon more than Ultra Moon--the new stuff in Ultra is pretty minimal unless you're digging deep into post-game, and they ruined the climax of the story
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Sep 13, 2018 19:48
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Takoluka posted:Do tell! omnibobb posted:...go on. We could tell you, or you could go have a read of OFS' ongoing Let's Play of the game.
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Sep 13, 2018 19:54
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Takoluka posted:Do tell! omnibobb posted:...go on. Basically, Reborn is based on an already-existing RP, and the people involved in it. This means a lot of things for the game, including you, the player, having no role whatsoever in the plot, but more importantly: everyone, every single person, involved in the Reborn RP clearly had serious issues that needed therapy really badly, and instead they got an echo chamber where they could make each other worse. This led to bad things, and the game's creator, Amethyst, decided to have said bad things in the game. This includes a person commiting suicide, and one passing away due to illness. These are meant to be "tributes" to the people involved. They are not done with the subtlety needed for this. The suicidal person is immediately mocked, an event that would be disgusting in and of itself without knowing that, through a character, Amethyst is directly mocking a person who killed himself - even worse, his own daughter was part of the RP as well. The passing-away person is nothing but an annoyance to the player, constantly getting in the way of them saving a bunch of people, something she's well aware of, and she ends up getting decapitated by a Garchomp after nearly commiting suicide-by-player through doing more than she could because honour or whatever. These are only the worst examples of Reborn. Onmi actually had an interview with Amethyst and after reading it, the game suddenly makes a lot more sense, it's a project born not out of love but of a wish to keep Patreon funds going, Amethyst herself hates Pokemon. But even beyond that, I'm nearly sure Amethyst is a sociopath that is completely unable to understand how normal people react to emotional and important moments. The interview is on the LP linked above my post, and I fully recommend reading the LP as well to properly comprehend what Reborn is. It's the kind of bad that you can't even laugh at.
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Sep 13, 2018 19:55
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Meanwhile, in actual pokemon games, we do in fact have people committing suicide (XY/ORAS) and passing away due to age (U/SM) Also parental neglect (Poke through Sea Mauville) Actually, Mauville itself is chock full of wonderful adult situations that are probably funny to a kid, but far harsher to older players
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Sep 13, 2018 20:00
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Who committed suicide in XY and ORAS?
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Sep 13, 2018 20:04
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thetoughestbean posted:Who committed suicide in XY and ORAS? Lysandre in Y and five old men to create Mr. Bonding in ORAS You can also find U-Turn on a balcony in the Mauville apartments...
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Sep 13, 2018 20:06
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Blaze Dragon posted:decapitated by a Garchomp jesus christ
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Sep 13, 2018 20:23
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Vinylshadow posted:The correct answer is of course Vietnamese Crystal WILD HE HE JUMP OUT
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Sep 13, 2018 20:27
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I started a hack called Penumbra Moon and trainers in the trainer's school for babies are using paraflinch strats. Seems like a good hack
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Sep 14, 2018 04:03
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Vinylshadow posted:Lysandre in Y and five old men to create Mr. Bonding in ORAS Wasn't there also a quest in X/Y where you could find a sad old man who asked you for a Pokemon to keep him company, and when you return to him, the Pokeball is on the floor with a note attached while like 2 steps outside you can find an escape rope on the edge of a pretty high pier?
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Sep 14, 2018 12:45
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I personally love how ORAS was just like “remember 10 years ago? Yeah you’re getting older and things aren’t as rosy as you remember. Good luck with life tho!” Kinda rude seeing as how I was a little kid when RSE came out 
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Sep 14, 2018 15:12
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I thought the depressed office workers in ORAS were a commentary on Japanese workplace culture specifically, mirroring the guys in XY talking about how sweet it was to live in Europe and have chill workdays with lots of vacation time.
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Sep 14, 2018 15:47
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Kikas posted:Wasn't there also a quest in X/Y where you could find a sad old man who asked you for a Pokemon to keep him company, and when you return to him, the Pokeball is on the floor with a note attached while like 2 steps outside you can find an escape rope on the edge of a pretty high pier? No you're thinking of when you give a sad old man a Pokemon to keep him company, and then you NEVER GO BACK AND THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS FOREVER AND EVER.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:05
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And then you meet an old lady being carried by a Machamp in a graveyard in Sun & Moon Also the entire Eevee-Z quest
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Sep 14, 2018 18:42
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Classtoise posted:^^^ Insurgence is good. It's got a stupid plot that I think is fun in a power fantasy way, there's a bunch of cool/cute Pokémon you can catch right out of the gate, all of the original Pokémon are just redesigns of actual Pokémon and I think some are actually really cool (but you can disable/easily ignore them if you're not a fan.) They have a nice difficulty, and have a bunch of easy ways to power up your Pokémon if you somehow end up under leveled. It's definitely substantially harder than the mainline games, but I got through it fine using a team that included a leavanny and a flareon. Gym leaders and the like use mega evolution and have pretty intelligent team compositions that use competitive hold items and abilities. For instance one gym leader has a protean greninja that he uses to set up on your team, and the elite 4 are all themed around stuff like trick room and weather effects. I think it's a really fun and creative Pokémon game, even if it is clearly a fan game.
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Sep 14, 2018 20:08
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 Who's that Pokemon?
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Sep 14, 2018 21:38
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Charlie Bobson posted:Insurgence is good. It's got a stupid plot that I think is fun in a power fantasy way, there's a bunch of cool/cute Pokémon you can catch right out of the gate, all of the original Pokémon are just redesigns of actual Pokémon and I think some are actually really cool (but you can disable/easily ignore them if you're not a fan.) They have a nice difficulty, and have a bunch of easy ways to power up your Pokémon if you somehow end up under leveled. It's definitely substantially harder than the mainline games, but I got through it fine using a team that included a leavanny and a flareon. Gym leaders and the like use mega evolution and have pretty intelligent team compositions that use competitive hold items and abilities. For instance one gym leader has a protean greninja that he uses to set up on your team, and the elite 4 are all themed around stuff like trick room and weather effects. I think it's a really fun and creative Pokémon game, even if it is clearly a fan game. Honestly Pokemon games should have different difficulty modes that leave everything the same and just adjust the team compositions, levels, held items, and move sets of gyms bosses and trainers. I’d be all for trying to counter Nintendo Cup style teams during my playthrough. I’m guessing there’s romhacks out there that do this already? I will admit I don’t know the Pokemon modding scene very well.
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Sep 14, 2018 22:48
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BW2 had that.
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Schubalts posted:BW2 had that. And none other, because actually keeping good ideas is not how Game Freak works.
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