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Xenomrph posted:I had an idea for a short story if they do another ‘Aliens’ short story anthology - it focuses on a scientist on Thedus Station, and he just has... the shittiest day possible. No hot water in his apartment, work overload from his boss, malfunctions in the lab, everything. At the end of the day, his ship assignment even gets switched up, totally derailing the rest of his year because of the planned transit time. What else could go wrong? Reminds me of an old Taoist parable: quote:There was once a farmer in ancient China who owned a horse. “You are so lucky!” his neighbours told him, “to have a horse to pull the cart for you.” “Maybe,” the farmer replied. Except with xenomorphs instead of horses.
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Darko posted:Didnt the Colonial Marine crew get a few short stories in that book of Aliens short stories that came out where they were going on bughunts against other stuff? I remember Apone was at least in one, I think. I know Hicks and Dietrich show up in one, too. To be honest I haven’t read that book in its entirety yet, it just isn’t very good. The Predator anthology, on the other hand, is real good stuff.
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Xenomrph posted:I don’t think any of the Sulaco marines have too much backstory, off the top of my head. I know Vasquez and Drake enlisted in lieu of prison sentences. What were those?
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Colostomy Bag posted:What were those? What do you mean? Like, their crimes/sentences? I don’t think it’s specified, but I’m pretty sure they enlisted out of juvenile detention.
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There's an official book that says they were both convicted of murder as juveniles. That's if you want to treat a 2014 book written by a different person as "canon" to Aliens.
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Halloween Jack posted:There's an official book that says they were both convicted of murder as juveniles. That's if you want to treat a 2014 book written by a different person as "canon" to Aliens. Like Vasquez killed a Corporate stooge when he tried to enforce WaterRights in her hometown or Drake was framed by WY lawyers because his father was going to try and sue for catching Cancer-7 on one of their assembly lines.
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A backstory in which people rebelling against the system were turned into its murder-drones would certainly be in line with the themes of the film
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Halloween Jack posted:There's an official book that says they were both convicted of murder as juveniles. That's if you want to treat a 2014 book written by a different person as "canon" to Aliens. Wait, do you mean the Weyland Yutani Report? It’s been a while since I read that. The juvenile detention thing dates way back; I can’t quite remember where it originated, but it might actually be backstory stuff from the Kenner toys. Speaking of ancillary books, next year we’re getting a blueprints and technical drawings book by the guy who did these:    He actually did those as an unofficial fan project, and then FOX got wind of them and made them official - and then contracted him to do an entire book of similar drawings, covering all six Alien movies. It’s coming out next year to coincide with the 40th anniversary of ‘Alien’.
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Halloween Jack posted:There's an official book that says they were both convicted of murder as juveniles. That's if you want to treat a 2014 book written by a different person as "canon" to Aliens. From what I saw at his stint at Shawshank, I'd take Drake as a rapist. Maybe rapist and murderer.
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All this talk of the various Colonial Marines reminds of the mega-clusterfuck that was AvP 2010 multiplayer. The maps and skins and stuff were like, honed with laser precision to splinter aparty the multiplayer community as much as possible.
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Neo Rasa posted:All this talk of the various Colonial Marines reminds of the mega-clusterfuck that was AvP 2010 multiplayer. The maps and skins and stuff were like, honed with laser precision to splinter aparty the multiplayer community as much as possible. Even better were the inevitable endless conga-lines of Aliens and Predators sync-killing eachother from behind. AvP2010 is a neat game (with some fantastically brutal sync kills) but I wish the singleplayer campaigns had lined up and crossed over a bit more. The three characters cross some of the same territory, and if you’re paying attention you can map out who is where and how their actions affect the same area when another character passes through, but they’re never in the same place at the same time. In AvP2, at one point all three player characters are in the same room at the same time and it’s pretty neat. AvP2010 is also set a bit later in the timeline than most stuff that happens right around ‘Aliens’, and the turbonerd in me enjoyed that they acknowledged the progression of military tech and even used some of the ship and weapon names from the Technical Manual that were “in development” at the time the Tech Manual is set. AvP2010 had Lance Henriksen, but he wasn’t the only ‘Aliens’ alumni to return to the franchise for spin-off stuff. AvP2010 also had William Hope as the lead scientist in the Alien campaign, and he’s a notable character in ‘Alien Isolation’. He also narrated the recent audiobook version of ‘Aliens’.
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Xenomrph posted:What do you mean? Like, their crimes/sentences? I don’t think it’s specified, but I’m pretty sure they enlisted out of juvenile detention. Yeah, I guess that what I was getting at. Vasquez/Drake were a pair. I just figured there was more out there about them.
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Oooooh I got the David book. I thumbed through it really quick. It’s astounding. Def buy that poo poo.
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CelticPredator posted:Oooooh I got the David book. I thumbed through it really quick. It’s astounding. Def buy that poo poo. It’s organized so there’s a progression to the artwork to reflect David’s deteriorating mental state; it starts with drawings of plants and basic Engineer anatomy stuff, then it goes to weird experiments and Engineer anatomy stuff that David likely couldn’t have acquired without nasty torture and vivisection, and culminates with insane rape/torture fantasies about Shaw.  The accompanying book with the interview with the artists is cool, too. Apparently the Shaw artwork was intentionally drawn to not match Shaw’s actual physical state when Daniels finds her remains - the thinking was that unlike the rest of the art where it’s David drawing what he’s seeing, the Shaw stuff is his imagination of what he’d like to do to her, and he just can’t decide. The artists also said that a scarier interpretation is that David used Engineer tech to continually heal and revive Shaw so that he could torture her over and over, so the artwork is depicting things he actually did. 
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Xenomrph posted:The artists also said that a scarier interpretation is that David used Engineer tech to continually heal and revive Shaw so that he could torture her over and over, so the artwork is depicting things he actually did. drat that's some I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream poo poo
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Jesus I feel genuinely awful for her (yes, I know she's a fictional character, allow me my empathy). It'd be one thing if she finished Prometheus screaming and struggling like the Covenant protagonist, knowing she's in for some really bad poo poo. But the whole ending of Prometheus, the music, the cinematography, everything 'agrees' with Shaw that she's headed off to bravely discover the secrets of creation. At least the Aliens characters got to die in their sleep.
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Did the alien eggs in Covenant come from Shaw? That seems like the most :alien: possible origin for the xenomorphs.
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General Battuta posted:Jesus I feel genuinely awful for her (yes, I know she's a fictional character, allow me my empathy). It'd be one thing if she finished Prometheus screaming and struggling like the Covenant protagonist, knowing she's in for some really bad poo poo. But the whole ending of Prometheus, the music, the cinematography, everything 'agrees' with Shaw that she's headed off to bravely discover the secrets of creation. At least the Aliens characters got to die in their sleep. If it makes you feel any better, David’s artwork of her fate is fairly consistent in never showing her with a pained, anguished, or frightened facial expression, and his drawings also often have a pseudo-religious slant to them. In the interview with the artists, they said they were trying to convey a sort of duality to David’s relationship with Shaw: he literally both loves and hates her, and can’t find a way to really reconcile his feelings. Like yeah his artwork of her is truly bizarre vivisection, but unlike his artwork of some of the Engineers or experiments, you can tell he venerates Shaw and you’re not quite sure if she actually suffered. It isn’t quite the 100% blinding hatred that AM has in ‘I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream’, it’s more nuanced than that.
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General Battuta posted:Did the alien eggs in Covenant come from Shaw? That seems like the most :alien: possible origin for the xenomorphs. It’s kind of implied. But it’s for sure some kind of biological material used to make the eggs.
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Xenomrph posted:If it makes you feel any better, David’s artwork of her fate is fairly consistent in never showing her with a pained, anguished, or frightened facial expression, and his drawings also often have a pseudo-religious slant to them. That sounds like it has a weird, creepy vibe of it's own. Like he lovingly, compassionately vivisects her living body to create new life in a bizarre satire of sex.
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All this sounds like the movie they should have made instead
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banned from Starbucks posted:All this sounds like the movie they should have made instead
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Ersatz posted:Arthouse horroromance. A straight two hours of David performing bizzarre experiments with the woman he loves. Yeah I'm good on not having gotten that. vvv she did, but it's not really any different than Hicks and Newt either. A fine series tradition as it were. Thank goodness they kept Jonesy alive, I would not have accepted off screen cat murder. The Notorious ZSB fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Sep 14, 2018 |
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I always felt that Shaw got chumped on by being killed offscreen.
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Have any of the expanded universe stories ever shown or mentioned what happened to Jonesy after Ripley abandoned him?
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ruddiger posted:Have any of the expanded universe stories ever shown or mentioned what happened to Jonesy after Ripley abandoned him? Not yet, but he is getting his own book (of sorts) next month: Jonesy: Nine Lives on the Nostromo https://www.amazon.com/dp/178565926X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UJXMBbF272TSW  Edit— in honor of the new Predator movie out tomorrow, here’s a whole lot of Predators.    
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The predator comes out tonight if anyone is thinking about seeing it. It's too late for me so I gotta catch it tomorrow.
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Tenzarin posted:The predator comes out tonight if anyone is thinking about seeing it. It's too late for me so I gotta catch it tomorrow. Just finished watching it, and I liked it.
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I saw it and didn’t like it. But to keep it on topic, there was the AvP spear in it, with the alien tail for a quick second.
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What didn't you like about it? I thought it was pretty solid, if goofy in parts.
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Leavemywife posted:What didn't you like about it? I thought it was pretty solid, if goofy in parts. The editing was horrific, and it felt like a bunch of poo poo was missing. The third act is a boring mess and I wish we got what was in the script vs uh...whatever that was. I love Shane Black and Predator movies, and I’m extremely forgiving to these things. But bad editing is the worst and I can’t look away from it. The handkerchief cross fade is legit one of the worst single edits I’ve seen in years.
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I won’t be seeing it until Sunday afternoon. I am a shameful fan.
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Xenomrph posted:In the interview with the artists, they said they were trying to convey a sort of duality to David’s relationship with Shaw: he literally both loves and hates her, and can’t find a way to really reconcile his feelings. The short covered how she patiently (and maybe lovingly) helped to reconnect him to his body. There's an undeniable tenderness there, but I think it's filtered through his view that she would become the origin substance for his creation. I think it's natural to think that he hated humanity because he surpassed them, and Weyland in particular, but would always be subservient to them in some way. But that's kind of boring. Maybe it's some kind of mania taken on by his inability to procreate, or the Frankensteinian lack of a partner. That's probably more in line with Alien themes.
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People often recreate the circumstances of their childhood abuse in a more-or-less controlled environment. It's a major part of Splice--a lot of which is subtly, darkly humorous, but this theme is made clear in a scene that's not at all played for laughs.
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FilthyImp posted:Part of me really wonders what made that happen.
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The best synopsis for Alien (1979): A cat avoids trouble aboard a space ship.
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We still await the film in which the Xenomorphs arrive on Earth to deliver it to its rightful rulers, the cats.
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