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I'll admit to having only a limited knowledge of the shenanigans that take place in GoT on account of the books are so terrible I can hardly stand to read them, but I'd wager they barely hold a candle to the cruelties Jack Vance wreaks upon his hapless characters. I recently started reading Lyonesse: Suldrun's Garden and I just got to the part where a pair of children trick a body-stealing witch into switching bodies with a pig, then sell the pig to a butcher without batting an eyelid and I had to pause and exclaim "Jesus Christ" at how unflinching Jack Vance is at doling out violent misfortune to good and evil characters like. This is of course after the titular Suldrun hangs herself in grief from having her baby stolen from her and her true love cast into a pit and the simple, loving surrogate mother to Suldrun has her tongue split lengthwise as punishment for refusing to give up the location of said child, only to have that location divulged anyway. Also there's a cannibalistic, child-rapist ogre that I could have done without but drat if it wasn't brutal as poo poo. So far there's no so much graphic description of incest as I'm given to understand as takes place in Game of Thrones but I don't particularly mind. What's GoT got to compete with Jack Vance sheer, sick, twisted callous disregard for the life and happiness of his protagonists? I know a one-eyed man died or something and a kid got thrown from a window because he glimpsed the brother and sister having sex but apart from that it seems pretty tame by comparison.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:24 |
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I don't understand the point of this bad thread.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:30 |
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I don't understand the point of this bad thread. To talk about how much better Lyonesse is than GoT. Sorry about your poor reading comphrension.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:31 |
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i just read good literature OP, like anything by ernst cline and redwall.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:32 |
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is this like some kinda book
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:35 |
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Tom Gorman posted:is this like some kinda book Something like that.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:37 |
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daaaaaaaang nice
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:38 |
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I'm glad you like it, but i don't like bad things to happen to characters i am reading about because it makes me sad.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:38 |
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chaosbreather posted:I'm glad you like it, but i don't like bad things to happen to characters i am reading about because it makes me sad. Yeah it makes me sad, too. A lot of times I gotta put the book down and take a breather because it’s so tragic.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:41 |
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I have the trilogy and love it. The second one is good but it helps if you are on something. Vance was definitely a writer of his time. Fuckin' PC crowd would hate his books today.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:49 |
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Dogeh posted:I have the trilogy and love it. TBF fuckin' PC crowd hates everything always forever.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:50 |
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Whens it coming to Showtime?
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:51 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Whens it coming to Showtime? GoT or Lyonnesse?
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:53 |
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Thanks for the brutality, next time could you give us ice cream?
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:56 |
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Dogeh posted:GoT or Lyonnesse? the grimdark medieval one with mediocre writing and gratuitous sexual violence
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:58 |
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what if a book comes out thats more brutal? what then?
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 04:58 |
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Mmm imma go eat some icecream
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:00 |
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cugel is the best and most relatable protagonist in all of fantasy fiction
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:01 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:the grimdark medieval one with mediocre writing and gratuitous sexual violence Soon ...
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:02 |
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free hubcaps posted:cugel is the best and most relatable protagonist in all of fantasy fiction I want to know more
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:09 |
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Dogeh posted:I have the trilogy and love it. You mean like take drugs and read a book??
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:11 |
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Borrowed Ladder posted:You mean like take drugs and read a book?? Yeah. It makes more sense if you do. It was written in the 80s
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:14 |
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so like, it's better because it's ediger and has a jared fogle shrek?
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:14 |
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I don't understand the point of this bad thread.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:18 |
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I dunno OP, one dude in game of the thrones gets his cock n balls chopped off. Not sure you can top that.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:29 |
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I don't understand the point of this bad thread.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:31 |
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Ralph Hurley posted:I dunno OP, one dude in game of the thrones gets his cock n balls chopped off. Not sure you can top that. I thought Frey pie was great.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:34 |
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Applewhite posted:To talk about how much better Lyonesse is than GoT. Sorry about your poor reading comphrension. You're right. That bog standard book series you read is definitely better than the one you haven't read.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:49 |
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504 posted:You're right. That bog standard book series you read is definitely better than the one you haven't read. Lyonesse is not “bog standard” and it’s not “edgy.” It’s brutality doesn’t come from purient wannabe shock value, the brutality comes from the raw, pitiless skill of a master storyteller.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:52 |
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I don't like Fantasy because it sucks and doesn't have the political or sub-textual complexity of Sci-Fi this is probably a bad opinion since I'm biased but I don't really want to bother reading through a fuckton of garbo Fantasy recommendations in order to find something I actually find tolerable.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 05:56 |
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free hubcaps posted:cugel is the best and most relatable protagonist in all of fantasy fiction Croaker was pretty cool before poo poo got way wacky
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JebanyPedal posted:I don't like Fantasy because it sucks and doesn't have the political or sub-textual complexity of Sci-Fi this is probably a bad opinion since I'm biased but I don't really want to bother reading through a fuckton of garbo Fantasy recommendations in order to find something I actually find tolerable. Jack Vance writes Sci Fi, too. You should check out Tales of the Dying Earth or The Demon Princes.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 06:03 |
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Applewhite posted:Jack Vance writes Sci Fi, too. You should check out Tales of the Dying Earth or The Demon Princes. Sounds Unchristian, I'm afraid I cannot.
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 06:05 |
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Applewhite posted:Jack Vance writes Sci Fi, too. You should check out Tales of the Dying Earth or The Demon Princes. And Tschai is good
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 06:14 |
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I’d rather get cholera than cancer, but they’re both still bad. So I’m not reading the books you recommend OP
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 07:14 |
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I've started writing a book series with the most violent and depraved poo poo I could come up with, so bad that it causes permanent psychological damage that will cost thousands in therapy bills to undo. I've consulted with a team of sociopaths, murderers, and politicians to create the most hosed up book series of all time. Just reading three pages will ruin all of your relationships and render you sterile. And you'll have to wait 8 years for a sequel!!! Ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 07:15 |
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I waited six years for A Dance With Dragons, I can do 8 probably
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 07:16 |
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I moved onto the hard stuff, AKA historical fiction. I recommend the Rome series by Colleen McCollough and Stonehenge by Bernard Cornwell Stonehenge for instance is written using Archaeological evidence to paint a picture of the prehistoric societies that turned a wooden Cairn into the majestically manufactured stone site we're enchanted by today
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 07:19 |
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house of the dad posted:I've started writing a book series with the most violent and depraved poo poo I could come up with, so bad that it causes permanent psychological damage that will cost thousands in therapy bills to undo. I've consulted with a team of sociopaths, murderers, and politicians to create the most hosed up book series of all time. Just reading three pages will ruin all of your relationships and render you sterile. And you'll have to wait 8 years for a sequel!!! Ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Excellent literature showcasing the reality of things! Bravo!
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 07:21 |
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Game of Thrones isn’t good because it’s brutal, and in fact it just isn’t good period.
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