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Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
When it comes to chainsaw safety, don't go off half cocked.

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MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Hooooo boy, what the gently caress!

https://twitter.com/MassStatePolice/status/1040380980815687680?s=20

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Did they accidentally melt their own pipes?

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


So is this going to be some kind of infrastructure attack that over-pressured the lines, or just the typical fuckup?

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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I don't mean to be morbid about it, but part of me is willing to bet that a lot of the fires were started by older appliances that still use a pilot light instead of having an igniter. If it was some sort of overpressure I can see the pilot light getting turned into a jet and setting some poo poo on fire.

Always keep poo poo away from your water heater is still something a lot of people haven't learned.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

glynnenstein posted:

So is this going to be some kind of infrastructure attack that over-pressured the lines, or just the typical fuckup?

it's almost certainly the result of decades of neglect of public infrastructure coupled with personal privation in service of the idiocy of private wealth-worship in this backwards hellhole of a country OP

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Found a live stream of the hurricane, at first I thought it was some insane dude sitting in his truck recording his house getting demolished, but he's actually just left the thing running and bounced, wonder how long the feed will keep going.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7UhLrfb_M&ab_channel=WXChasing

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Vanagoon posted:

Always keep poo poo away from your water heater is still something a lot of people haven't learned.

If there's one episode of Mythbusters people need to watch, it's that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bU-I2ZiML0&t=71s

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Gunshow Poophole posted:

it's almost certainly the result of decades of neglect of public infrastructure coupled with personal privation in service of the idiocy of private wealth-worship in this backwards hellhole of a country OP

Don't forget there is currently a walk out going on and the team that is managing the gas services for the area is inexperienced replacements.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Megillah Gorilla posted:

If there's one episode of Mythbusters people need to watch, it's that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bU-I2ZiML0&t=71s

:wrong:

It's the cement truck explosion but holy poo poo the new YouTube app sucks too much to search it up. Content control hooooo

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Zil posted:

Don't forget there is currently a walk out going on and the team that is managing the gas services for the area is inexperienced replacements.

Yup! Union forever

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Well I was thinking more along the lines of a fire hazard but yeah.

Water heater's gonna 'splode when you disable the safeties. Temperature & Pressure valve to the rescue, probably quite literally in some cases.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gunshow Poophole posted:

:wrong:

It's the cement truck explosion but holy poo poo the new YouTube app sucks too much to search it up. Content control hooooo

Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcHUHRf_S0

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
kamikazekamera

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry
I have very strong memories of my college roommate flipping his poo poo out laughing at the noise that clip makes lmao

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
Another fatal nuclear accident, smdh.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

And they talk about dogs chasing cars...

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

It's horrible but lmfao. Imagine being that guy in prison, legend.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017


I feel strongly that we as goons have a responsibility to this man in one way or another

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Classic OSHA violation, with the negligent inclusion of a bloodthirsty predator as part of the roof structure.

https://i.imgur.com/bLF4uAw.mp4

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

So glad we don't use gas here.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

His Divine Shadow posted:

So glad we don't use gas here.

Gas is fine.

Worry more about the complete failure of anywhere in the US to spend a single penny on the maintenance of their infrastructure.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


His Divine Shadow posted:

So glad we don't use gas here.

I'm so glad that isn't our company. Yet.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Memento posted:

Gas is fine.

Worry more about the complete failure of anywhere in the US to spend a single penny on the maintenance of their infrastructure.

im in a place in the US where a bridge failure just means the US mil has that much harder time getting to you :smug:

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Memento posted:

Worry more about the complete failure of anywhere in the US to spend a single penny on the maintenance of their infrastructure.
It's this. They have gas in the netherlands and it's mosdef the best for cooking.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

haha i win, use your MIT tested MIC approved fast-bridging unit :shepface:

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

alligators are chill bros please do not harass them with four wheelers

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Former DILF posted:

im in a place in the US where a bridge failure just means the US mil has that much harder time getting to you :smug:

Black helicopters need no bridges, bro.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

evil_bunnY posted:

It's this. They have gas in the netherlands and it's mosdef the best for cooking.

Taste the meat not the heat

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Memento posted:

Gas is fine.

Worry more about the complete failure of anywhere in the US to spend a single penny on the maintenance of their infrastructure.

Civil Engineers Report Card for US infrastructure.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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On the topic of Gas, specifically heat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56DSH8tKUvo

Technology connections is soooo good and I recommend watching every one of their videos.

Vanagoon fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Sep 14, 2018

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
*proudly sticks RAIL's report card to the refrigerator, tries not to make eye contact with TRANSIT*

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Boy that sure is a lot of Ds.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Memento posted:

Boy that sure is a lot of Ds.

No need to give any extra effort as long as you pass the test.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Vanagoon posted:

On the topic of Gas, specifically heat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56DSH8tKUvo

Technology connections is soooo good and I recommend watching every one of their videos.

This is actually really interesting stuff, although I do question his knowledge on heat pumps. From what I can tell from using the unit at my parents' home, you really only run into a wall with efficiency and heating at really low temperatures, like closer to -30 C. At that point, you won't really get heat out of it anymore. But before that point it's still totally usable, without ever becoming as inefficient as using electric heat only.

That said, he does mention commercial heating units with standard heating elements included. Unless I'm mistaken, the unit my parents have also includes a coil, both for keeping the unit from freezing over, but also to supplement the heating process during extreme cold by raising the temperature of the air coming in. So that definitely helps explain it. That obviously decreases efficiency more, but it apparently allows for the unit to actually run and produce heat in much colder conditions than normal so it's worth it in my book.

Anyway, geothermal heat is some real cool stuff. It's becoming more and more common here and beyond the initial installation costs, it's pretty much the best heat source to use in a newly built home. I think having a heat pump is probably necessary to allow for live adjustment to temperatures - maybe the house feels a bit chilly in winter so you turn up the heat a bit or maybe you wanna cool down in the summer, either way a heat pump does wonders to increase comfort indoors - but geothermal is very much superior to every (realistic) alternative by a large margin otherwise. The only real issue is actually drilling deep enough to get a heat source. I understand that's not possible to do everywhere.

Ruflux fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Sep 14, 2018

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
What would be neat is cogeneration: burn gas to power the refrigeration cycle and use residual heat to supplement it.

Doing that on the neighbourhood level with district heating might come out ahead, though. Electric motors and transmission are really efficient, and economy of scale on combustion engines is powerful. Still, piping hot fluids around is the worst.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Your mom seems to like it.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

As a norwegian/scandinavian that video is just not relatable in the slightest.
Homes get heated up by electric, and wood. Maybe if you're pretty old fashioned you might have an oil-burning stove that runs all the time. With heat-pumps being pretty ubiquitous as well nowadays.

(And then warm-water heating in the larger cities.)

(One of the old fireplaces at home did both oil burning and normal fire, in separate compartments.)

Ruflux posted:

This is actually really interesting stuff, although I do question his knowledge on heat pumps.

It might be that he's basing his heat pump knowledge on the 'standard' ones for milder climates, which drop off a lot in efficiency after -5C. Instead of ones designed for colder winters.

Also, if you've got an ocean nearby, the temperature outside is irrelevant.
My home county ( tiny place, 9000 inhabitants.) has a seawater-based heating system. Where they have a closed-circuit that runs to multiple homes and apartment buildings to collect or drop off heat, then back to the pumping station to balance it out again.
So every home connected to it just has a heatpump that cools during the summer, and heats during the winter, without the need for mounting heat exchangers on the buildings.
The excess heat during the summer, and required heat during winter just gets dumped into / sucked out of the ocean.

It's pretty neat. And is pretty cheap because outside of the heat exchangers and pumps, there's not much to it.

They're even thinking of expanding it to use it for heating up swimming pools and posssibly making a skating rink. Since you can just use the excess heat from cooling the skating rink to heat up the pools.

SubNat fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Sep 14, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Ruflux posted:

Anyway, geothermal heat is some real cool stuff.

Yeah it is awesome. My house used about a quarter the electricity of my bosses fully electric heated place. With solar panels we'll be over 80% self sufficient, and this is with winters that usually go as low as -25°C at it's coldest.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Ruflux posted:

Anyway, geothermal heat is some real cool stuff. It's becoming more and more common here and beyond the initial installation costs, it's pretty much the best heat source to use in a newly built home. I think having a heat pump is probably necessary to allow for live adjustment to temperatures - maybe the house feels a bit chilly in winter so you turn up the heat a bit or maybe you wanna cool down in the summer, either way a heat pump does wonders to increase comfort indoors - but geothermal is very much superior to every (realistic) alternative by a large margin otherwise. The only real issue is actually drilling deep enough to get a heat source. I understand that's not possible to do everywhere.

I consulted for a pilot study on geothermal energy here in Australia in 2013-14 and the end result was the conclusion that there's literally no way it will ever work here. I've been lectured here on "hey why don't we have geothermal power" and "hey why don't we have 100% hydro power" and the answer is that this continent is too old and too cold for geothermal, and hydro needs you to have mountains and rain, and we really have neither.

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