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It reminds me of Johnny English Reloaded, a largely bad sequel to the first Johnny English. Most of it is forgettable or unfunny but there's this one sequence where he's doing an on foot chase of this super fit athletic criminal doing all sorts of parkour. He just calmly walks after him. The criminal jumps off three walls to slip through a narrow window, Johnny just opens the unlocked door and goes on through. The criminal quickly scales a fire escape by treating it like a salmon ladder, Johnny just takes the lift. The criminal gets on a motorcycle and weaves through traffic. Johnny just gets in a police car and turns on the siren and traffic politely pulls over so his pursuit is unobstructed. And when he does actually catch up to him, he does display competence by rather easily defeating the guy in hand to hand combat. It's such a good "Horse vs motorcycle" sequence in an otherwise bad movie.
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I can't believe they're making a third after the awfulness of the second
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Sep 14, 2018 14:29
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As opposed to the comedic brilliance of the first film?
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Sep 14, 2018 14:40
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Its amazing that they managed to take the concept of "Rowan Atkinson as a bumbling spy" and gently caress it up.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:44
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I really loved the first film. They're making a third? The first film is what Get Smart should have been. Of course I'm a weirdo and really love Mr. Beans Holiday. It's a fantastic throwback to silent movies and a wonderful children's film imo.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:45
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Samuel Clemens posted:As opposed to the comedic brilliance of the first film? The best thing about it though is the endless digs at the French, because they have the OSS 117 movies and they're way better than Johnny English.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:47
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I think JE came out before the first OSS. OSS 117 is definitely the best comedic spy series though. I love the old school filmmaking style too with obvious day for night and amazing sets and props that look straight plucked from some 60s B movie.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:57
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Vince MechMahon posted:Also War Zone is a really bad example of a movie being "true to the comics." Regardless of how much you enjoy it, it's a very, very bad adaptation of the source material that's self parody at best. 
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Sep 14, 2018 16:02
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Just a reminder that the 'How Did This Get Made' blog did an episode on Punisher: War Zone and had director Lexi Alexander as a guest and she was very frank about the entire business. She became hot property when a short film she shot got nominated for an Academy awardLexi Alexander posted:And I was sitting there at the Oscars and I always say to people "So, just so you know, while I was sitting at the Oscars I wasn't thinking "I hope I get offered the third remake of Punisher!"" When her agent was pushing the script on her she was hesitant because the only comics she'd ever read at that point were Tintin and Asterix.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uxy9Izj6tc&t=23s
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Sep 14, 2018 16:11
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There's a difference between a cover and am entire movie. There's also a difference between the kind of humor in Ennis run, for example, than what War Zone did. I'm not anti-humor in Punisher. I just don't think War Zone was funny. Even it's decent ideas it executed insanely poorly. The scene in the Lundgren movie where there's a bunch of ninjas all posing with their katanas and he just mows them all down with a machine gun is a better version of the parkour garbage from War Zone, for example.
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Sep 14, 2018 16:14
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Jose Oquendo posted:Believe it or not but The Masters of the Universe movie is the closest thing to it. In terms of story, yes. I'm talking art direction.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Believe it or not but The Masters of the Universe movie is the closest thing to it. IIRC Skeletor's huge throne room/hall/pit thing was one the largest sets ever made at the time so of course they keep it super dark and only use it for like five minutes.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:01
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Neo Rasa posted:IIRC Skeletor's huge throne room/hall/pit thing was one the largest sets ever made at the time so of course they keep it super dark and only use it for like five minutes. Nah they used it a whole lot but the budget ran out before the director could shoot the final fight scene so he snuck back in with Dolph and the fight co=ordinator wearing the Skeletor costume and shot the fight with one camera and a single light source
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Sep 14, 2018 17:09
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Nah they used it a whole lot but the budget ran out before the director could shoot the final fight scene so he snuck back in with Dolph and the fight co=ordinator wearing the Skeletor costume and shot the fight with one camera and a single light source That's kind of badass
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Maxwell Lord posted:In terms of story, yes. I'm talking art direction. Flash Gordon definitely has Kirby-esque design peppered all throughout    
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Sep 14, 2018 17:20
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Flash Gordon definitely has Kirby-esque design peppered all throughout Flash Gordon also benefitted from the failed Jordowosky Dune project. For example, the Mobius samurai-looking Sardukar show up as one of Ming's guard flavors.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Flash Gordon definitely has Kirby-esque design peppered all throughout Flash Gordon owns
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Power of Pecota posted:If nobody else had mentioned The Spirit I was going to, that's pretty much the only thing it accomplished. Benjamin Button feels so much longer ago than 2008. ALFbrot posted:lmao at complaining about comic movies not being true to their source material, and then also complaining that Deadpool sucked rear end Nice.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:37
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drat apparently I have to see Flash Gordon ASAP.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:38
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Basebf555 posted:drat apparently I have to see Flash Gordon ASAP. Great soundtrack.
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Sep 14, 2018 17:52
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RIP Peter Wyngarde.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Great soundtrack. Hell yeah! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4
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Basebf555 posted:drat apparently I have to see Flash Gordon ASAP. I keep thinking the same thing, because I love the art in those pictures and the Queen song. But I just never find myself at a moment where I think: ''Well, it's been a long day, let's watch Flash Gordon!''
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garycoleisgod posted:My favorite thing about Highlander 2 is that in the final fight, Connor changes weapon and wardrobe in-between some shots because the final fight is just two different fights edited together, hoping nobody would notice. Highlander 2 is really, really bad, but it's not even in the top half of Bad Highlander Movies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWkPBt_qgu8 But apparently now they're talking about remaking the first with Dave Bautista as the Kurgan and Javier Bardem as Ramirez? OK....
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Sobatchja Morda posted:I keep thinking the same thing, because I love the art in those pictures and the Queen song. But I just never find myself at a moment where I think: ''Well, it's been a long day, let's watch Flash Gordon!'' If just listening to the theme song doesn't make you want to watch Flash Gordon, something is very wrong with you.
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Basebf555 posted:drat apparently I have to see Flash Gordon ASAP. Flash Gordon is wonderful camp.
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Basebf555 posted:drat apparently I have to see Flash Gordon ASAP. Adapted by the guy Michael Allin (Enter The Dragon), screenplay by Lorenzo Semple Jr. (Batman 60s TV show, Papillon, Never Say Never Again), directed by Mike Hodges (Get Carter), produced by Dino De Laurentiis, featuring Max Von Sydow, Brian Blessed, Timothy Dalton, Topol, Peter Wyngarde, music by Queen, production & costume design by Danilo Donati (Satyricon, Salo or the 120 Days of Sodom, Caligula), cinematography by Gil Taylor (Dr. Strangelove, A Hard Day's Night, Star Wars Ep IV) ....
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Flash Gordon is a treasure. My favorite bit of trivia is that almost all of Sam Jones' (Flash) lines in the film are some other actor's voice that they dubbed in. Apparently there was some drama between Jones and De Laurentiis so he never came back to do ADR once they finished filming.
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I just found out that George Lucas, Federico Fellini, and Sergio Leone were all considered for the director’s chair. Imagine any of those Flash Gordons. Not hard to imagine Lucas’, his rejection led to Star Wars.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I just found out that George Lucas, Federico Fellini, and Sergio Leone were all considered for the director’s chair. Imagine any of those Flash Gordons. Not hard to imagine Lucas’, his rejection led to Star Wars. This is less surprising than you might think, because earlier in the 1970s, Leone had been very actively pursuing the idea of making a feature film version of another King Features character, the Phantom, getting to the point of scouting locations and beginning work on the screenplay before it all fell through. Part of this story is that he was also interested in making a Mandrake the Magician movie and then crossing them over. Was it De Laurentiis who was convinced they were making a grand sci-fi epic for the ages with Flash Gordon and was furious at how campy it turned out?
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Young Freud posted:Flash Gordon also benefitted from the failed Jordowosky Dune project. For example, the Mobius samurai-looking Sardukar show up as one of Ming's guard flavors. Wheat Loaf posted:Was it De Laurentiis who was convinced they were making a grand sci-fi epic for the ages with Flash Gordon and was furious at how campy it turned out? Nah, he was the one pushing to make it camp. He contracted one of the Batman 1966 writers to write the screenplay, after all. Edit: I kept googling and apparently he WAS upset that people laughed at it Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 14, 2018 |
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Predator "must break records to break even", apparently.Snowglobe of Doom posted:Nah, he was the one pushing to make it camp. He contracted one of the Batman 1966 writers to write the screenplay, after all. Hmm. Maybe it was someone else, then. I remember reading that someone was sure they were making the next 2001: A Space Odyssey or something, but I'm not sure who it could have been. Maybe I'm confusing it with another story that either De Laurentiis or the director was iffy on the idea of Queen doing the soundtrack because they "didn't like heavy metal".
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That ain't going to happen
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Wheat Loaf posted:This is less surprising than you might think, because earlier in the 1970s, Leone had been very actively pursuing the idea of making a feature film version of another King Features character, the Phantom, getting to the point of scouting locations and beginning work on the screenplay before it all fell through. Part of this story is that he was also interested in making a Mandrake the Magician movie and then crossing them over. We were so close to a Defenders of the Earth cinematic universe. Would be a laugh if they made a Defenders movie with Star-Lord, Black Panther and Dr Strange.
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Stop giving Scott Mendolson clicks, all of his "articles" are little more than clickbait speculation bullshit. AlternateAccount posted:But apparently now they're talking about remaking the first with Dave Bautista as the Kurgan and Javier Bardem as Ramirez? OK.... I AM SO THERE GIRLFRIEND
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Wheat Loaf posted:Hmm. Maybe it was someone else, then. I remember reading that someone was sure they were making the next 2001: A Space Odyssey or something, but I'm not sure who it could have been. I double checked and the screenwriter Lorenzo Semple, Jr. complained that De Laurentiis forced him to make it a comedy: Lorenzo Semple, Jr. posted:Dino wanted to make Flash Gordon humorous. At the time, I thought that was a possible way to go, but, in hindsight, I realize it was a terrible mistake. We kept fiddling around with the script, trying to decide whether to be funny or realistic. That was a catastrophic thing to do, with so much money involved. I never thought the character of Flash in the script was particularly good. But there was no pressure to make it any better. Dino had a vision of a comic strip character treated in a comic style. That was silly, because Flash Gordon was never intended to be funny. The entire film got way out of control. ... but the actors reported that De Laurentiis was upset that people were laughing at it the wrong way: Melody Anderson posted:The director said, 'I want you and Sam to try to go for a relationship, make this as human as possible. Don't camp it up or go for laughs.' That's why the movie's so funny, because we didn't try to make it campy. In fact, I'm surprised that (people) are laughing, because we weren't out to make a funny film. In fact, De Laurentiis was very upset when he showed the film and people started to laugh, because he thought they were laughing at it and not with it. In fact, he re-did the cheerleading scene. He wanted it to be serious...with macho man out there. Play it very straight, the more you play it straight, the funnier it is. I think that's why Flash and Dale work, because of the way we played it." Sam J. Jones posted:The film's very campy, very adventurous. We played it straight; we couldn't have played it any other way. When the crew watched the rushes and were laughing hysterically, Dino said, 'Why are you laughing?' And then they discovered they had a comedy, that it was camp. I've heard from the screenings that some people couldn't hear the words because of all the applause and laughter... but we did play it seriously. Apparently the British crew thought they were making a comedy and the Italian crew thought they were making a serious drama. So uh ..... both?? 
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Flash Gordon/Thor: Ragnarok is a good double feature as the latter borrows some of the tone and style of the former (including sourcing some of the same Kirby designs)
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Iron Crowned posted:If just listening to the theme song doesn't make you want to watch Flash Gordon, something is very wrong with you. When I was a kid, I was obsessed with my mom's Queen records. I could listen to the Flash themesong all day, together with Princes of the Universe, and wonder what fantastic story it was describing. So imagine my excitement when we received the new TV guide, and I saw Flash was going te be broadcast that week! It was a late night broadcast, but that was okay. I could just set the VCR! The fateful night finally came, and I left for bed wondering how awesome it would be. The next day I return from school, run to the living room and start the tape. It appears I missed out on recording the opening of the film, but that's okay — I can catch up. Okay, so even as a tenyearold, I can see this film is terribly camp. Flash, I guess, must be that protagonist I didn't catch the name of, the one with his spikey blond 90s haircut. He's trapped in a computer which looks like someone glued LED's on a refrigerator. Meanwhile, his girlfriend is attacked while walking down the street by a group of menacig blackhaired vixens on skates. ''Lesbian rollergangs!'' she exclaims, trying to run. The escape is futile. The vixens snarl, closing the distance on their prey. At that point, the tape stopped. I didn't know what it was I saw, but I was left with the sinking feeling that I probably liked the song better. Took a couple of years before I realized I might have set the VCR wrong. At least I got to see Highlander later that year, and it was awesome.
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Today I learned that 'Flash Gordon' and 'Masters of the Universe' are two completely separate films.
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